njfboa offroad trip??

[transmaro93]

who would be down for a day trip to one of the 4x4 parks in jersey. i know some of you have trucks and go wheeling. Got my truck just about ready to go so who would be down for some fun. Also if anyone has any tips of crap i should get before i got out that would help.. tow straps etc..

[BigAls87Z28]

Already looking to break stuff eh?

Still have that Saturn for sale?

[LTb1ow]

Le sigh.

[Blackbirdws6]

Is Taylor bringing the camaro? Sounds like fun but Gina wouldn't like me off roading her SUV.

[sweetbmxrider]

Shotty! I'll bring a camera too!

You got a jack and tools to change a tire?

[transmaro93]

toos not a problem... jack... illhave to figure somthing out... deff bring camera when we do go. thanks Al for the good wishes btw... lifes about having fun isnt it. Thats all im tryen to do brotha at least within my means

[sweetbmxrider]

He mad cause he drives a malibu and sees his car sinking closer to china every day. Better wind back teh celebrations pal....

[Blackbirdws6]

toos not a problem... jack... illhave to figure somthing out... deff bring camera when we do go. thanks Al for the good wishes btw... lifes about having fun isnt it. Thats all im tryen to do brotha at least within my means

Sounds like fun but if you don't mind, I'd love to tag along. I come with cherries...

[Wolfblitz]

Id be down for an offroading trip. Would be nice to wheel with some new people lol

[transmaro93]

right on man... like i said im a newb so bear with me... what kind of rig you got? dude adam you had me rolling with rolling back the celebrations...

[BigAls87Z28]

Efff uuu buddy. I have a big off roading jack that I was gunna let you have, but now you're on your own!

[transmaro93]

lol!!! hey that was adams comment...i just laughed at it

[crazyblazer87]

when we going i am looking to take my ford out in the woods

[Ls1dreamin02]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4110/5028854404_e4ae42ef29_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48775566@N08/5028854404/)
^^^
Can i bring my 4x4 lifted Z28. Came stock from chevy like this...guess they figured alot of people would off road them so they let them sit super high like this...you should see me flex this thing out haha

[79T/A]

If theres a LEGAL off road park in NJ other than the Pine Barrens, someone please fill me in. Closest for legal hill climbs, rocks and trailriding I know of is Rausch Creek in Joliet, PA.

[Tru2Chevy]

I'd be down for a trip to Collier's Mills or Wharton some time. Not sure if there is anything closer to you.

If theres a LEGAL off road park in NJ other than the Pine Barrens, someone please fill me in. Closest for legal hill climbs, rocks and trailriding I know of is Rausch Creek in Joliet, PA.

No, there aren't any actual off road parks. But, as I'm sure you know, any roads in NJ state parks are legal. Nothing hardcore, but fun to get out in the woods, splash a little mud on the Jeep, and have fun with some friends. I want to get out to Rausch Creek sometime, haven't had a chance or a worthy Jeep yet.

Last I knew there was a guy with a bunch of land in Wantage that was looking into opening an off road park, but I haven't heard any info on it in months. There was a thread on Jeepforum about it, but I think it has died off. There is also a bunch of work going on a park in the Hazleton, PA area.

- Justin

[crazyblazer87]

soooo................ when we going?

[transmaro93]

soon i gues where are those two located justin.. you said one was near atco area? and when is everyone free to go. i use my truck daily so im not looking to do any crazy rock climbing or nothing just wanna get out int he trails... have some fun..

[Tru2Chevy]

Nothing here in NJ that's crazy and legal unless you know someone with private land that will let you tear it up.

Collier's Mills: 40.067062,-74.449562

Atsion Ranger Station @ Wharton: 39.742393,-74.725636

- Justin

[sweetbmxrider]

Down in bayville there is a legal area. I am not sure where it is, went with someone.

[transmaro93]

lets go!! can you find out where?

[sweetbmxrider]

Nah, just drive around its not far from you. When you see random trails off of the road, drive in!

[wrong generation]

Down in bayville there is a legal area. I am not sure where it is, went with someone.

i'm not exactly sure that wobm's pit is legal. although that doesnt stop any of us. and its not hard to find. its kinda out in the open

[sweetbmxrider]

Nah, there is some offroad park area. Its patrolled by park rangers. Its more towards atco, nothing crazy.

[79T/A]

Last I knew there was a guy with a bunch of land in Wantage that was looking into opening an off road park, but I haven't heard any info on it in months. There was a thread on Jeepforum about it, but I think it has died off. There is also a bunch of work going on a park in the Hazleton, PA area.

