Goodbye jeff carter!

[band77one]

take your giant contract, horrible play and dont let the door hit you on the way out. Enjoy Colombus!

[Frosty]

We're getting a decent player in Voracek too, this was strictly a money move. Rumor has it Versteeg is being shopped, maybe to Florida. Bryzgolov will be signed, maybe they can resign Leino. Either why the Flyers are making sure what happened this season doesn't happen again.

[Slow-V6]

We're getting a decent player in Voracek too, this was strictly a money move. Rumor has it Versteeg is being shopped, maybe to Florida. Bryzgolov will be signed, maybe they can resign Leino. Either why the Flyers are making sure what happened this season doesn't happen again.

Hopefully this will work out.. Still dont really have any faith in the Flyers.

[band77one]

apparently richards is gone to LA for simmonds, Schenn and a 2nd round pick

[band77one]

trading carter i doubt was a striclty money move, he got a huge contract and turned into a lazy sack of excriment. richards did sort of the same thing, but richards had streaks of games where he was there, and then longer streaks of games where he seemed totally invisible. idk this might be what the team needs.

[Blacdout96]

This is exactly why I don't buy player specific jersey's lol. What a bunch of player shifting, but my main concern is goalie and goalie only trading. the year we lost the cup, I felt we relied too much on our goalie's, this year we stepped it up and they were the ones failing, especially at the end of the year, I knew it would trail into the playoffs....

[Slow-V6]

So they traded Richards as well?? So no Carter and Richards are both gone. I dont know about that one.. I am no hockey expert but I guess getting more Draft picks and shedding salary was the main reason?

[Frosty]

Richie gone, horrible trade but rumor has it that him and Lavvy didn't get along. I like the Carter trade, not the Richie trade.

TSN is saying Bryzgolov is getting 9yrs/51 million, yes I said NINE years.

[Blacdout96]

Hm, how come I have this Chris Gratton feeling about that one....

[Slow-V6]

9 Yrs!!!! They just give up on the Bob being there future goalie??

[band77one]

they didnt give up on bob but he cant be thrust into the nhl full time with boucher as a backup, he'll become like niittymaki and checkmanek. bryzgalov is a good goaltender and will be able to help bobs especially since with them there is no language barrier. After lookin up the players we aquired for the players we lost, i think we got the better end of both deals, we got good picks, good players, and i think the offense is gonna tear up some of these teams this season. im officially stoked for flyers hockey right now. i just hope we get rid of carcillo and fartnell

[Frosty]

Schenn is unproven. He has upside but so did Juri Dopita, Chris Gratton and Alexander Daigle, just saying. Simmonds is GARBAGE.

I like Voracek...I don't mind the Carter trade. I HATE the Richards trade. This was such a horrible move.

Bob is as good as gone, you don't take your "goalie of the future" and tell him to step aside while you sign another goalie to a 9 year deal, he's gone. He'll be trade bait this upcoming year, there's no reason to keep him. You can't expect him to sit around for 5+yrs.

The only big upside is the cap room to sign other players...but we'll see...as of right now, today, 6/23/2011 they're NOT a better team after these trades.

[band77one]

how do you say bob is as good as gone? boucher is done, bob will back up bryzgalov for what a season? maybe 2? then you'll see the transition of bob making starter, bringing in a backup cause bryzgalov wont wanna be a back up. it was smart getting bryzgalov because he knows what its like to be back up goalie, he backed up anaheim + JS giguere to the cup. plus hes russian and will finally be able to really communicate to bobs

[Frosty]

You don't sign a goalie to a 9yr/51 million dollar contract to make him the backup or trade him in 2yrs...Bob makes 1.75 million next year, a lot for a back up. He's done, mark my words.

[WayFast84]

All I'm going to say is I hope Bryz isn't the next Dipietro....

[Slow-V6]

You don't sign a goalie to a 9yr/51 million dollar contract to make him the backup or trade him in 2yrs...Bob makes 1.75 million next year, a lot for a back up. He's done, mark my words.

