MUSTANG for 2013 has the MOST Powerful V/8 in the WORLD!

[edpontiac91]

Ford has just announced that the G.T.500 (with the Supercharger) gets an extra 100 ponies, now up to 650 hp, which is the most powerful production V/8 in the world.:shock:

This is really getting sick. At what point is it safe to give anybody a car with a top speed of 200 mph and expect them to be ABLE to know how to handle it. I love power myself, but put me behind the wheel of a MB SLS with a 670 hp hand built V/12 with dual Turbos and punch it down, you don't know just how fast this beast accelerates. It makes EVERYTHING else on the road seem to stand still, not to mention waiting for every State Trooper on the road looking at you. Just my :2cents:

[LS1ow]

real all this stuff this morning. i do think factory cars are getting a little bit rediculous...

[BonzoHansen]

History repeats itself: it will be like the 70s soon. No one will be able to get insurance for these monsters, and the new govt standards are going to force changes.

[Blacdout96]

It think the biggest thing your all forgetting about is the price. You won't be seeing three of these on your way to the store. Also, where are you able to go to perform said 200mph? You'll get a couple idiots behind the wheel and wrap them around a tree, but other then that, the majority of these will be garage queens, since car collecting is a bigger deal then in the 60's and 70's.

[LS1ow]

It think the biggest thing your all forgetting about is the price. You won't be seeing three of these on your way to the store. Also, where are you able to go to perform said 200mph? You'll get a couple idiots behind the wheel and wrap them around a tree, but other then that, the majority of these will be garage queens, since car collecting is a bigger deal then in the 60's and 70's.

they have to keep it in some what of a relative price range. theres a decent amount of GT500s by me. i say i see 10+ a week easy. there a popular car. i dont think they'd jump tag on them that much

[Blacdout96]

At what point is it safe to give anybody a car with a top speed of 200 mph and expect them to be ABLE to know how to handle it.

When you buy a car like this, it's at the owners discretion wheither to educate themselves by taking a performance driving school ( The right way), or to be cheap, and feel they know what their doing, after stepping up from a toyota Camry to a 650hp car. ( The wrong way)

I believe years ago, when you purchased a Dodge Viper, you were given lessons at a performance track, which was smart since Vipers (a.k.a widow makers) arent the most stable when you get loosesy goosey in it. I can only hope that one day all manufacturers do this for cars with 500+hp, and even that's a little too much for the average joe.

[LS1ow]

When you buy a car like this, it's at the owners discretion wheither to educate themselves by taking a performance driving school ( The right way), or to be cheap, and feel they know what their doing, after stepping up from a toyota Camry to a 650hp car. ( The wrong way)

I believe years ago, when you purchased a Dodge Viper, you were given lessons at a performance track, which was smart since Vipers (a.k.a widow makers) arent the most stable when you get loosesy goosey in it. I can only hope that one day all manufacturers do this for cars with 500+hp, and even that's a little too much for the average joe.

i can vouch for the vipers. working at a dodge dealer we get them in every so often for service and what not, they shure do dance around.

[WildBillyT]

When you buy a car like this, it's at the owners discretion wheither to educate themselves by taking a performance driving school ( The right way), or to be cheap, and feel they know what their doing, after stepping up from a toyota Camry to a 650hp car. ( The wrong way)

I believe years ago, when you purchased a Dodge Viper, you were given lessons at a performance track, which was smart since Vipers (a.k.a widow makers) arent the most stable when you get loosesy goosey in it. I can only hope that one day all manufacturers do this for cars with 500+hp, and even that's a little too much for the average joe.

I don't think you got lessons but the Viper had the highest percentage of cars not making it home from the dealership.

Regarding the new GT500, that's awesome and all, but it is Ford.

That means there will be some massive achilles heel or problem.

[Blacdout96]

On a side note.....the 1996-2002 Dodge Viper GTS is still one of the sexiest cars of all time, and certainly the sexiest of all the Vipers. :D

[LTb1ow]

Patiently awaits the GM response in HP to this.

[BonzoHansen]

Patiently awaits the GM response in HP to this.

it will take them 20 minutes to push the ls9 to 675.

[mc73nova]

I like what they are doing with the Factory cars. Nice to see muscle coming back. No matter what you are going to have people that cant handle the horsepower, whether it came that way or someone builds it. At least this way the car is built to handle the power it is putting down, both accelerating and stopping. How many cars are out on the road that have twice as much power as they came with and dont have the mods to support it. Of course with the wrong driver, any car is an accident waiting to happen. This is also a way for these companies to be able to upgrade their race programs. They have been doing this since way back in the day, that is why GM vehicles were offered with powerglides! It wasn't a great cruiser but it worked great in a race car!