Considering that I live in Wantage, I should find see what's going on with this one...

I think the park you're referring to near Hazleton is in Northumberland County (Shamokin area). A handful of dedicated locals has been working on developing 6,000 acres of county land into a park that can be used not just by 4x4s, but also dirt bikes, quads, mountain bikers, hikers and other outdoor lovers. I had the opportunity to check it out this past April; the organizers invited our club out for the day to tour the property. I think we barely covered 2/3 of it. There are only main access trails at this point, but the land has the potential to be the next Paragon. There was one crazy rocky hill climb that a few members broke parts on. There's a lot of work to do, though. The property is abandoned coal mining land, and the locals have been using it as their county dump forever. We passed acres of discarded tires, appliances, garbage...even a car or two. At one point, we heard gun shots...and they were getting closer...and then stopped. We ended up driving right through an area where some locals were doing some skeet shooting. Thankfully, they stopped as we approached, but it was unsettling to look down and see pieces of orange clay pigeons all over the place. The area is also dirt poor and in the middle of nowhere, but the organizers are hoping that the park users will bring in business. AFAIK, the project was just recently approved, so development has begun. Looking forward to seeing how it goes!

[transmaro93]

thats pretty sweet... scary though if people are fireing guns blindly into the woods... you wanna take a ride to bayville adam one of these days see what its about? on a side note you jeep guys know any decent lockers at a fair price... i tried to concour a loose dirt pile we have ouside my work and one rear tire spun and one front spun... so i need lockers... bad... pretty sure the front axle is a dana 30 and a dana 44 in the rear... seeing as a set of detroil lockers are gonna run probably $1K+... i was seeing if there was any other affordable options... not set on lockers i just know lockers are the best for offroading... id consider other options though.. justin you have open rears in your trail rig?\

[Tru2Chevy]

Yea, my '96 is regeared, but still open front and rear. Unless I come across a pile of cash before the time comes I am planning on upgrading my rear 8.25 from 27 to 29 spline and running one of the powertrax lockers. Take a picture of your rear dif and post it up - would be nice if the previous owner swapped a D44 in, but they only came stock on some 87-89s with the tow package. Far more common are the D35 and ChryCo 8.25.

Considering that I live in Wantage, I should find see what's going on with this one...

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f360/new-off-road-park-any-interest-1017157/

Doesn't look like it's going anywhere at the moment, but I suppose there is always hope. Where in Wantage do you live? My grandparents own a farm on 565 a few miles north of the Chatterbox.

- Justin

[transmaro93]

you know what i think it is a 35. i donno why 44 poped in my head... lol. i know obvoiuly the stronger you make it the less its gonna break but are the stock d30 and d35 very weak. like is it not even worth buying lockers to fit those axles that are in there? as far as gearing goes i like the way it drives so i dont think ill go higher with the gears

[Tru2Chevy]

The Dana 30 front is decent, the D35 is like a 7.5" 10 bolt....not really worth spending money on.

- Justin

[transmaro93]

thoughts on the powertrax "lock rite" product? its the one that just replaces the spider gears rather than the whole diff. I know it will be noisier but i dont really care about that. If i did that front and rear it would save at least $300 from going with standard lockers front and rear. and it wouldnt be dumping to much into a rear that is kinda weak. and they are easier to install... im leaning toward these

[B4C]

Detroit full case locker or bust LOL. If you havnt joined Jeepforum already, do it lol. I would be down to take a trip thru Wharton once I get this 8.25 axle in and my new wheel bearings in teh XJ. Dont waste money on the D35 atleast get a 27 spline 8.25 you can always upgrade to the 29 spline axles and carrier.

[79T/A]

Doesn't look like it's going anywhere at the moment, but I suppose there is always hope. Where in Wantage do you live? My grandparents own a farm on 565 a few miles north of the Chatterbox.

I remember you saying that in another thread. I believe it was the yellow barn? I'm a couple miles down the road in Lake Neepaulin by the airport.

The Dana 30 front is decent, the D35 is like a 7.5" 10 bolt....not really worth spending money on.

Agree. I'm building a front 30 for my heap now and picked up an Aussie locker. It's a lunchbox locker, but to install it properly in a D30 without having to do something wacky like shave some of the ring gear you have to take out the carrier. As long as you don't run a huge tire size on this combo and you are somewhat easy on the skinny pedal, it will hold up just fine. Got a buddy running 35s, 4.88s and a LockRite and in 11 years, he's only broken one axle shaft, and that was due to momentary insanity with the skinny pedal. I've got friends who really like the Aussie and I've helped install a few of them. Simple.