Thats what I was thinking.. Giving up on a Goalie after his 1st season.. If they signed this new goalie to a 3yr deal then that would make better sense. Bob could learn and in a couple years hopefully be ready to take the job if not you could resign the other goalie..

[Frosty]

All I'm going to say is I hope Bryz isn't the next Dipietro....

I don't think he will. I mean it's certainly possible but Bryz is better than good 'ol Rick in every possible way lol.

Bryz is a stud in the regular season, unfortunately he's had less than stellar playoff performances which REALLY worries me. The Flyers needed a goalie, that was obvious but the broke up two major pieces of their core to do it...it's shocking. It frees up a ton of cap space so we'll see what happens come July 1st.

[Slow-V6]

I don't think he will. I mean it's certainly possible but Bryz is better than good 'ol Rick in every possible way lol.

Bryz is a stud in the regular season, unfortunately he's had less than stellar playoff performances which REALLY worries me. The Flyers needed a goalie, that was obvious but the broke up two major pieces of their core to do it...it's shocking. It frees up a ton of cap space so we'll see what happens come July 1st.

So kinda like Jeff Carter.. Has a great regular season then doesnt really do much in playoffs!!

[Frosty]

Pretty much lol

[WayFast84]

I don't think bryz is that good of. Goalie but I also think Thomas is just really lucky and have been ripped for saying Luongo was flakey.. I think dipietro is better then all of them and has a dark cloud over his head....

[Frosty]

I hope you're kidding. DiPietro isn't that good, obviously he's on a garbage team/organization but he's not that solid. I mean I like him for the face we both goalie the same way(well, when I could still play lol), both wear the catching glove on the right hand.

But overall, eh...he's average.

[JL8Jeff]

No matter who the Flyers put in goal seems to fall apart or turn into a headcase. But they needed to change something in the lineup.

[Blacdout96]

We were passing well, I'm glad to see that, instead of dumping and chasing. To me that tells me we had the ingrediants going right with the team, we just need to get the right amount of each ingrediant. A goalie is what we needed most, and I;m sorry, but the Richards trade is redunckulously stupid to of pulled. Sometimes you don't need an all- star out there for a captain, you just need one that can communicate.

I still don't understand how the Flyers bottom fell out at the end there, I can only speculate they were burned out from pushing to the top in the beginnning and middle of the season.

[Slow-V6]

Any word on who the Flyers are looking at with there 8th overall pick??

[Frosty]

Any word on who the Flyers are looking at with there 8th overall pick??

No real word yet, even though they wanted a 1st round pick I wouldn't be surprised if they packaged that up with someone/something else for another Dman.

[JL8Jeff]

We were passing well, I'm glad to see that, instead of dumping and chasing. To me that tells me we had the ingrediants going right with the team, we just need to get the right amount of each ingrediant. A goalie is what we needed most, and I;m sorry, but the Richards trade is redunckulously stupid to of pulled. Sometimes you don't need an all- star out there for a captain, you just need one that can communicate.

I still don't understand how the Flyers bottom fell out at the end there, I can only speculate they were burned out from pushing to the top in the beginnning and middle of the season.

I actually thought they were trying to pass too much and nobody wanted to take the shot. And all season long they were barely winning games by 1 goal which I knew wasn't going to cut it in the playoffs. But I thought I heard they were doing double practices and it looked like that killed their momentum during the season and they never recovered.

[Blacdout96]

They didn't want to take a shot when they were on a power play and instead decided to play hot potatoe, THAT did burn me to the point where my wife would have to leave the living room from me verbally abusing the tv :lol:

they could get up to the net, but then decide to try a trick play that 90% didn't work, just shoot the ****ing thing, at least if you pressure the goalie and look for the rebound you have a better chance.

