Ticket Question - not speeding

[FlyingDutchman]

So yesterday I was headed back to school via rt 80 around 1pm. I was going along pretty much the speed limit (65ish) with like 1 or 2 other cars. NJSP came speeding up on my left and slowed down just ahead of me. I knew he was going to pull me over, I forgot to put my license plate up by accident (show-n-go).

Pulls behind me and I get over ... To avoid ball-busting I quickly ripped my radar off the windshield (above rearview mirror) and the mount and stuck the wire in the headliner out of view and put the radar w/ mount in the center console. Also note my radar never went off between him passing me and me pulling to the side. As far as you could tell no radar was present.

So he asked my what he pulled me over for and I said I don't believe speeding. He said your license plate is missing up front, I said it probably is down and explained nicely what it is and how it works. He asked if it was controlled from inside and I said no. He said nothing more and walked back to his car.

30 mins later he comes back and hands me a written warning for the license plate. Ok, I understand mistakes happen and I screwed up. What I don't understand is:

A) How he knew I had a radar if he couldn't see it (I know he can detect them, but as far as where it was located unless he can see that well from a distance how could he see it on the windshield?)

B) How he can tell me he pulled me over for a missing license plate, and come back with a ticket for 'obstruction of view' without even telling me that ...

NJSP is scum to me as is the state of NJ. Obviously they are dieing for money. There are far more important things to control like actual speeders. I KNOW he profiled me out based on young driver, black Z28 camaro, and girl friend in passenger seat. No question.

Is there anything I can do? Or am I screwed with the $54 fine ...

I asked the cop how much the ticket was and he said $45 ? Maybe he is dyslexic?

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

So yesterday I was headed back to school via rt 80 around 1pm. I was going along pretty much the speed limit (65ish) with like 1 or 2 other cars. NJSP came speeding up on my left and slowed down just ahead of me. I knew he was going to pull me over, I forgot to put my license plate up by accident (show-n-go).

Pulls behind me and I get over ... To avoid ball-busting I quickly ripped my radar off the windshield (above rearview mirror) and the mount and stuck the wire in the headliner out of view and put the radar w/ mount in the center console. Also note my radar never went off between him passing me and me pulling to the side. As far as you could tell no radar was present.

So he asked my what he pulled me over for and I said I don't believe speeding. He said your license plate is missing up front, I said it probably is down and explained nicely what it is and how it works. He asked if it was controlled from inside and I said no. He said nothing more and walked back to his car.

30 mins later he comes back and hands me a written warning for the license plate. Ok, I understand mistakes happen and I screwed up. What I don't understand is:

A) How he knew I had a radar if he couldn't see it (I know he can detect them, but as far as where it was located unless he can see that well from a distance how could he see it on the windshield?)

B) How he can tell me he pulled me over for a missing license plate, and come back with a ticket for 'obstruction of view' without even telling me that ...

NJSP is scum to me as is the state of NJ. Obviously they are dieing for money. There are far more important things to control like actual speeders. I KNOW he profiled me out based on young driver, black Z28 camaro, and girl friend in passenger seat. No question.

Is there anything I can do? Or am I screwed with the $54 fine ...

I asked the cop how much the ticket was and he said $45 ? Maybe he is dyslexic?

You didn't say he mentioned about the radar detector, but I assume after reading your whole post that he claimed you had a radar detector and said it was an obstruction of view?

not sure about part B.

[Mike]

another young arrogant tough guy thinking the police are scum... hurray njfboa

[LTb1ow]

I am confused, you admit you lacked a front plate... which as we all know, is illegal and a ticket able offense in NJ, and you got caught for it.

Issue is?

I pay more than that for parking tickets, stop whining.

[Mike]

I am confused, you admit you lacked a front plate... which as we all know, is illegal and a ticket able offense in NJ, and you got caught for it.

Issue is?

I pay more than that for parking tickets, stop whining.

he got a warning for that, he got a ticket for having a radar detector which is also illegal in nj, he just forgot to mention that in the story of the nazi police

[WildBillyT]

So you broke the law twice, got dinged for one of the two things and he's scum for it?

What is the problem? Oh, and where were you when this happened (near what town)?