[sweetbmxrider]

This seems legit.

[Blackbirdws6]

Pretty good kick in the nuts to the ZL1. I will await the track testing and such to see which one actually performs better. Unfortunately, I have the feeling most people will just see the HP number and get small man syndrome.

Adding HP to the ZL1 is easy in the aftermarket but GM would need to get some additional paperwork done and likely recertify the emissions cert. Only issue you run into is that they likely won't push power beyond the ZR1.

Fun stuff either way.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

it will take them 20 minutes to push the ls9 to 675.

about 10 minutes w/ a good tuner...

[Tru2Chevy]

I'm still waiting to see the price point. It certainly won't be 6 figures, but there is a lot of neat new features in this car and I would be shocked if the price doesn't see a relatively significant increase from the 2012 GT500.

Adding HP to the ZL1 is easy in the aftermarket but GM would need to get some additional paperwork done and likely recertify the emissions cert. Only issue you run into is that they definitely won't push power beyond the ZR1.

Fixed.

- Justin

[Slow-V6]

As long as they keep the 10 airbags and all the safty equipment in it then I really see no reason why it will stop. They get 24 mpg and make 600 hp and have a 5 star crash rating!!

[madness410]

I'm going to say the people that can afford cars like this and can also at the same time throw down for the upkeep, maintenance, gas, and insurance are people who are mature enough to not do 200 down the gsp.

by the way you drove an sls?

[BigRocsFirebird]

i've been checking this out, i'm going to my ford dealership tomorrow to see how about getting one of these bad boys

[Jersey Mike]

I'm going to say the people that can afford cars like this and can also at the same time throw down for the upkeep, maintenance, gas, and insurance are people who are mature enough to not do 200 down the gsp.

by the way you drove an sls?

Highly false. But can't wait til they do it. I said a while back that I don't think we'll see manufacturers putting 700+ hp cars out on the roads (sans the ZR1 and supercars of the like), but hey, I've been wrong before, so who knows.

I love pushing the envelope.

[BullittSVT]

Let's see how well those ponies are planted, keep at it Ford! Personally I hate 5th gen Camaros so this makes a sweet alternative to the ZL1.

And who cares if people can't drive these..It's a product, buyer beware it will kick you in the nuts if you disrespect it. You can't expect a consumer to do anything but hopefully purchase your product, all other factors are irrelevant and not the manufacturers problem if little Johnny down the street is being picked up by a vacuum after going into a wall doing a buck 70.

I love living in America :D

[WayFast84]

650hp and a ton of rattles.........

[LS1ow]

im still more interested in putting the drivetrain with a solid axle in a notch... you can keep your new gt500 lol

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

There was an article in USA Today about this (I'm traveling I get it under my door every morning). It also posed the question of is this too much power for the average person.

[sweetbmxrider]

The average person can't afford this toy and we all know rich people are better drivers soooooo problem?

Did they fix the whole oil in the motor thing and a transmission that stays together?

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

The average person can't afford this toy and we all know rich people are better drivers soooooo problem?

Did they fix the whole oil in the motor thing and a transmission that stays together?

Dunno about transmissions but the engine is a 5.8 based off the old 5.4 so it'll be ok.

[sweetbmxrider]

So they gave up on the oil eater? Seems legit.

[BigRocsFirebird]

The average person can't afford this toy and we all know rich people are better drivers soooooo problem?

Did they fix the whole oil in the motor thing and a transmission that stays together?

I found another common problem lol miss fire on cylinder #8.. I found thats all over the forums. I just left my dealer now. I have to say im dissapointed with this engine. The power is great when working 100% but other than that its bad. I might save up and order this new beast

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

So they gave up on the oil eater? Seems legit.

GT500s never used the 5.0 and there was never an indication they would

[sweetbmxrider]

I found another common problem lol miss fire on cylinder #8.. I found thats all over the forums. I just left my dealer now. I have to say im dissapointed with this engine. The power is great when working 100% but other than that its bad. I might save up and order this new beast

That's beat. I guess ford should have spent more time with the motor and got it 100%

GT500s never used the 5.0 and there was never an indication they would

Not ford guy, don't care.

[BigRocsFirebird]

Yeah it is lol oh well

[BullittSVT]

Awaiting a big block Ford GT500 >_>

[LS1ow]

03-04 cobra are still the nicest stangs ever produced.

