NJFBOA Fantasy Football League 2011

[cdacda13]

Hey Everybody, its that time of year again.

Who's interested in joining the annual NJFBOA Fantasy Football league?
In the past we've had 12 and 10 team leagues. If there is enough interest, we can make it a 12 team league, but at the moment I'll cap it at ten.

Buy in is possible is everyone agrees to it. In the past its been either 20-25$.

Join Up:
Go Here (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/register/joinprivateleague_league_select?.scrumb=)

League ID: 374280
Password: firebird

After you sign up, post your team name here. I'd like to keep a master list of everyone involved.


Master List:
1. cdacda13 - Plaxidential Shootin
2. mc73nova - Overrated Paid
3. NastyEllEssWon - nasty: Paid
4. cbrrmike - wombats: Paid
5. Tru2Chevy - Teh Admins :Paid
6. 88WS-6 - Hurricane Ditka: Paid
7. RiggsLW81- Sixx Killers
8. coolmanvette75 - Evil Opti Paid
9. Dilley- tuck and rolle: Paid
10. Neverpullout: Paid


Any suggestion on rule changes are welcome. Its a carry over from last year's rules.

Links to previous years Fantasy Football.
2010- Winner: Rob's 69, Gang Green (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52303&highlight=football)
2009- Winner: LS1Hawk, Donuts N' Glory (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46058&highlight=football)
Trash Talking Thread: 2009 (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46844&highlight=football)
2008- Winner: Cdacda13, Romosexual Tendency (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35939&highlight=football)

First Game is Thursday, September 8th.

Draft is September 6 at 9:30pm

[RiggsLW81]

Im back for Season 3.

$25 buy-in. PAYMENT DUE THE DAY BEFORE DRAFT OR NOT ALLOWED IN. This will avoid all that bullshiit of people who didnt pay on time and had to be hunted down for money after the season was over. NO PAYMENT, NO PLAY. plain and simple.

SIXX KILLERS, as always.

[mc73nova]

Overrated - I hope to redeem myself after choking last year!

[NastyEllEssWon]

3rd year here. missed the playoffs last year due to a few people tossing in the towel early and getting no help :( hopefully we get people that watch every week...even if theyre out :nod:

[Mike]

wombats as always

[cdacda13]

Im back for Season 3.

$25 buy-in. PAYMENT DUE THE DAY BEFORE DRAFT OR NOT ALLOWED IN. This will avoid all that bullshiit of people who didnt pay on time and had to be hunted down for money after the season was over. NO PAYMENT, NO PLAY. plain and simple.

SIXX KILLERS, as always.
I agree, as long as everyone agrees to a buy in, it will be you must pay before you draft.
If everyone agrees to a buy in, I'll PM you all my paypal account to send the money to.

Any and all feedback is welcome on the rules or league set-up. PM or email other members who have participated in the past to garner interest. Once a few more people sign up, we'll set a draft date that works for as many people as possible.

[Tru2Chevy]

I'm in, and I'm ok with a $20-$25 buy in, but would rather not go any higher.

- Justin

[88WS-6]

When would the draft be? Sorry I'm blocked from fantasy leagues at work or I'd check.

[88WS-6]

Nevermind they forgot to block yahoo fantasy sports and I forgot to read the bottom of your first post. I'm in for $25. Hurricane Ditka.

~Matt

[Tru2Chevy]

No one else wants to play?

Only a few weeks left before the season starts....

- Justin

[cdacda13]

I sent out a few PMs to players from past years who haven't signed up yet. Hopefully they'll make their way here soon.

[coolmanvette75]

Thinking about it. What's the payout look like?

[cdacda13]

Thinking about it. What's the payout look like?

Either 20 or 25$. In the years I've been here, its been 20$.

[Tru2Chevy]

Thinking about it. What's the payout look like?

Last year we paid in $25 each with 12 teams. Payout was $25 to 3rd place, and I think 1st and 2nd split what was left 70-30. Everyone seemed happy with that system last year, so I vote we keep it if everyone else agrees.

- Justin

[mc73nova]

$25 sounds good to me.