As Justin said, I wouldn't spend any money on that Dana 35. If you're considering any serious wheeling, you can look for a bolt in Dana 44 out of another Jeep, an 8.25 out of a Cherokee, or an 8.8 Ford out of an Explorer (Which would mean a disc brake upgrade too!).

And I've heard good things about the LockRite, too.

[Tru2Chevy]

I remember you saying that in another thread. I believe it was the yellow barn? I'm a couple miles down the road in Lake Neepaulin by the airport.

They are on the corner of 565 and Beemer Church Road - red barns and a big old farmhouse.

- Justin

[transmaro93]

yea im on jeep forum... did alot of reading... and im probably just gonna put a lockrite int he front diff for now. its cheap and seems to work well for most people. as for the rear. is there any chance that my truck has an 8.25 rear in it.? the covers look similar and i cant tell. is there a stamping somewhere i can find. if i keep the 35 they make those super 35 kits.. they are expensive but i dont know how much a used 44 would cost. i dont have the cash right now for it so i guess ill leave it open reared for now. just sucks cause i know its not gonna do well offroad. why would jeep not put posi diffs in these trucks... makes no sense. another question is would a 44 ouit of a wrangler work?

[LS1ow]

my friend has a 06 sport thats up 3" on 33" mud terrains with some other stuff and a nice warn on the front. im shure hed be down for some wheelin

[Tru2Chevy]

yea im on jeep forum... did alot of reading... and im probably just gonna put a lockrite int he front diff for now. its cheap and seems to work well for most people. as for the rear. is there any chance that my truck has an 8.25 rear in it.? the covers look similar and i cant tell. is there a stamping somewhere i can find. if i keep the 35 they make those super 35 kits.. they are expensive but i dont know how much a used 44 would cost. i dont have the cash right now for it so i guess ill leave it open reared for now. just sucks cause i know its not gonna do well offroad. why would jeep not put posi diffs in these trucks... makes no sense. another question is would a 44 ouit of a wrangler work?

Posi offroad is meh....better than an open rear, but still not anywhere near as good as a locker. And some did get posi rears, but not many.

See here (http://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/do-i-have-dana-44-a-3973/#post51141) for pics of the D35, D44, and 8.25. Should be able to tell what you have from that. D35 and 8.25 look pretty similar but the 8.25 has a flat bottom that sticks out from the cover a little that the D35 doesn't have. Also, you don't have ABS do you? If you do, it's definitely a D35.

As far as replacing the D35, I would just grab a 29 spline 8.25 (29 spline was stock in 8.25s on 97-01s) and swap that in. That will be all you need unless you plan on getting into some real hardcore wheeling or want to do lots of rock crawling (which we don't have here in NJ).

my friend has a 06 sport thats up 3" on 33" mud terrains with some other stuff and a nice warn on the front. im shure hed be down for some wheelin

The Replicon?

- Justin

[LS1ow]

The Replicon?

- Justin

YES!

[LS1ow]

the REPLICON for all the members who arent friends w. me on FB lol

pics from befor the new warn(burn out the superwinch yankin a diesel out the mud)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263843_2268307551022_1348587545_2683537_8209818_n. jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/148374_493770893782_681453782_7106917_5909350_n.jp g

[sweetbmxrider]

Looks like tire rub.

[LS1ow]

Looks like tire rub.

accually its not really bad. doesnt rub at full lock with the spacers. just rubs upon a decent amount of flex

[greenformula92]

if i could sell my car and buy the winter 4x4 i want i would be in, i haven't been wheeling in years

[transmaro93]

justin thanks for that link... after looking at the pics im pretty sure i have a 8.25 in there alread.. ill see if i can get a VIN breakdown next week to see what came stock on the truck unless someone knows a site that can do it. i have that flat spot onthe bottom of myh rear. there is a bunch of numbers onthe bottom of the pumpkin also anyone know if there is a casting or stamping somwhere that would confirm 100% its a 8.25... if it is an 8.25 this is good cause ill just put a locker int here and one in the front and ill go have some fun. being its a 2000 it should have 29spline axels. i have a pic on my phone ill try and get it up

[transmaro93]

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284896_10150342113100555_686995554_9726950_775805_ n.jpg

only snapped one before dark but you see the flat spot ont he bottom right... give me some good news please!