Plenty of people get tickets for things other than what they were pulled over for. A great example is the seat belt tickets that people get instead of a speeding ticket.

[Blacdout96]

no point's- no problem.

[BonzoHansen]

Um what? Did you get a warning or a ticket?

I never had an issue with a trooper, ever. Local guys from time to time, but never a trooper. And I tickets in my red civic, never my black trans am.

[LTb1ow]

So you honestly don't think the officer could see you pull off your radar detector? What else could you messing with in that area? Adjusting your rear view mirror..?

I suppose the rules shouldn't apply to you.

[2kblackgtp]

he got a warning for that, he got a ticket for having a radar detector which is also illegal in nj, he just forgot to mention that in the story of the nazi police

Where did you hear they are illegal in Jersey? His Z28 is not a commercial vehicle, and afaik a radar detector is only illegal in a passenger vehicle in DC and in virginia. Care to enlighten me?

To the OP, sucks you got hit with a ticket for obstruction of view, where exactly on your window was it? I keep my radar detector above the rear view to the driver side, where the tint strip is, they cant ticket for obstruction of view if its less than 4 inches below the top of the windshield IIRC. Unfortunately, pulling your radar detector down might be what screwed you if you had it placed along the tint strip.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Um what? Did you get a warning or a ticket?


Warning for front plate, ticket for obstruction of view.

Not everyone's perfect but seems to me like the cop did nothing wrong and in fact cut you a break. I know how frustrating it is to get pulled over for little things when there are far worse problems going on around you, but you were in the wrong.

Mike, I didn't know radar detectors were illegal in NJ....overall or just because it blocked his vision?

[LS1ow]

radars are not illegal in NJ, ive been stopped a few times, and ive had my radar in clear view, one time it was still beeping while i was talking to him. granted depending on the radar placement he can slap you with a obstruction ticket. are obstuction of view tickets the same as no plate? if its cheaper im thinking maybe he cut you a break.

[NastyEllEssWon]

no front plate tickets cost more than obstruction of view. he was doing you a favor. :nod:

[maroman88]

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[Lt1_8U]

another young arrogant tough guy thinking the police are scum... hurray njfboa

:nod:

[FlyingDutchman]

he got a warning for that, he got a ticket for having a radar detector which is also illegal in nj, he just forgot to mention that in the story of the nazi police

New Jersey Radar and Laser Jammer laws
Radar laser detectors and laser jammers are legal to own and operate in passenger vehicles in the state of New Jersey.
Currently the only state that it is illegal to operate a radar detector is Virginia and Washington D.C.
Laser jammers are illegal to operate in the states of: Nebraska, Minnesota, Utah, California, Oklahoma, Virginia, Colorado and Washington DC.
Radar jammers are illegal to own and/or operate in all 50 states per the Federal Communications Commission.
Radar detectors are also illegal in commercial vehicles weighing over 10,000 pounds in all fifty states, per Title 49 Transportation Act.
Radar detectors are also illegal to operate on any military base.

I know you don't like anyone that talks down about the police so I really don't care what you call me or what irrelevant information you post. But FYI they are legal to own and operate under certain conditions as stated above.

Not all cops are bad. I know some great local guys and some of my relatives are a part of the force too. State cops on the other hand have a reputation they never fail to live up to.

I asked a pretty simple question. Can a cop write you a ticket without first telling you what the problem is? Dont tell me Im arrogant, uneducated, whiner, criminal, terrible person etc. That does not answer anything.






Im not refering to a 'well you were speeding so I'll let you off with just a [insert no point ticket] instead'. Thats not the case.

more of

'heres a warning for the license plate I told you about and you acknowledged is missing. Also heres one for a tail light out, bald tires, loud exhaust that you weren't aware about until just now after Im done writing these tickets' sort of thing.

does that make any sense?

[BonzoHansen]

"Can a cop write you a ticket without first telling you what the problem is?" But YES they can They are under no obligation to chit chat about it first.

I just think it’s weak that the guy gives you the cheaper ticket and you call him names. You broke the law with the plate, no question. He does favor, you bad mouth. Nice.