[BigRocsFirebird]

03-04 cobra are still the nicest stangs ever produced.

yup, i'd get one but i dont want to deal with what the owner before did or might have done and rigged it up.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

03-04 cobra are still the nicest stangs ever produced.

http://mustang1.net/data/media/3/Mustang_69.jpg

[Tru2Chevy]

Awaiting a big block Ford GT500 >_>

The traditional big block is a thing of the past as far as new cars go. They can get plenty of displacement out of newer small blocks, and they'll just use boost / technology to get the rest of the power they need.

The manufacturers are doing everything they can to increase the mileage on everything - even cars like this.

- Justin

[LS1ow]

yup, i'd get one but i dont want to deal with what the owner before did or might have done and rigged it up.

ive always wanted a terminator. 2 of my friends had em. one was sold, 1 was totaled. the sold one was build by Walsh performance in illinios and he purchased it threw muscle car garage in booton. C4, Whippled, Solid Axle, on spray. thing was a beast.

the other my friend got on a trade. traded his 07 f-250 powerstroke for the cobra and cash. the cobra got the hellion hell rasier and a viper spec t56. he totaled it on rt80 last summer.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b373/fbm314/Vinnys%20Cars/PICT0180.jpg

also have vids of both cars... but not approcriate to post on these boards:mrgreen:

[Slow-V6]

yup, i'd get one but i dont want to deal with what the owner before did or might have done and rigged it up.

Get a low mile stock one and you will be good to go. Those 03/04 motors were fully built from the factory. They can handle 700hp..

[BrandonDrecksage]

I wish the base gt 5.0 could be had with the boss recaros..

[zraffz]

It's not all that ridiculous to think about. The ZR1 is more than likely still faster than this new GT500.
I don't think GM will bother making the ZL1 faster though.

[Tru2Chevy]

It's not all that ridiculous to think about. The ZR1 is more than likely still faster than this new GT500.
I don't think GM will bother making the ZL1 faster though.

The ZR1 is ~500lbs lighter and more aerodynamic, with a more advanced suspension. It has slightly more torque, and is only rated 12hp less. It will still blow the doors off of the GT500.

- Justin

[donnj]

peek at a possible 2015?

[zraffz]

The ZR1 is ~500lbs lighter and more aerodynamic, with a more advanced suspension. It has slightly more torque, and is only rated 12hp less. It will still blow the doors off of the GT500.

- Justin

Well the history of the ZL1 is very limited in the past. If I recall correctly it was always kinda a one hit wonder and then disappeared. I'm not to say that will be happening again this year but if you look at the history the Cobra is usually just as fast or faster than the SS... and the corvette always crushes everything.

[Tru2Chevy]

I made no reference to the Camaro ZL1....the only chance it stands against the new GT500 is right off the line, since the 'stang will be sitting there spinning unless you option the package that includes launch control, which the ZL1 comes with standard.

- Justin

[BigRocsFirebird]

The ZR1 is ~500lbs lighter and more aerodynamic, with a more advanced suspension. It has slightly more torque, and is only rated 12hp less. It will still blow the doors off of the GT500.

- Justin

yupp, i like my fords but if i had the choice of a ZR1 or GT500 i'd take the zr1 all day. its just nasty

[LS1ow]

i dont think many would take the GT500 over the ZR1. even thou the HP numbers are close to the same, there still 2 different cars. the ZR1 is a VETTE, the GT500 is still a MUSTANG. 2 different cars, for 2 different things. lets see what time the GT500 puts down at the 'ring and then compare it to the ZR1

[LS1ow]

and i am by no means knocking mustangs at all! ive had my foxes bodies, and theres still a new edge in my driveway right now.

[WayFast84]

I found another common problem lol miss fire on cylinder #8.. I found thats all over the forums. I just left my dealer now. I have to say im dissapointed with this engine. The power is great when working 100% but other than that its bad. I might save up and order this new beast

This is due to handeld tuners... Every instance known so far has had a handheld tune. It's been mentioned before all over ford forums that some tuners had offered new tunes with less messing of the knock sensors.

This was the major reason why I did not get a 5.0, I would've tuned the car right after I did the first oil change and Ford wasn't screwing around with the cars that had mods..

[BigAls87Z28]

Yeah, SRT and Camaro engineers are not that happy. Chrysler showed off a 300C 426 concept, but no way that is going to keep up.