[RiggsLW81]

signed up. im down for $25 like last year.

i vote to do away with 3rd place payout. 10 teams is a small ass league, and to keep people playing, keep the payout between 1st and 2nd place. theres no need for 3rd place to get cash back. if the leauge was 15+ teams, then maybe... whats next, honorary ribbons for 4th thru 10th place?didnt we have 12 teams last year? no one else wants to dig into their shallow pockets?


vote no for 3rd place payout. better payouts for the real winners.

[Tru2Chevy]

yea, we had 12 teams last year....and so far we only have 7 this year. ditching 3rd place payout would be fine with me (although it was nice that i got my cash back last year :) ).

Need a few more people to join in, the season will be upon us before we know it.

- Justin

[Mike]

i added the third place payout to entice more people to vote for a non free league. even then i had to pay out of pocket for a couple players. im down with whatever, but splitting the extra 25 bucks 70/30 wouldnt have changed too much...

[coolmanvette75]

Just registerd. Im Evil Opti

[cdacda13]

2 more players to go to. PM any member you know that might be interested. Start asking friends or co-works if they would be interested.

What date and time works for everyone for the draft?

[coolmanvette75]

For me, any time on the 30th and after 4 on the 6th

[Mike]

anything on a tuesday wednesday or thursday, or a weekend before noon

[Tru2Chevy]

I would prefer a Tuesday or Wednesday evening.

- Justin

[coolmanvette75]

Seems like tuesday is the way to go. Good thing, cause thats my only day off :)

[Dilley]

tuck and rolle just let me know where to send the money

[Tru2Chevy]

tuck and rolle just let me know where to send the money

You still owe $25 that you never paid last year......

- Justin

[Dilley]

You still owe $25 that you never paid last year......

- Justin

no i definitely got that squared away back in may

[NastyEllEssWon]

i would prefer to have everyone send their money and lock in within the next week....just saying, so theres no confusion. also just please if you join, keep up with it...nothing like needing some help from other players to see someone has all their good players benched and the rest bye weeked up and them having enough points on the bench to pull out a win :(

[Tru2Chevy]

Yea, already stated that all money will be paid before the draft this year.

- Justin

[mc73nova]

PM me your paypal info so I can pay you this week.

[Dilley]

^same i understand i screwed up last year it just completely slipped my mind and i apologize to everyone especially the commissioner for having to front the money for my mess up

[cdacda13]

Draft set for this Tuesday at 12.
Any objections?

Need a final player and then I'll send everyone a PM with my paypal address.

[coolmanvette75]

Damn it I work 12-4 on tuesday

[RiggsLW81]

12 noon? in the middle of the workday? im definately not available for that time.

make it in the evening hours, like every other draft... 7-8pm at night when people are home/in front of computers & free to participate...

[88WS-6]

PM me paypal info so I can pay. Tuesday Sept 6th I can do anytime after 8pm.

~Matt

[Mike]

i have someone that will play, have played with him before and i know he will keep up with the team etc. let me know and i can have him signed up today

[cdacda13]

i have someone that will play, have played with him before and i know he will keep up with the team etc. let me know and i can have him signed up today

Pass along the info.

I can change the draft to Tuesday at 9:30pm, other than that I'm in class all day.
Does Tuesday September 6th at 9:30pm work for everyone?

[88WS-6]

Works for me

[coolmanvette75]

Yea that works for me too. Pm me the paypal info too please...

[Mike]

9:30 works for me

[cdacda13]

Draft date changed, Paypal address sent to everyone involved in the league.

[88WS-6]

$25 sent

[88WS-6]

Also can we change the "max moves: 18" rule if everyone agrees? I usually make like 3 moves per week.

[cdacda13]

Also can we change the "max moves: 18" rule if everyone agrees? I usually make like 3 moves per week.

Changed it to unlimited.

[NastyEllEssWon]

i didnt check this site until this weekend. ill paypal tomorrow afternoon. this is my third year in this league...money will be good :D

[88WS-6]

Nice, thanks.

[coolmanvette75]

Paypal coming tonight before the draft after I get home from work...

[NastyEllEssWon]

money is sent and locked in. good luck in the draft tonight guys!

[88WS-6]

Yea good luck guys. This is my fourth league and I have a yahoo! draft at 7pm tonight before this one...

[mc73nova]

Money sent, see you all in a few hours.

[coolmanvette75]

Money sent. Good luck everyone. Pick wisely

[coolmanvette75]

So how is everyone's week 1 going? Im pretty satisfied with 107 points with one player left to play

[Tru2Chevy]

I have a nice lead (~100-78), still anybody's game though. I have Romo throwing tonight, and Welker playing tomorrow night still, aside from the 3 playing now.

I'm more excited about how my 49ers are looking today. Looks like they have a very strong D, and the O line is playing well also. Alex Smith is doing a nice job of trying to prove the haters wrong, hopefully he keeps it up.

- Justin

[NastyEllEssWon]

the difference between a loss and win this week was a 63 yard field goal. i knew there was a reason i picked the biggest kicker ever :D

[coolmanvette75]

I took care of mike this week. Justin is gonna be tough if he puts up the same numbers he did...

[Tru2Chevy]

I wouldn't expect the performance I got from a few of those guys every week, but as a group they look pretty solid overall.

- Justin

[88WS-6]

Eli Manning is on the Hurricane Ditka trading block.

[Tru2Chevy]

Gah......Why did I take Romo?!?!?!?!?

But, at least the Niners are putting a hurt on the Cowgirls.

- Justin

[Mike]

Update Justin?

[Tru2Chevy]

:shrug: Oh well, you get used to these things being a Niners fan.

At least Romo came back and put up some decent points for me - many others were slacking today. Hope the Eagles really dominate Atlanta tonight.....

- Justin

[coolmanvette75]

For my sake, go Falcons.

[Tru2Chevy]

For my sake, go Falcons.

For now it looks like a repeat of last week isn't in the cards.....we shall have to see how things go.

- Justin

[cdacda13]

2-0 with the highest point total this week (projected, I have 2 players still going and tuck and rolle is 5 points with zero left playing.)

I think it has been a good week.

[coolmanvette75]

Tony Gonzalez still has it. Putting up big numbers for me

[Tru2Chevy]

Tony Gonzalez still has it. Putting up big numbers for me

Yea, he is looking pretty good. Those points certainly aren't helping my chances of a crazy come from behind win :|

- Justin

[coolmanvette75]

Looks like Evil Opti is 3-0. Hopefully I can keep it up. Games are getting tighter and tighter every week...

[NastyEllEssWon]

i just cant get a break dammit.

[Tru2Chevy]

Today was my punishment for not counting on Romo....Henne managed to put up a whopping .18 points before getting hurt and going out for the rest of the game (compared to Romo's 22.x points today). Always sucks to leave that many points on the bench. At least the rest of my team is doing pretty well....

- Justin

[cdacda13]

Today was my punishment for not counting on Romo....Henne managed to put up a whopping .18 points before getting hurt and going out for the rest of the game (compared to Romo's 22.x points today). Always sucks to leave that many points on the bench. At least the rest of my team is doing pretty well....

- Justin
Somehow your quarterback did worse than mine. I didn't think that was possible.

[NastyEllEssWon]

i need to make some moves. im getting desperate searching for some points here.

[88WS-6]

Updated my trading block. Take a look guys...

[coolmanvette75]

Damn first loss and it would be to the 10 seed. Lol

[88WS-6]

Yahoo limits trading blocks to 5 players max, so if you see anyone don't hesitate to make me an offer. I have a trade pending already. All my players are up for grabs for the right price.

[Tru2Chevy]

Anyone with an extra good WR need a TE?

Somehow your quarterback did worse than mine. I didn't think that was possible.

Yea, no kidding. Now I'm just hoping Painter doesn't pick tonight to get in stride with Clark and Wayne :)

- Justin

[NastyEllEssWon]

awesome picked up win number 2 this week. i needed that. on a side note, i dont think in the last 2/3 years ive lost to mike (wombats) yet :D i could be wrong


on a side note, i bench hines ward and he catches his first td's of the season....a pair of them :-x

[88WS-6]

that's what always happens...

[Tru2Chevy]

Yea, points on the bench cost me a win again this week.

- Justin

[Tru2Chevy]

Well, my fantasy week is not looking to great (here's hoping that that Cowboys / Pats game is high scoring with lots and lots of passing!), but after watching the 49ers overcome mostly themselves (15 penalties for 120yds) and still hold on to beat the Lions I'm on top of the world :D

- Justin

[coolmanvette75]

Injuries and bye weeks are killing me :(

[NastyEllEssWon]

on a few late pickups for the bye week i was able to push through with andy dalton as a late minute qb. phew. 1-3....now im 3-3....this is the exact reason why i hate people that give up early in the year!

[88WS-6]

Anybody want Peyton Hillis? I heard he can pull an ambulance...

[Tru2Chevy]

Well, it looks like my bye week from hell was outdone by Mike's bye week from hell. My entire bench is on a bye this week, and I still managed to put up 100+ points (thanks mostly to my DeMarco Murray pickup this week)

- Justin

[Mike]

Awful. Soo horrible it's not even worth thinking about

[coolmanvette75]

Drew Brees/Marques Colston combo gave me almost 50 points before halftime. Saved me from a sure loss...

[Tru2Chevy]

Go figure.....second half of the 4th quarter and now Romo remembers how to throw a football. :shakes head in despair:

- Justin

[coolmanvette75]

I got destroyed this week. Although it kind of makes sense since 6 of my best players are on a bye this week...

[88WS-6]

Eli did well again. Anyone want to trade?

[cdacda13]

CONGRATULATIONS TO DILLEY (Tuck and rolle) for his Championship.
And congratulations to Tru2Chevy (Teh Admins) for finishing second.
And 3rd place went to Neverpullout.

All the winnings have been sent out, please pm me and let me know that you got them. Sorry for them being a little late, its been a busy time the last 2 weeks.

Everyone, thanks for participating in the league this year. Better luck to all of us next year on unseating Dilley at the top.

Any feedback on the league/rules/set-up please post up and we'll fix it for next year.

Until next season folks.

[Mike]

anyone want to plan for a keeper league?


my only issue with the rules/setup was how deep the benches were.

[Dilley]

CONGRATULATIONS TO DILLEY (Tuck and rolle) for his Championship.
And congratulations to Tru2Chevy (Teh Admins) for finishing second.
And 3rd place went to Neverpullout.

All the winnings have been sent out, please pm me and let me know that you got them. Sorry for them being a little late, its been a busy time the last 2 weeks.

Everyone, thanks for participating in the league this year. Better luck to all of us next year on unseating Dilley at the top.

Any feedback on the league/rules/set-up please post up and we'll fix it for next year.

Until next season folks.

Thank you and thanks to everyone that played it was definitely a fun season

anyone want to plan for a keeper league?


my only issue with the rules/setup was how deep the benches were.

i was actually going to bring that up i would love a keeper league so my vote is in and what you can do for the bench depth is have mandatory rosters meaning you must have 2 qbs 4 rbs 5wrs 3 te 2k 2 def and maybe 1 or 2 ir slots

[coolmanvette75]

Good year guys! I was a contender early but injuries kept me out of the running

[Tru2Chevy]

Romo played well for me most of the season, and then completely failed me when it counted the most. Just had to punch some guy in the helmet, LOL.

Good season everyone, and I would also be interested in the prospect of a keeper league if everyone wants to come back. I also like the idea of the mandatory roster setup, as long as there are at least 1 or 2 'flex' spots on the roster to leave room for good trade deals or waiver pickups and such that might at least temporarily unbalance your roster.

- Justin

[88WS-6]

I would be down for a keeper league

[Dilley]

does anyone want to discuss the keeper idea further?

[88WS-6]

A few things I would recommend:

- A live draft is a must for keeper leagues. It's more fun, we get to hang out and no one has any connectivity issues.

- Standard leagues use 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1FLEX, 1TE, 1DEF, 1K 1IR and 4 or 5 bench

- We need to decide between a keeper league and dynasty league

Keeper league - each owner keeps 2-4 players ONLY each year and then re-drafts the rest of the team

Dynasty league - each owner can keep their entire team if they want

- A good example of a keeper league

http://ffgeekblog.com/2008/03/what-s-the-best-keeper-league-ruleset-2/

[Dilley]

A few things I would recommend:

- A live draft is a must for keeper leagues. It's more fun, we get to hang out and no one has any connectivity issues.

- Standard leagues use 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1FLEX, 1TE, 1DEF, 1K 1IR and 4 or 5 bench

- We need to decide between a keeper league and dynasty league

Keeper league - each owner keeps 2-4 players ONLY each year and then re-drafts the rest of the team

Dynasty league - each owner can keep their entire team if they want

- A good example of a keeper league

http://ffgeekblog.com/2008/03/what-s-the-best-keeper-league-ruleset-2/

i love the live draft idea and the whole bench thing the way i was taught was your team consists of 2qb 4rb 5wr 2te 2k 2def then you play 1 qb 2rb 1flex 1wr 1wr/te 1te 1k 1def just a suggestion for stucture and i am up for either a keeper league or a dynasty league

[Dilley]

is there any interest in a league this year?

[Tru2Chevy]

Yup, I'll jump in again.....3rd year is the charm I hope :)

- Justin

[NastyEllEssWon]

im in again!

[88WS-6]

I'm in. I would still like to pursue a keeper or dynasty league too if everyone else is down....

[coolmanvette75]

I'm in but not for a live (in person) draft. I'll be at school 2000 miles away...

[Jersey Mike]

Keep me posted.

[Dilley]

I'm in. I would still like to pursue a keeper or dynasty league too if everyone else is down....

I'd be interested in that

[Tru2Chevy]

I'm in. I would still like to pursue a keeper or dynasty league too if everyone else is down....

I don't have a problem with this, but wouldn't we have to bring back the exact same people to make this work?

I'm in but not for a live (in person) draft. I'll be at school 2000 miles away...

No worries, we draft online (yahoo league).

- Justin

[88WS-6]

I don't have a problem with this, but wouldn't we have to bring back the exact same people to make this work?

- Justin

Not if we started it this year. I assumed we would draft new this year and then keep or dynasty those people. I didn't draft with the future in mind last year.

[91FBirdDropTop]

im in if its an online draft

[88WS-6]

We should get this rolling becaucse our draft should be in the next few weeks... Who's running it and what type of league are we going for?

Again, dynasty means you have the option to keep your entire team (or as many players as you want). Keeper leagues have settings so that each owner can only keep a certain amount of players after the season is over. That number is usually 3 or 4.

[91FBirdDropTop]

any one interested in doing individual defensive players?

[Cycule]

Can I get in on this league?

[88WS-6]

any one interested in doing individual defensive players?

I've done IDP before, and it's not bad. They don't score you many points, but it's fun to do. The draft takes FOREVER though...

[Cycule]

PM me, I want in lol:)

[88WS-6]

I PMed Cdacda to see if he's running it again this year. If he's not, I wouldn't mind doing it but we need to figure out what type of league and who's in regardless...

[Cycule]

I can run it on yahoo. Let me know of you want me to set it up?

[Cycule]

Come on people, I know you guys wanna play some fantasy football. Someone start it up or I will...lol

[Tru2Chevy]

Come on people, I know you guys wanna play some fantasy football. Someone start it up or I will...lol

Relax man.....give the guy who ran it last year more than a few hours to respond to a PM. Last year we didn't draft until 2 days before the first game and there were no issues. It's not like we have to get this all finalized before the end of this week. :mrgreen:

- Justin

[Mike]

First of al the draft should be some time during the pre-season, not this early. Too many variables can happen to have the draft before training camps even start

[88WS-6]

First of al the draft should be some time during the pre-season, not this early. Too many variables can happen to have the draft before training camps even start

I completely agree. My point was that we all need to decide on what type of league we will be in, so that we can create it and set a date for late next month. People need time to pay up too.

[Cycule]

Ok i will wait then:)

[cdacda13]

Hey Everybody!

I've been away for a while but it is nice to come back (thanks 88WS-6 for the PM, brought my attention back to this) and find interest in the league again. I'll run the league again unless anyone has any objections to it.

A few thoughts:
Is everyone ok with keeping the $20 buy-in for the league?
I always liked starting new every year, but if a majority wants to do a keeper league I'll do it.

And as for the keeper league: Last years owners would get first chance to come back and claim a spot in the league. If they don't want to come back, then new owners would take over their squads.
Here's a list of last year's owners:
1. cdacda13
2. mc73nova
3. NastyEllEssWon
4. cbrrmike
5. Tru2Chevy
6. 88WS-6
7. RiggsLW81
8. coolmanvette75
9. Dilley
10. Neverpullout (Mike's friend, non board member)

The size of the benches will be smaller this year. If you have any other rule changes or suggestions, post them. We'll see what works and what doesn't.

As Mike said, its too early to have the draft. Once the league is formed, we'll try to find a time and date that works for a MAJORITY of the people. Sometime around the end of August gives training camps enough time to shake things up.