[Mike]

it is ILLEGAL to have things in your windshield... you have a radar detector in your windshield, therefore your radar detector is illegal/

as for the getting a ticket without being told about it... do they search you out before they stick a parking ticket under your wiper?

[jts98z28]

njsp isnt scum neither is any regular pd, there might be a few officers here andthere that are a bit of a tool(which it doesnt seem like this coop was at all) but the majority of them are actually pretty good people, just cause he did his job doesnt make him scum...

[WildBillyT]

"Can a cop write you a ticket without first telling you what the problem is?" But YES they can They are under no obligation to chit chat about it first.

I just think it’s weak that the guy gives you the cheaper ticket and you call him names. You broke the law with the plate, no question. He does favor, you bad mouth. Nice.

A cop can ask for your license, reg, and ins, walk away, walk back with a ticket, and then walk away again without saying anything except "license and registration please".

[FlyingDutchman]

"Can a cop write you a ticket without first telling you what the problem is?" But YES they can They are under no obligation to chit chat about it first.

I just think it’s weak that the guy gives you the cheaper ticket and you call him names. You broke the law with the plate, no question. He does favor, you bad mouth. Nice.


Thank you. I thought it they were required to tell you everything. That's all I wanted to know, I couldn't find anything relevant enough online.

He didn't really do me a favor. He wrote me up for the plate with a warning then put a fine on top. This would be my first time being pulled over too.

And yeah I don't think highly of hypocrites. I have seen more than my share of cops speed (like this guy), run red lights, illegal u-turns etc. They are not above the law or exempt.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

it is ILLEGAL to have things in your windshield... you have a radar detector in your windshield, therefore your radar detector is illegal


That's different.

Ours are mounted just under the inspection sticker which blocks the windshield anyway.

[Knipps]

no front plate tickets cost more than obstruction of view. he was doing you a favor. :nod:

Negative. Both $54

[2kblackgtp]

it is ILLEGAL to have things in your windshield... you have a radar detector in your windshield, therefore your radar detector is illegal/

as for the getting a ticket without being told about it... do they search you out before they stick a parking ticket under your wiper?


Correct me if I'm wrong, isnt that anywhere but the top couple inches of the tint strip(Hence why the tint strip is legal)? Cause otherwise, radar detector, ezpass, gps, police lights,cameras, etc would all be illegal, correct?

[FlyingDutchman]

Correct me if I'm wrong, isnt that anywhere but the top couple inches of the tint strip(Hence why the tint strip is legal)? Cause otherwise, radar detector, ezpass, gps, police lights,cameras, etc would all be illegal, correct?

Exactly as per the law...

39:3-74. Windshields must be unobstructed and equipped with cleaners
Every motor vehicle having a windshield shall be equipped with at least one device in good working order for cleaning rain, snow or other moisture from the windshield so as to provide clear vision for the driver, and all such devices shall be so constructed and installed as to be operated or controlled by the driver.

No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any sign, poster, sticker or other non-transparent material upon the front windshield, wings, deflectors, side shields, corner lights adjoining windshield or front side windows of such vehicle other than a certificate or other article required to be so displayed by statute or by regulations of the commissioner.

No person shall drive any vehicle so constructed, equipped or loaded as to unduly interfere with the driver's vision to the front and to the sides.

[LTb1ow]

So you are proving that what you did was illegal?

I am confused.

[FlyingDutchman]

So you are proving that what you did was illegal?

I am confused.

No that came up b/c someone said it is illegal to have anything on your windshield which technically means ez-pass and other non-transparent objects.

What Im saying is there was no radar visible for the officer to see and say is obstructing my view. I just checked and there is NO way he saw from behind. You can't see through my back tint and the side mirrors reflect at the side of the car, therefore he couldn't see me remove it. From the front you cant see much of anything unless you are within 10 feet or less.

[NastyEllEssWon]

you think he didnt see you motion to rip it out of your window...but he did...the same way they can give you a seatbelt ticket if they see you put it on when they pull you over. pay the man. move along. lock this thread up. :nod:

[FlyingDutchman]

you think he didnt see you motion to rip it out of your window...but he did...the same way they can give you a seatbelt ticket if they see you put it on when they pull you over. pay the man. move along. lock this thread up. :nod:

Obviously its either $54 or get lucky and have it dropped and pay court fees plus gas/time. Whether he saw me or not, I will never know.