[crazyblazer87]

so since we got off topic...... when are we going off roading. my ford is pretty much ready for a trailride through wharton if anyone is interested

[transmaro93]

im ready for some puddle jumpen but nothing crazy till i put lockers in... and it was my thread so i can get off topic if i want... im new to this jeep/wheeling thing so i got alot to learn about both.

[LTb1ow]

im ready for some puddle jumpen but nothing crazy till i put lockers in... and it was my thread so i can get off topic if i want... im new to this jeep/wheeling thing so i got alot to learn about both.

No, you stay on topic Mr.

[Tru2Chevy]

I'm down whenever.....I'll bring the stock '92 out to splash a little mud on it. I am free most mornings - early afternoon. Want to try for a Saturday / Sunday morning sometime?

And Brandon, don't worry about the lockers much - you will be surprised at what even a stock cherokee can handle, and even more so after lift and tire upgrade. I've only gotten my 96 stuck once, and that was from trying to go through water I shouldn't have attempted - stalled the engine in the middle of the puddle and flooded the interior :(

- Justin

[transmaro93]

yea weekends would be better for me. a saturday or sunday works for me. Justin you see the pic i posted? thats deff a 8.25 i have right? im down when ever... i need a few more things but ill take my chances on some terrain that isnt to crazy...

[Tru2Chevy]

Yea, that looks like an 8.25 to me.

- Justin

[B4C]

That is an 8.25, dont necessacarily need lockers it suprising how well the XJ's do off road. Ive gotten my 90 stuck a bunch of times, push your limits with a group so you know what you can handle when you go out alone.
I would be down for a run thru wharton on a Sunday if you guys want Ill lead.

[transmaro93]

well most weekends im available in the mornings and afternoons... lets just set a date i guess and see whats good for people. this weekend is a little busy for me cause i already have some plans but when is good for you... apparently there is a some really good trails and pits down in bayville/beachwood area. adam said somthing about it and a guy that just started at my work wheels there with his son so that is an option for us too.

[r0nin89]

Just an FYI from someone whos ran lockrites and nothing but in all of his rigs.




Lockrite is an awesome cheap locker for the front axle when you've got manual hubs you can disconnect.

I ran one in the back of my 95 toyota and the back and front of my 87 chevy, both stick. I wont be running one in the back of my trooper. On the road theyre just too rough for a daily driven vehicle. They jerk the truck, still churp often, and dont unlock very easily (at least not in a manual trans truck as I think the slip in a torque converter would help them out a ton)


This build around Im gonna either fork out the dough for an ARB that I can disengage and have an open rear on the street with or try a detroit because Ive heard theyre much softer than lockrites.


O and also the lockrite, aussie, and any other lunch box locker are pretty much the same animal.

[camaroracer1992]

id be up for this as well. can someone keep a list of whos all in? thanks

[LS1ow]

oh btw, for anyone that needs parts. i work at jeep :)

[transmaro93]

so came across this... any of you guys interested or think this will be to much if there is a ton of trucks... never been to anything like this.. its just a beginner trail ride which would be good for me cause im a newb...

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f360/sep-24th-intro-pines-ride-1239153/

[sweetbmxrider]

JHowell72 fo lifez


I'd tag along if you want.

[transmaro93]

yea man of coarse your commen... but i was looken fo rmore trucks lol... whats jhowell72?

ok so i read another thread about these other trails in jackson where police wont bother you.. its Reed rd or somthing like that. anybody ever go there. have any info on it. seems like mild trails with some mud and hills and stuff. could be a good day just to get out and not break stuff lol... anybody interested in going there...

[sweetbmxrider]

Isn't that your username? I think I have heard of Reed but haven't been. Could go behind the cowboy in south jersery, off of 9 i think around bayville, but I don't think they like non-locals

[transmaro93]

ehh im local enough... just need bigger weapons than theirs is all.. and im transmaro93 over there too... keep the same name

[camaroracer1992]

rausch creek off road park http://www.rc4x4.org/ is about an hr from me in PA. I'd be glad to have you guys come to PA and if you guys wanted to each give like $10 i would be glad to get all sorts of hot dogs, burgers, chicken, etc and host lunch/after the day eating. Just thought id throw it out there.

[B4C]

I have a few ppl going for a wharton run on the 21st, if anyone would like to join LMK we will be meeting up at the pic in the morning.