If there is any power increase, it will come from ZR1. ZL1 will get no power increase.
GM wouldn't cop to anything in LA.
V6 and GT also got some upgrades in power, but nothing major.

[LTb1ow]

Yea, the main reason I didn't get a ZR1 was gonna basically everyone has em these days.

[BigAls87Z28]

Yea, the main reason I didn't get a ZR1 was gonna basically everyone has em these days.

You don't say?

[Frosty]

You don't say?

He did say.

[LTb1ow]

You don't say?

Yea man, dealers are approving everyone 18 year old that walks in, its like the new camaro basically.

[WildBillyT]

Yea man, dealers are approving everyone 18 year old that walks in, its like the new camaro basically.

Yeah, it's wild. Hard to believe, given that less than 44% of college graduates from last year have work and that economists are describing the newest generation as "lost" due to widespread unemployment and debt crises.

Xbox, recycled 80's clothes, cans of Monster, ZR1. Makes sense.

[sweetbmxrider]

Ya'll bitches mad that I'm balls deep in sluts!

[WildBillyT]

Ya'll bitches mad that I'm balls deep in sluts!

Yeah, why are you slumming it with that F-150? Couldn't decide between the Henessey Velociraptor and a twin turbo SRT-10?

[Frosty]

Ya'll bitches mad that I'm balls deep in sluts!

How's the herpes working out?

[sweetbmxrider]

Yeah, why are you slumming it with that F-150? Couldn't decide between the Henessey Velociraptor and a twin turbo SRT-10?

Nah they didn't have them in a sweet maroon so I took my bags of money and sluts elsewhere!

How's the herpes working out?

doesn'tfeelsgoodbro.sti

[LTb1ow]

Yeah, it's wild. Hard to believe, given that less than 44% of college graduates from last year have work and that economists are describing the newest generation as "lost" due to widespread unemployment and debt crises.

Xbox, recycled 80's clothes, cans of Monster, ZR1. Makes sense.

I don't even have a xbox, and I am stuck with a lame ole diesel truck.

feelsbadman.jpg

:rofl:

[WayFast84]

Yeah, it's wild. Hard to believe, given that less than 44% of college graduates from last year have work and that economists are describing the newest generation as "lost" due to widespread unemployment and debt crises.

Xbox, recycled 80's clothes, cans of Monster, ZR1. Makes sense.

44% of college students that can't find a job have no work experience and aren't willing to accept full time jobs at a rate they deserve for having no work experience.

As for approving 18 year olds :shock:...

[LS1ow]

Chrylser 300C 426 ? tell me ****...

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Ford doesn't seem too confident in their new car haha

Ford brought out its 650-horsepower 2013 Shelby GT 500, a car the automaker says can top 200 mph. While it has the same squared-off looks of other Mustangs, it's all the work under the sheetmetal that is really impressive.
And to hear its engine rumble is automotive heaven.
The 2013 Camaro ZL1 convertible is equally as impressive, though it creates only 580 horsepower.
That didn't discourage Joe Ewanick, vice president of GM's marketing, from throwing a challenge at Ford.
"We should take a Camaro, Ford brings a Mustang, we each pick our drivers, and see who has the best time on the Nuremberg Ring," Ewanick said, referring to the legendary race track in Germany.
Jim Farley, who heads Ford's global marketing, was not swayed by the challenge (though it did appear he was biting his tongue slightly).
"I wish we could," he said, after hearing about Ewanick's challenge. "Who wouldn't want to do that?"

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20111117/OPINION03/111170347/Beauty--brawn-steal-Los-Angeles-spotlight#ixzz1dzxLD0yx

[WildBillyT]

"We should take a Camaro, Ford brings a Mustang, we each pick our drivers, and see who has the best time on the Nuremberg Ring," Ewanick said, referring to the legendary race track in Germany.
Jim Farley, who heads Ford's global marketing, was not swayed by the challenge (though it did appear he was biting his tongue slightly).
"I wish we could," he said, after hearing about Ewanick's challenge. "Who wouldn't want to do that?"


He knows his team would lose, possibly badly.

[maroman88]

sounds like ford didnt do any work on the suspension... maybe itll go straight?

[BullittSVT]

sounds like ford didnt do any work on the suspension... maybe itll go straight?

Straight into a tree.. :shifty:

[12secondv6]

That's hot

[LS1ow]

Chrylser 300C 426 ? tell me ****...

still confused as to why M-O-A-R is blocked...