[NastyEllEssWon]

if he wanted to be a real ball buster he couldve done what the washington twp cop did to me a year or two back. walk around the car and give you a ticket for every little thing he could find. ended up with 5 tickets, 4 points and almost 600 bucks worth of fines. consider yourself lucky.

[LTb1ow]

if he wanted to be a real ball buster he couldve done what the washington twp cop did to me a year or two back. walk around the car and give you a ticket for every little thing he could find. ended up with 5 tickets, 4 points and almost 600 bucks worth of fines. consider yourself lucky.

Obviously cause you are a hippy, and the police hate hippies.

Science.

[NastyEllEssWon]

i thought it was because im black :moon:

[LTb1ow]

Well that too, odds are he prob singled you out and neglected to give tickets to other more violent offenses, JUST to ruin your sunny day.

[NastyEllEssWon]

yeah i didnt break the law at all. my front license plate cover was just over my original license plate. my tires werent bald, just well worn. i just got the car so obviously i didnt know i needed inspection and my exhaust wasnt just loud, i was goind through a tunnel. thats it :nod:

[LTb1ow]

Its the system man, they just wanna make a ton of money to pay for their privileged lives of over indulgence they live.

[WildBillyT]

i thought it was because im black :moon:

No. He recognized you as the Tootsie Troll and acted accordingly. LOL.

[BonzoHansen]

No. He recognized you as the Tootsie Troll and acted accordingly. LOL.

he should have beaten your lilly white ass. twice.

[NastyEllEssWon]

he should have beaten your lilly white ass. twice.



this was washington twp. its the hamilton cops that kick my ass when i get pulled over....and im not even joking about that. :-x

[sweetbmxrider]

As stated, you can get a ticket without any officer interaction. Usually the officer asks in case you have a legit reason worth breaking the law or to find probable cause for other violations/crimes.

Put the radar in the headliner or on a visor.

[MyFirstZ]

i would just pay the fine.

dont bother going to court. . . . going to waste hours of your time and still might have to pay close to 50$ in court fees.

I did that once saved 6$ from the ticket by paying the court fee but wasted close to 3 hours at the court house.

Im sure he didnt jsut assume or make up that you had a radar detector, he must have seen it somehow someway. I have been pulled over alot and never have been accused of something that wasnt true.

[greenformula92]

i purposely hang stuff in my windshield so when the cops sees that i have a CDL and a squeeky clean record he has an easy out for a non moving violation

[MyFirstZ]

That's actually sounds like a good idea to me ^^^

[79T/A]

What Im saying is there was no radar visible for the officer to see and say is obstructing my view. I just checked and there is NO way he saw from behind. You can't see through my back tint and the side mirrors reflect at the side of the car, therefore he couldn't see me remove it. From the front you cant see much of anything unless you are within 10 feet or less.

How do you know they didn't spot your radar detector and lack of front plate BEFORE they "roared up behind you?" Could've been facing oncoming traffic, seen your approach before your valiant attempt to remove the radar detector before being pulled over. Chances are, the Trooper decided to give the ticket based on seeing the radar detector first and knowing that it had been there, didn't appreciate your ruse, sir.

Obviously cause you are a hippy, and the police hate hippies.

Science.

^ Favorite post EVER.

Its the system man, they just wanna make a ton of money to pay for their privileged lives of over indulgence they live.

^ SECOND favorite post EVER.

[Scrat's_Camaro]

He didn't really do me a favor. He wrote me up for the plate with a warning then put a fine on top. This would be my first time being pulled over too.



he did do you a favor cause he could have given you fines for both instead of just the one. Also if you ever get pulled over again, dont make any quick movements in your car cause all its gonna do is raise any suspicion the cop may have and he will think your hiding stuff or worse reaching for a weapon. Also with the radar, he may have seen it when he was along side of you before he decided to pull you over

[NastyEllEssWon]

NJSP came speeding up on my left and slowed down just ahead of me. I knew he was going to pull me over, I forgot to put my license plate up by accident (show-n-go).





forgot to quote this. when he was next to you, he couldve seen the radar detector in the windshield :nod:

[BurninrubberGT]

NJSP is scum to me as is the state of NJ. Obviously they are dieing for money. There are far more important things to control like actual speeders. I KNOW he profiled me out based on young driver, black Z28 camaro, and girl friend in passenger seat. No question.