[band77one]

ilya wanted a long term deal. so we gave him one to get him signed. im sorry are you guys forgetting that mike richards was 3 years into what a 12 year deal? and carter just finished up his first year in an 11 year deal? long term deals dont mean **** in this league and they just showed it, twice. you need a goaltender to come in, help bobs, communicate with him, we didn't have that in any capacity whatsoever. and jeff carter has been dead weight for 2 1/2 seasons so good riddance, enjoy ohio. The richards deal irked me, its still irking me because all they had to do was take away his captaincy and i would bet my car you'd get the player from 05-07 back in a heartbeat.

[Slow-V6]

ilya wanted a long term deal. so we gave him one to get him signed. im sorry are you guys forgetting that mike richards was 3 years into what a 12 year deal? and carter just finished up his first year in an 11 year deal? long term deals dont mean **** in this league and they just showed it, twice. you need a goaltender to come in, help bobs, communicate with him, we didn't have that in any capacity whatsoever. and jeff carter has been dead weight for 2 1/2 seasons so good riddance, enjoy ohio. The richards deal irked me, its still irking me because all they had to do was take away his captaincy and i would bet my car you'd get the player from 05-07 back in a heartbeat.

I hope your right.. To be 2 wins away from a Stanley cup 2 years ago and to say we are a Goal tender away from winning the cup then trade our cornerstone in Carter and Richards who have provided the most points, goals, SH goals on the team makes me a little uneasy. This goalie we picked up is not proven in the playoffs.

You are also forgetting that both of those players are in the early-mid 20's.. Makes sense for a team to pick up the remaining 10 yrs on a player that is only 23-24yrs old then to pick up the remaining 6 yrs on a player that is 35yrs old..

[Blacdout96]

Makes sense for a team to pick up the remaining 10 yrs on a player that is only 23-24yrs old then to pick up the remaining 6 yrs on a player that is 35yrs old..

:cough: Chechmanek :cough cough:

[Slow-V6]

:cough: Chechmanek :cough cough:

What happend with that?? I wasnt around for those years as I was stationed pretty much in the Persian Gulf from 00-04. The only thing I saw Flyers wise was from ESPN..

[Frosty]

I hope your right.. To be 2 wins away from a Stanley cup 2 years ago and to say we are a Goal tender away from winning the cup then trade our cornerstone in Carter and Richards who have provided the most points, goals, SH goals on the team makes me a little uneasy. This goalie we picked up is not proven in the playoffs.

You are also forgetting that both of those players are in the early-mid 20's.. Makes sense for a team to pick up the remaining 10 yrs on a player that is only 23-24yrs old then to pick up the remaining 6 yrs on a player that is 35yrs old..

Jesus Christ, it's gonna snow since we agree on something hockey related.

I hope this all proves me wrong, right now, today the Flyers are not a better team on paper. I'm completely disgusted at this point.

[band77one]

how they look on paper doesnt matter, they never live up to the paper expectations. well, they havent won a cup in over 30 years so in that whole time they havent lived up to expectations!

[Frosty]

Thanks for proving my point. ;)

They're a worse team now then they were 3 days ago.

Now, if they make some big signings when free agency starts next Friday then I'll change my tune...but right now they're worse off then they were.

[band77one]

clarke thinks the team is better after the moves, and i took this right from the NHL.com site because of the goaltender line he said. "I think that both (Claude) Giroux and (James van Riemsdyk) really came through last year and will be expected to pick up what we lost in Carter and Richards," Clarke admitted. "The face of the club changed so the whole team will be different. Our goaltending will be different with the two Russians." if they keep bobs, i mean ya never know, i promise i wont come back saying told ya so =D . and the kid they took in the draft, hes a monster. he's gonna be one hell of a player

[Frosty]

You really care about what Clarke says? This is the guy that said we DON'T need a stud goalie to win a cup. Do you think he's going to come out and say I don't agree with what Mr. Snider wants to do? C'mon lol ;)

[band77one]

well clarke saying they dont need a stud goalie everyone knows was bs, you really think upper management is gonna come out and say our goalies arent stud goalies ? that'd be career suicide lol. not to mention piss off whoever at the time the goalies are. its their job to back the team even if they know the team sucks, (islanders/panthers haha)