[Tru2Chevy]

its just a beginner trail ride which would be good for me cause im a newb...
That looks like a cool ride, but last time I read that thread there was over 60 rigs going, and even with lots of organization it looks like it will be a cluster****.

ok so i read another thread about these other trails in jackson where police wont bother you.. its Reed rd or somthing like that. anybody ever go there. have any info on it. seems like mild trails with some mud and hills and stuff. could be a good day just to get out and not break stuff lol... anybody interested in going there...

Meh....I'd rather not go to some part of the state that none of us are very familiar with that is legally questionable.

I have a few ppl going for a wharton run on the 21st, if anyone would like to join LMK we will be meeting up at the pic in the morning.

21st is the south meet at Texas Road House, otherwise that would be cool.

- Justin

[B4C]

Well if anyone wants to join were going to be meeting up at the pic at 1030 am.

[transmaro93]

yea justin i thought that ride at wharton would be crazy with that many trucks too and with all beginners could get a little messy... as far as the reed road... i think its part of collier mills or somthing i think as long as you stay on the trails and your truck is registered and "street legal" its legal. if you start trekking through uncharted woods then im sure they wouldnt be happy about it... it goes behind the animal safari at six flags.. one guy took some georraffe pictures from the trail haha

[Tru2Chevy]

Ahh, yes. Just looked it up. Very close to Collier's Mills. Found it on JF?

- Justin

[sweetbmxrider]

I've heard of that trail, my neighbor and his dad used to always drive it.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

If I'm around that weekend I might go

[LS1ow]

If I'm around that weekend I might go

shotty in the explorer!

[BonzoHansen]

shotty in the explorer!

You should go and bring your Baretta.
http://epguides.com/Baretta/cast.jpg

[LS1ow]

You should go and bring your Baretta.
http://epguides.com/Baretta/cast.jpg

audi is a more likely canidate, its awd :) lol


i wish i still had the liberty... id take that anywere. its a lease. not my problem.

[transmaro93]

yea justin found it on JF... ill post the thread in a minute cuase i think some guys are going out there this weekend or soon.

[transmaro93]

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f360/solo-run-reed-rd-trails-jackson-nj-1225567/

[MarshallWS6]

Isn't this a GM fbod club?

[transmaro93]

its int he lounge!!... and you pretty much need to own a jeep and fbod to be in this club

[transmaro93]

looks like some guys from jeep forum are going out at collier mills this sunday.... they are meeting at the wawa on 539 by six flags tentativly at 10am... if its raining im probably not gonna go but if its nice out im prob gonna go if anyone is interested...

[LS1ow]

new toy :)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292800_2380136986688_1348587545_2840500_3275693_n. jpg

[MarshallWS6]

Windshield looks rather unsafe.

[LS1ow]

Windshield looks rather unsafe.

its broken lol n the fender is messed up. but i traded it for the baretta which was free so idc. its just gunna b drivin in woods/snow

[Tru2Chevy]

What year / drivetrain?

- Justin

[LS1ow]

94 cherokee sport. 88k miles. 4.0/auto.

[transmaro93]

couple guys from JF are meeting at 11 at the wawa near six flags if anyone wants to go i might take a ride up there

[bad64chevelle]

When are you going to Wharton? The RAM is back.

[transmaro93]

when ever man... hit that reed rd trail in jackson today solo with sweetbmxer and my brother and it was nothing crazy just a fun trail to splash around in. never been to wharton but we should set a date and go out there. ill feel more comfortable wheelen with other trucks anyway.

[sweetbmxrider]

It was pretty wild being next to the safari!

[camaroracer1992]

anyone up for a trip to rausch creek?? i can help with camping accomodations etc. Also is there any good trails in NJ, id love to bring my YJ over and go out with you guys on the trails.

[LS1ow]

anyone know anyone selling some tires? pref some 31x10.5s?

[Tru2Chevy]

anyone know anyone selling some tires? pref some 31x10.5s?

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43370

Not the greatest, but $60 takes all 4 if you need something larger than stock while you shop for what you really want.

- Justin

[LS1ow]

your turf is quite a journy from mine lol


ill give it about a week looking locally, and then well see lol

[sweetbmxrider]

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg190/sweetbmxrider/rims016.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg190/sweetbmxrider/rims012.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg190/sweetbmxrider/rims013.jpg

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[transmaro93]

i need more things to conquer... ready for trails people when ever you guys are

[KirkEvil]

i need more things to conquer... ready for trails people when ever you guys are

try conquering 11s