Is there anything I can do? Or am I screwed with the $54 fine ...

I asked the cop how much the ticket was and he said $45 ? Maybe he is dyslexic?

he gave you the ticket, because he saw it in the window when he passed you.
I love when people call the NJSP scum, lets see how well you would do without them.

the cop gave you a break, get over it. You dont like the law blame our legislature, not the NJSP WHOSE JOB is to enforce the laws

[BrandonDrecksage]

profiling you? i drove a black 01 ss for 3 years up and down 80 6 days a week and got pulled over once for a 81 in a 50. this was when i was 19 to 22...drop the attitude next time you get pulled over and dont do **** like remove you radar detector after you see him get behind you. he probably thought that you thought he was stupid.

[BullittSVT]

he did do you a favor cause he could have given you fines for both instead of just the one. Also if you ever get pulled over again, dont make any quick movements in your car cause all its gonna do is raise any suspicion the cop may have and he will think your hiding stuff or worse reaching for a weapon. Also with the radar, he may have seen it when he was along side of you before he decided to pull you over

Damn true, I got pulled over and I was getting stuff out of my console like my phone, and had my license and registration in the glove box. Cop came up to me and asked why I was moving around. He went back to my car, friend in the passenger seat had a panic attack.. didn't help.

Got the car searched, I was searched.. and back up called in. Ah... fun stuff. :)

[madness410]

And yeah I don't think highly of hypocrites. I have seen more than my share of cops speed (like this guy), run red lights, illegal u-turns etc. They are not above the law or exempt.

how do you know in those situations they werent on a way to a call

Obviously its either $54 or get lucky and have it dropped and pay court fees plus gas/time. Whether he saw me or not, I will never know.

if you go to court the judge is going to ask...well was there anything obstructing your view in your windshield? the second you say yes the argument is over and you wasted more time and money in court fees had you just paid the ticket.

i personally know a cheif in the town over and he said if he wanted to he can hand tickets out for everyone that has one of those tree air fresheners hanging from their rear view mirror. the law is the law man...they do their jobs and enforce them.

the trooper gave you a break giving you a ticket for obstructing view and not front plate..he saved you 10 bucks...and you are planning to fight it? from the cops i know they dont like to give many breaks anymore because of people like you. i hate to sound direct or arrogant but its the truth. the second they give you a break is the second you think you have a one up on them and somehow you secretly won, when honestly it could have been worse, in this case 10 dollars worse. out of curiosity how old are you

[greenformula92]

look at it this way, anything that costs less than $100 and is not a moving violation its a break

[1986IROCZ28]

just found this
Are Radar Detectors Illegal? Radar Detector Laws by State

One of the most common questions is about the legality of using a radar detector. "Are radar detectors legal?" "Where are radar detectors illegal?" Current laws about radar detectors are rather simple:

Radar detectors are currently illegal in the following states/districts/areas or use with certain vehicles:

Virginia (VA)
Washington DC (DC)
Military Bases
Radar detectors are illegal to use at the federal level (in all states) and in commercial vehicles over 10,000 lbs.

Here is a list of the states where it is 100% legal to possess and operate a radar detector:

ALABAMA (AL) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
ALASKA (AK) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
ARIZONA (AZ) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
ARKANSAS (AR) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
CALIFORNIA (CA) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
COLORADO (CO) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
CONNECTICUT (CT) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
DELAWARE (DE) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
FLORIDA (FL) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
GEORGIA (GA) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
HAWAII (HI) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
IDAHO (ID) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
ILLINOIS (IL) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
INDIANA (IN) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
IOWA (IA) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
KANSAS ( KS) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
KENTUCKY (KY) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
LOUISIANA (LA) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
MAINE (ME) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
MARYLAND (MD) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
MASSACHUSETTS (MA) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
MICHIGAN (MI) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
MINNESOTA (MN) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
MISSISSIPPI (MS) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
MISSOURI (MO) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
MONTANA (MT) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
NEBRASKA (NE) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
NEVADA (NV) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
NEW HAMPSHIRE (NH) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
NEW JERSEY (NJ) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
NEW MEXICO (NM) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
NEW YORK (NY) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
NORTH CAROLINA (NC) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
NORTH DAKOTA (ND) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
OHIO (OH) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
OKLAHOMA (OK) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
OREGON (OR) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
PENNSYLVANIA (PA) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
RHODE ISLAND (RI) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
SOUTH CAROLINA (SC) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
SOUTH DAKOTA (SD) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
TENNESSEE (TN) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
TEXAS (TX) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
UTAH (UT) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
VERMONT (VT) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
WASHINGTON (WA) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
WEST VIRGINIA (WV) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
WISCONSIN (WI) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.
WYOMING (WY) - Legal to own and use a radar detector.

[spina74]

For those mentioning ezpass yes it is illegal to be on your windshield. By law all you are allowed to have on your windshield is an inspection sticker and rear-view mirror.

[BonzoHansen]

I thought it was a line of sight deal. As in if you have ez-pass behind your r/v mirror or otherwise out of your line of sight it is ok. kind of along the tinted area at the top of the windshield. Or when there were inspections there were guidelines on windshield damage based both on size and location of damage. IIRC up to a 1” crack/chip was allowed but it could not be in the line of sight – as in it had to near an edge.

edit:

From http://www.ezpassnj.com/static/faq/tag.shtml#how

How do I install my tag?

Properly installing the interior E-ZPass tag in your vehicle is easy and essential.

1. Clean and dry the inside of your windshield around the rear view mirror.
2. Without removing the mounting strips from the tag, remove the tape backing from the mounting strips.
3. Turn the tag label right side up facing you. Adhere the tag inside your car to the upper center portion of your windshield, behind the rear view mirror at least one inch to the right of the center support of the mirror and at least one inch below the top edge of the windshield, or below the tinted section of the glass.

[j0n]

Man I love the profiling crap. I've driven a loud as **** C5 for the last 3 years(currently 23) that has NEVER had a front plate, and have been pulled over once.... for speeding. As already stated he gave you a break, and if you had left the detector and not acted like an ass, you likely would have gotten 2 warnings and no tickets. Stop being a whiney brat.

[SRGN]

If you were in the trooper's shoes, would you feel comfortable walking up to a car where you just saw the driver make a sudden motion inside the vehicle and put his hand(s) down near the console(which happens to be where a lot of people unlawfully keep their firearms)? You said the officer passed you on the left initially, so he would have had a clear line of sight to see the detector in the windshield. He saw you make a sudden motion, which he only knew after he walked up to the car was to move the radar detector. Having it in the windshield basically tells a LEO that you have intent to speed, why would you need it if you were a law abiding citizen who doesn't exceed the posted limit? You both know why it's there. When you moved it, it showed the officer that you knew it didn't look good to have it there. If you pulled over, shut the car off, and left your hands in plain view with no sudden motion he would have been more at ease walking up to the car and probably would have given you a verbal warning.

[Masonite]

NJSP is scum to me as is the state of NJ. Obviously they are dieing for money. There are far more important things to control like actual speeders. I KNOW he profiled me out based on young driver, black Z28 camaro, and girl friend in passenger seat. No question.


That's pretty arrogant and ironic. You claim the officer profiled you, but it seems to me that you're the one who was profiling the officer. Since he's "scum", he's obviously going to come after you and only you, because you're a young driver in a Camaro, right?

I can understand if you're just ticked and venting about getting a ticket, but you were wrong on two counts by law (and one count morally) and let off easy.

[edpontiac91]

I have put this up a few times before, but if you want a REALLY out of sight radar detector than buy an ESCORT SOLO, which uses 2 AA batteries, and then use the clip to slide it on the back of your passenger side sun visor. NO CORD and not hardly seen. Get them used on eBay for about $100.00. DONE!