[Blacdout96]

Pretty good kick in the nuts to the ZL1. I will await the track testing and such to see which one actually performs better. Unfortunately, I have the feeling most people will just see the HP number and get small man syndrome.

Adding HP to the ZL1 is easy in the aftermarket but GM would need to get some additional paperwork done and likely recertify the emissions cert. Only issue you run into is that they likely won't push power beyond the ZR1.

Fun stuff either way.

I think theres something everyones forgetting. These aren't directly from the factory cars, Shelby is building them with FoMoCo backing in this, it's essentially an aftermarket build car.

GM builds the ZR1, and ZL1 direct from the factory to the show room floor. Give Hennessey ( spell check) a little time with the new ZL1, and it'll be back on top ( though I usually don't condone to his work ethics)

I'm still waiting for GM to produce cars that need to come out the back door, and/or special RPO codes only a handful-o-people know.......but a man can only wish.

[sweetbmxrider]

I'm still waiting for GM to produce cars that need to come out the back door, and/or special RPO codes only a handful-o-people know.......but a man can only wish.

:shifty:

[BigAls87Z28]

I think theres something everyones forgetting. These aren't directly from the factory cars, Shelby is building them with FoMoCo backing in this, it's essentially an aftermarket build car.

GM builds the ZR1, and ZL1 direct from the factory to the show room floor. Give Hennessey ( spell check) a little time with the new ZL1, and it'll be back on top ( though I usually don't condone to his work ethics)

I'm still waiting for GM to produce cars that need to come out the back door, and/or special RPO codes only a handful-o-people know.......but a man can only wish.

Never gunna happen. Where is the marketing/social media impact of that? It used to be cool to do that back in the day, but unless you are showing it off on Facebook, no a **** will be given.

With that said...FE4 suspension could prove to be a good option.


Farley is related to Chris Farley, and he is also the guy that came out in a book about Ford saying "**** GM" and continued to rant about how he hates them always squeeking out of tight spots unscathed. Farley is like many long-time Ford guys, they hate GM.
Don't for one second think that Mustang team didn't pour tons of engineering hours into making sure this trumped the ZL1 and ZR1 in hp numbers just for the sake of saying WE GOT MORE BITCHES!

[Blacdout96]

http://i.imgur.com/iSNRP.png

[LTb1ow]

#win

Reps for life

[NastyEllEssWon]

this whole 4chan thing coming to njfboa is terribly annoying. keep that there /b/tards

[Blacdout96]

4chan? nah I use Reddit. And would you rather me make a simple comic, or type another one of my drole, long ass, several paragraphed post, only to be shot down by a reply using about a handful of words?

[JW]

Thread ruined for life, how not locked yet?

JW :D

[LS1ow]

repped.

[chknhwk01]

:nod: it's about time the factory muscle is here if you can't handle the power that don't buy it . Period. It's about time the killers are here, so don't be scared, the new factory cars will rule the streets all yeah. Period.:mrgreen:

[Blacdout96]

Even Europe is giving this mustang the thumbs up. Usually they are opposed of live axle cars. I think the best part of it all, is that at 650hp, they are advertising a no gas guzzler tax. try and perform that 20 years ago.

[BigAls87Z28]

http://i.imgur.com/iSNRP.png

u mad....

The first line was a joke. GM, nor Ford or anyone else, will release a car that they can't milk every last single drop of publicity out of the damn car.

I applaud Ford for the new engine, should be a ton-o-fun to drive. A few of the journos in LA were trying to figure out how this car does 200+mph when a car that is some 700lbs lighter and a **** load more aerodynamic (Z06) can't. I'm calling shens on that.

As for your opinion, soundsgoodbro.avi

[Blacdout96]

I applaud Ford for the new engine, should be a ton-o-fun to drive. A few of the journos in LA were trying to figure out how this car does 200+mph when a car that is some 700lbs lighter and a **** load more aerodynamic (Z06) can't. I'm calling shens on that.



Probably threw it on a dyno and got to 200mph. They forgot to tell people that they didn't add the resistance of the air when they came out with those numbers.

The first shot over the bow from GM was when they said to bring it to The Ring, see who's faster, and they backed down. To stand behind your work and accept the challange, but lose is one thing, but to basically admit that your shooting your mouth off too much by declining right away is another.

[WiMiMc]

Blacdout96

If i had 1,000 Upvotes to give, they'd be given to you.

[LS1ow]

#teambigal

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/18/camaro-zl1-chief-engineer-says-youre-welcome-to-ford-mustang/#continued

Camaro Nation:

As you know, the blogs lit up with the announcement of the new 650-horsepower Mustang GT500, and I wanted to give you my perspective on the latest challenge from Dearborn.