[88WS-6]

I'm in again and $20 is fine. I'm down for a keeper league.

[NastyEllEssWon]

im in it to win it :D

[Mike]

im in

[cdacda13]

Ok, I'll start PMing the people who played lasted year and see if they want to play again.

[coolmanvette75]

Yup I'm in

[NastyEllEssWon]

lol mark me down for in every year that this is going on...this was by far the most fun league ive ever been in :D

[cdacda13]

At the moment, there are at least 5 people from last year's league willing to sign up again. PMs have been sent to everyone who played last year and haven't replied since my first post on 7/27.
If there ends up being more than 10 people willing to play, we will end up not having the keeper league. I will not excluded people who want to play.
The draft won't be until the end of August so there is still at least 3 weeks to figure everything out.

[NastyEllEssWon]

Can we take the limit off the waiver moves too. that was kinda beat because no one was willing to deal because of the limited number of deals. also i think 10 is the magic number, any deeper than that and it becomes slim pickings

[88WS-6]

So 10 team keeper league? Sounds good...

[cdacda13]

Can we take the limit off the waiver moves too. that was kinda beat because no one was willing to deal because of the limited number of deals. also i think 10 is the magic number, any deeper than that and it becomes slim pickings
Waiver wire moves will be less restricted if there are less teams and shorter benches. They shouldn't be unlimited, but whatever restrictions there were last year will be lossened.

[NastyEllEssWon]

Waiver wire moves will be less restricted if there are less teams and shorter benches. They shouldn't be unlimited, but whatever restrictions there were last year will be lossened.


unlimited waiver wire moves makes it intersting because people will be able to dump and move each week leaving the pool of available players and trades to be a bit more lucrative and add to the drama of someone releasing a player only for them to do awesome that next week :D

[Mike]

my buddy that played last season is in again

[cdacda13]

7 people from last year are willing to sign up again, with one person so far declining to participate again.

List so far.
1. Me
2. Mike
3. NastyEllEssWon
4. Tru2Chevy
5. 88WS-6
6.RiggsLW81
7. Coolmanvette
8. Mike's friend

Still haven't heard from Dilley and mc73nova pulled out for this year.

[Mike]

If we are going to reduce the restrictions on waiver moves. We should cut down the number of bench players too

[Jersey Mike]

If you end up doing a fresh league, there's interested there.

[NastyEllEssWon]

If we are going to reduce the restrictions on waiver moves. We should cut down the number of bench players too



whatever the settings were for the first year was the best. there were trades. last minute sneaking into the top 4, tie breakers going on. it was fun

[Dilley]

the whole keeper league idea if it is still an option you can always give the 1 new person the other guys team to work with from last year thats how my other league always handles it when people drop out
and im in for this year

[Mike]

What's the plan?

[cdacda13]

What's the plan?
At the moment, there is 9 out of the 10 owners back from last year. I will PM Cycule and let him know that there is a spot available to him in the league. If he accepts, I'll start a new thread and try to figure out a draft time that works for everyone.

[Mike]

What's the rule on the keepers? How many. How do they affect the draft

[cdacda13]

What's the rule on the keepers? How many. How do they affect the draft

To be honest, I'm still trying to wrap my head around the keeper rules. I have to do some more research to clarify everything.
But, here is how I understand them at the moment:
You are allowed to keep two players.
Draft order will go in reserve of last years final standings: If you finished last, you pick first. (Unsure if it will be snake order the rest of the way.)
Your first keeper choice will cost you your first round pick. Regardless of where you picked him. I.E. If you selected Calvin Johnson in the 3rd round last year, and you label him as a keeper, you will lose your first round pick.
Your second keeper choice will make you forfeit your second round pick.

The other league I'm in is doing a yahoo keeper league as well, so I'm working with the commissioner there to figure everything out. Once I get more information, I'll let you all know. I hope to have everything figured out by the weekend so you'll have plenty of time to decide on keeper picks.

[Mike]

You have it set the way my other league does(keeps going on 5 years) the keeper counts for the round they were drafted in last year. If they were undrafted they count for the final round.
When you do keepers you pretty much have to use last seasons results as a draft order.

We have a personal rule in ours that you can only keep a player twice (3 years total) which makes for some big trades

[Cycule]

I am so pumped to be invited. I am totally in.!!!!