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LTb1ow

02-19-2011, 09:31 PM

Lets play pick a muffler.

SBC 350, long tube headers, pair of 3 inch cats, then a 3 inch X pipe, and, I need some muffler ideas.

I am looking for mellow idle, and something that will not set off car alarms.
Super turbos, or chambered, have been what I've been looking at.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-638253/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-630230/

From WBT's thread on 3 inch summit ultraflows, I think they will be too loud.
http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47068&highlight=summit

I am open to ideas.

mc73nova

02-19-2011, 09:42 PM

LTb1ow

02-19-2011, 09:43 PM

I have Dyno Max Ultra Flow's on my Nova and for a race car they are quite. I did not lose anything e.t. wise from open headers to the 3" inlet/outlet mufflers. If the Summit Ultra Flow's are Dyno Max without the name, I say DO IT!

Well, quiet as in... able to DD without worry from cops etc? Or quiet as in, not as loud as open headers? :lol:

mc73nova

02-19-2011, 09:49 PM

Well, quiet as in... able to DD without worry from cops etc? Or quiet as in, not as loud as open headers? :lol:

They are quite for a DD. My ex boss liked the sound so much he ditched his Flowmasters and got a set. 500 hp 383 in his Chevelle, he said he actually enjoys driving it now. His is much quieter because he has a full exhaust, I just have 18" pipe off the header into the muffler with a turndown. I would say you could hear them for yourself but they dont come out of hibernation for a few more weeks!

Anti_Rice_Guy

02-19-2011, 10:10 PM

Well, quiet as in... able to DD without worry from cops etc? Or quiet as in, not as loud as open headers? :lol:

His nova was barely louder than the vert

LTb1ow

02-19-2011, 10:12 PM

His nova was barely louder than the vert

This is very good news.... hmn... 8-)

chrisfrom nj

02-20-2011, 10:18 AM

you should get pypes violator mufflers

LS1ow

02-20-2011, 01:24 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-INLET-CARBON-UNIVERSAL-MUFFLER-CIVIC-ACCORD-CRX-RSX-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aa85eb4efQQitemZ32065 2358895QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

...for $60 you just cant go wrong

sweetbmxrider

02-20-2011, 02:05 PM

LTb1ow

02-20-2011, 02:59 PM

No cheesy ricer mufflers, you can put em of your slow LS1 car and use it as an excuse when I beat that car too.

Pypes violators just by their name sound too loud for my wants.

coolmanvette75

02-20-2011, 03:11 PM

No cheesy ricer mufflers, you can put em of your slow LS1 car and use it as an excuse when I beat that car too.

Pypes violators just by their name sound too loud for my wants.
they pypes are quiet at idle and normal driving, but loud when you put your foot in it.

noboundreez2345

02-20-2011, 03:23 PM

hooker worked for me mellow when cruising but with lts and cats has a nice deep rumble no rasp when it screams

sweetbmxrider

02-20-2011, 03:56 PM

I told him hookers or magnaflows and he lulzed. he's a crazy pal!

LTb1ow

02-20-2011, 03:59 PM

Other than them being quite pricey, and while I do not want a very loud car, I certainly don't want a car that sounds and smells like a prius.

So I am hoping that with cats, the summit ultra flows will sound nice. If not, we kick Nick in the shins for bad advice. :lol:

Blackbirdws6

02-20-2011, 04:59 PM

dynomax ultra-flo's would be my choice. You have heard my car with the cutout closed and it makes noise but its pretty tame IMO. I had a magnaflow muffler on the car before and that was really loud. Unless you really get on it, they keep a relatively calm rumble.

LTb1ow

02-20-2011, 05:03 PM

KirkEvil

02-20-2011, 05:39 PM

Only a pal would try to make a quiet true dual system dumped at the axle

LTb1ow

02-20-2011, 05:47 PM

Only a pal would try to make a quiet true dual system dumped at the axle

While true, I would have gone with pal going with cats... for teh lulz.

Blackbirdws6

02-20-2011, 07:29 PM

Ok, you are added to the list of people whose shins get kicked if this thing is too loud... :nod:

That's fine. I will take that chance only because you really don't have much of an option otherwise. Unless you want to put my G8 GT stock muff with all kinds of sound deadening material, the car is still going to rumble.

At least try to angle the pipes a bit away from the ground. It will help slightly with the sound echoing off the ground.

LTb1ow

02-20-2011, 07:43 PM

At this point I have no idea which ones I wanna get. Do not want to gamble on the summit ultraflows and have them be way to loud.

JL8Jeff

02-20-2011, 09:43 PM

LTb1ow

02-20-2011, 09:46 PM

I had the Summit 3" turbo mufflers on my 70 SS396 and you could actually talk to a passenger with the windows down on the highway so they weren't bad at all. I think their mufflers are made by Dynomax, either blanks or blems. I would think the Ultra Flos will flow better though.

Hmn, from the dynomax book at work, with duals, their best superturbo should flow enough to support the engine without loss. But, I do not know if I trust that.

hence the predicament... do not want a muffler that is gonna hold me back but do not want a way to loud setup. :|

BonzoHansen

02-20-2011, 10:49 PM

do not underestimate the dynomax product

Blackbirdws6

02-21-2011, 07:16 AM

There is a reason I have one on the bird and two on the G8.

LTb1ow

02-21-2011, 07:55 AM

There is a reason I have one on the bird and two on the G8.

What's on the fat8l mobile?

Blackbirdws6

02-21-2011, 09:28 AM

What's on the fat8l mobile?

lol. I have dynomax ultra-flo's on F8TAL which has ARH LTs, catted x-pipe, etc. The bird also has an ultra-flo muff.

The video shows me getting on it pretty well but you can tell its quiet when I'm out of the throttle and cruising.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCm5Jp0VorA

LTb1ow

02-21-2011, 10:44 AM

Gah, fine Brian, you win.

:lol:

Blackbirdws6

02-21-2011, 11:05 AM

Gah, fine Brian, you win.

:lol:

No Pal....you win! Can you make me an exhaust setup but with exhaust tips? TA rear bumper needs something going on.

LTb1ow

02-21-2011, 11:07 AM

No Pal....you win! Can you make me an exhaust setup but with exhaust tips? TA rear bumper needs something going on.

Its on my list of things to ask the shop for quotes on. 8-)

Over the axle true duals for the cool factor, one step close to slow show car! :lol:

sweetbmxrider

02-21-2011, 11:18 AM

under the axle is betttttta!

LTb1ow

02-21-2011, 12:06 PM

I will leave that to your debacle that looms over the horizon.

Blackbirdws6

02-21-2011, 12:07 PM

Its on my list of things to ask the shop for quotes on. 8-)

Over the axle true duals for the cool factor, one step close to slow show car! :lol:

Let me know what you are quoted. Buying two should make the price cheaper :)

under the axle is betttttta!

Save that for your monster .040 over engine...OK Pal!

LTb1ow

02-21-2011, 12:11 PM

Let me know what you are quoted. Buying two should make the price cheaper :)

Save that for your monster .040 over engine...OK Pal!

Will do, gonna see how bad the current plan sets me back and then ask him how he feels bout tackling the over axle part.

Ordering mufflers/cats/pipe/misc tonight me thinks.

sweetbmxrider

02-21-2011, 12:12 PM

I have a nice magnaflow catback. I need to cut a few horses out of the equation.

LTb1ow

02-21-2011, 12:21 PM

I have a nice stock V6 catback. I need to cut a few horses out of the equation.

I am sure you do.

sweetbmxrider

02-21-2011, 12:27 PM

Thats Napa actually and its half black/half bare/half rust.

LTb1ow

02-21-2011, 02:53 PM

Trigger pulled, thanks guys!

Brian, Nick... I know where you live...:lol:

Blackbirdws6

02-21-2011, 06:29 PM

Trigger pulled, thanks guys!

Brian, Nick... I know where you live...:lol:

Better take a different car. I will be able to hear you coming :)

It still will make noise but should be a reasonable quiet setup at idle and light throttle. Get over the axle and out the back of the car.

sweetbmxrider

02-21-2011, 06:32 PM

Get some insulation and shove it in your tailpipes

LTb1ow

02-21-2011, 06:33 PM

Better take a different car. I will be able to hear you coming :)

It still will make noise but should be a reasonable quiet setup at idle and light throttle. Get over the axle and out the back of the car.

We shall see on the over the axle, when I called last they were still waiting on the dies for 3 inch mandrel bending. So I will see how much they hate me when I drop my box of parts off and then ask them about the over axle part. Would be really cool though.

Anti_Rice_Guy

02-21-2011, 07:08 PM

Trigger pulled, thanks guys!

Brian, Nick... I know where you live...:lol:

When I see all the deer, bear, squirrels and dogs stampeding down my road I'll be sure to go into hiding

HeadlessNorseman

02-21-2011, 09:12 PM

We shall see on the over the axle, when I called last they were still waiting on the dies for 3 inch mandrel bending. So I will see how much they hate me when I drop my box of parts off and then ask them about the over axle part. Would be really cool though.

your car may still end up being a little louder and snappier than one of those mentioned cause of the head/cam setup. overlap ftl with noise

LTb1ow

02-22-2011, 02:00 PM

your car may still end up being a little louder and snappier than one of those mentioned cause of the head/cam setup. overlap ftl with noise

Well I will come idle in front of your house at 3am in the morning. 8-)

sweetbmxrider

02-22-2011, 03:20 PM

Well I will come idle in front of your house at 3am in the morning. 8-)

Since when is 3am in the morning :-?

LTb1ow

02-22-2011, 04:23 PM

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/3/bertstare.jpg

BonzoHansen

02-22-2011, 06:12 PM

Since when is 3am in the morning :-?

since March 17, 1957

LTb1ow

02-23-2011, 01:10 PM

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad86/lts1ow/IMG_20110223_140149.jpg?t=1298488195

Two day shipping... I <3 summit

WildBillyT

02-23-2011, 01:19 PM

FYI those are not the same as the ones I am running.

Blackbirdws6

02-23-2011, 01:20 PM

They ship quick for sure. I'm a fan.

Not shiny enough but hopefully they will be quiet enough for you. They look similar to the ones on F8TAL but with a center outlet....and they are shiny. When do you drop them off?

LTb1ow

02-23-2011, 01:21 PM

FYI those are not the same as the ones I am running.

Yea, these are turbo variants, not a straight through design like yours.

We shall see how they do come next week

WildBillyT

02-23-2011, 01:27 PM

Yea, these are turbo variants, not a straight through design like yours.

We shall see how they do come next week

I think Jeff H ran those on his L78 car.

LTb1ow

02-23-2011, 01:29 PM

Gah, now I am second guessing myself on these...

WildBillyT

02-23-2011, 01:33 PM

Gah, now I am second guessing myself on these...

Run em. It's not like they are that expensive. I am running the fully weldeds because they were practically free with the pipe kit.

Blackbirdws6

02-23-2011, 01:35 PM

Gah, now I am second guessing myself on these...

Relax and run them.

LTb1ow

02-23-2011, 01:45 PM

Ok thanks guys, I just worry to much.

Blackbirdws6

02-23-2011, 02:31 PM

Ok thanks guys, I just worry to much.

Yes you do but you have a ways to go until you get to my level of worrying.

LTb1ow

02-23-2011, 02:33 PM

Yes you do but you have a ways to go until you get to my level of worrying.

This is true, its one thing to worry about running 11s when you never have.. its another to worry about making an 11 sec car slower... :rofl::rofl:

Blackbirdws6

02-23-2011, 02:39 PM

Sad but true

LTb1ow

02-23-2011, 05:20 PM

Well, because I was bored... one of these hung off teh Y pipe sounds very nice.

coolmanvette75

02-23-2011, 05:59 PM

Well, because I was bored... one of these hung off teh Y pipe sounds very nice.
video or it never happened :nod:

sweetbmxrider

02-23-2011, 07:40 PM

Well, because I was bored... one of these smashed into teh Y pipe sounds like a crushed soda can.

notsureifsalvagable.jpg

Blackbirdws6

02-24-2011, 08:12 AM

Sweet....make me my over the axle true duals already...

LTb1ow

02-24-2011, 09:20 AM

Going in on Saturday, if your doing work I can swing it over your place after I get it back.

Blackbirdws6

02-24-2011, 09:21 AM

Going in on Saturday, if your doing work I can swing it over your place after I get it back.

I will be around the house all day Saturday so just let me know when its all done.

LTb1ow

02-24-2011, 09:29 AM

Of course that is pending the shop A) not burning my car to the ground B) my car burning the shop to the ground.

We shall see

Blackbirdws6

02-24-2011, 09:41 AM

Of course that is pending the shop A) not burning my car to the ground B) my car burning the shop to the ground.

We shall see

You don't have an "interior" so the only thing they can burn is the fuel line.

sweetbmxrider

02-24-2011, 10:02 AM

Of course that is pending the shop A) not burning my car to the ground B) my car burning the shop to the ground.

We shall see

C) something something something opti

Blackbirdws6

02-24-2011, 10:25 AM

Opti's biggest fears

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