The Mustang has been playing catch up since the moment the fifth-gen Camaro arrived in 2009. Since then, Camaro has been the best-selling sports car in America, indicating that consumers know which car offers the best performance, style and safety.

It is no coincidence that Mustang has introduced three 100-horsepower increases to keep pace with Camaro: First their V-6 was bumped to 305; then their V-8 went to 412, and now the GT500.

Even with the 100-hp increase, the 2013 GT500 will still not match the technology and sophistication of the 2012 Camaro ZL1.

The days of "no replacement for displacement," are over, and it's not enough to be fast in a straight line. With the Camaro ZL1, we set out to deliver integrated performance, and be equally good at acceleration, braking, grip, and turning. As you will soon see, that's why the Camaro ZL1 will set the performance benchmark for the segment.

Our approach was to make every Camaro ZL1 fully track-capable, from the factory. As we announced today, the ZL1 Coupe will start at $54,995 with standard Magnetic Ride Control, standard Performance Traction Management, and standard track-capable equipment such as a rear-differential cooler, brake cooling ducts, and an engine and transmission cooler.

None of our customers will have to buy extra options – or modify their ZL1 – for track-day usage. That is not the case for the current GT500, or their new car.

For Mustang fans, you're welcome. Clearly the Camaro has encouraged Ford to throw everything they can at us.

For Camaro fans, trust me, we are always listening to your feedback, and working hard to keep the Camaro in the lead.

Al O.

[BigAls87Z28]

Will be very interesting. GT500 has the power to weight ratio, but Camaro has the chassis and the technology.
Nissan GTR runs faster than more powerful, lighter Porsche Turbo. Possible...

[BullittSVT]

I dislike sophistication, it means more stuff you don't want to pay for if it breaks >_>

I lol'd at this
The Mustang has been playing catch up since the moment the fifth-gen Camaro arrived in 2009. Since then, Camaro has been the best-selling sports car in America, indicating that consumers know which car offers the best performance, style and safety.

The Camaro has been playing "ketchup" since it was discontinued in 2002. It's easy to just stop a car and start from scratch if given 7 years.... I'm still a lover of the new Mustangs and hater of new Camaros.

[sweetbmxrider]

There is no replacement for displacement. GTFO NEWB

[LS1ow]

There is no replacement for displacement. GTFO NEWB

o rly

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/214216-6/supra_3.jpg

[LTb1ow]

o rly

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/214216-6/supra_3.jpg

rly
http://image.hotrod.com/f/10269295+w750+st0/hrdp_0806_extreme_01_z+ford_big_block_engine.jpg

[Jersey Mike]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3380/3213121275_9f9a0484f6.jpg









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Ninja'd.

[LS1ow]

http://www.grillwilson.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/tfaf_paul_walker_gun.gif

THREAD LOCKED

[sweetbmxrider]

No it isn't :shrug:

[LS1ow]

why is my pic not showing :(

[Blackbirdws6]

why is my pic not showing :(

Because you touch yourself.

Is anyone curious what the aftermarket will look like once these come out? We already know generally what both will be capable of but I'm curious what these cars will push with basic bolt-ons.

[LTb1ow]

Because you touch yourself.

Is anyone curious what the aftermarket will look like once these come out? We already know generally what both will be capable of but I'm curious what these cars will push with basic bolt-ons.

More than you can afford pal.

[98tadriver]

It think the biggest thing your all forgetting about is the price. You won't be seeing three of these on your way to the store. Also, where are you able to go to perform said 200mph? You'll get a couple idiots behind the wheel and wrap them around a tree, but other then that, the majority of these will be garage queens, since car collecting is a bigger deal then in the 60's and 70's.

AC expressway lol. saw some videos on youtube from a toy run a few yrs ago

[BonzoHansen]

why is my pic not showing :(

fail begets fail

[98tadriver]

Because you touch yourself.

Is anyone curious what the aftermarket will look like once these come out? We already know generally what both will be capable of but I'm curious what these cars will push with basic bolt-ons.

well based on what I've seen with most ford drivers, theyll probably run low 13s stock :lol:

[BonzoHansen]

well based on what I've seen with most ford drivers, theyll probably run low 13s stock :lol:

and their car will need a 2nd blower on the OE blower to go faster.

[98tadriver]

and their car will need a 2nd blower on the OE blower to go faster.

heheh :lol: