2013 Dodge Dart

[qwikz28]

I gotta be honest, I am super excited about this car. Dodge is releasing info ever so slowly about this car. It is supposed to be based on the Alfa Guilietta. Drivetrain info is limited, but we do know there will be Fiat's 1.4 turbo Multiair that is found in the upcoming Fiat 500 Abarth with a choice between a 6 speed dual clutch or a 9 speed auto, with the latter able to hit 40mpg.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZgyE32NvmrQ/Tt7vl749YoI/AAAAAAAGBps/zDsnyr2tQTw/s1600/2013-Dodge-Dart-_2.jpg
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And some pics of the interior:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jd2-8z9I6Fs/TubxVcpayeI/AAAAAAAGEVk/2u9pN9lBbKY/s1600/2013-Dodge-Dart-Interior-4.jpg



http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/2013-dodge-dart-interior-teasers_100373259_l.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/2013-dodge-dart-interior-teasers_100373258_l.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-USJVPOOTQBQ/TubxWAGxnCI/AAAAAAAGEVw/PYvTQa20hUk/s1600/2013-Dodge-Dart-Interior-5.jpg

Link (http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1070534_2013-dodge-dart-interior-teased-ahead-of-2012-detroit-auto-show)

What do you guys think? Official debut is at the Detroit show next year.

[WayFast84]

9 speed auto?? Jesus Christ.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

I'm still not sure why they keep bringing back old names. Seems like a decent little car with some tech thrown in.

9 speed auto?? Jesus Christ.

Literally the same exact reaction I had.

[qwikz28]

9 speed auto?? Jesus Christ.

Gotta get those MPGs man! I would opt for the dual clutch though. So cool!

[V]

I saw these pics last night and I told my roommate its like a Charger and a Evo X had a baby.

[88WS-6]

More like a Charger, a Fiat 500 and a Lite Brite.

[sweetbmxrider]

no v8 no care

[NJ346]

I've been watching all the info trickle in for the past couple of weeks. I can't wait for the live unavailing in early January.

[BullittSVT]

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w13/Davoli_bucket/hshshs.png

[BigAls87Z28]

The IP looks sick, should be a cool car. The 9spd auto though....shesh. Ford is having issues with the DCT, and IIRC this is made by the same guys.

[WildBillyT]

The IP looks sick, should be a cool car. The 9spd auto though....shesh. Ford is having issues with the DCT, and IIRC this is made by the same guys.

Whee-wuh-whee-wuh-whee-wuh-whee-wuh-whee-wuh-whee-wuh-whee-wuh-whee-wuh-whee

merging on to the highway from a stop.

No thanks.

[BonzoHansen]

it's the rolling stops that suck, like making a left. I'm finding that is the one part of the cruze I don't like. But I just slap it in manual, knock it to 1st, step on the gas and knock it back over into auto mode. Works perfect, but I should not have to.

[LS1ow]

search "dodge hornet" to get more pics. thats the name they told us all it was going to be released under. R/T model will 2.4L

[Featherburner]

I'm still not sure why they keep bringing back old names. Seems like a decent little car with some tech thrown in.



Literally the same exact reaction I had.Because they have so many to choose from...Demon, Dart, Duster, Scamp, Swinger, Valiant. Why be original when someone already did the thinking!:shrug:

[mc73nova]

They ruined the Charger name for me when they made it a sedan and now they are doing this to the Dart. They need to stop being lazy and come up with new names, stop ruining names that used to be muscle cars. I guess they figure more people will give it a look if they hear the name, might be a good car but I just dont like reusing the names. Did I mention I hate them using old names on new cars!! P.S. I want to see one of these American compacts as an AWD Turbo already.

[BullittSVT]

They ruined the Charger name for me when they made it a sedan and now they are doing this to the Dart. They need to stop being lazy and come up with new names, stop ruining names that used to be muscle cars. I guess they figure more people will give it a look if they hear the name, might be a good car but I just dont like reusing the names. Did I mention I hate them using old names on new cars!! P.S. I want to see one of these American compacts as an AWD Turbo already.

+1 on this.

[WildBillyT]

They ruined the Charger name for me when they made it a sedan and now they are doing this to the Dart. They need to stop being lazy and come up with new names, stop ruining names that used to be muscle cars. I guess they figure more people will give it a look if they hear the name, might be a good car but I just dont like reusing the names. Did I mention I hate them using old names on new cars!! P.S. I want to see one of these American compacts as an AWD Turbo already.

It's nothing new.

Remember the 5th gen Nova? Or the 80's charger? Hell, a case can be made for the Impala too.

[mc73nova]

It's nothing new.

Remember the 5th gen Nova? Or the 80's charger? Hell, a case can be made for the Impala too.

Don't even mention the Nova!!! That could be the worst rename ever. You are right but it still bothers me no matter what company does it. The only time it doesn't bother me is when they get it right, which in my eyes is the Challenger. I am not a Mopar person but I love that car.

[LTb1ow]

Or the new "camaro"

[WildBillyT]

Don't even mention the Nova!!! That could be the worst rename ever. You are right but it still bothers me no matter what company does it. The only time it doesn't bother me is when they get it right, which in my eyes is the Challenger. I am not a Mopar person but I love that car.

My original post started "Now I know you will drive down 287 and shoot me in the face for this, but..."

LOL

Personally I thought they did a good job with the 94-96 Impala SS cars.

[mc73nova]

Or the new "camaro"

I like it and its not because Im a Chevy guy, there are many vehicles they have made that I dont like! It remained a coupe, they offer nostalgic features and it has a nice powerplant. A 69 recreation, no but a muscle car none the less. When I hear Dodge Dart, I dont hink 4 doors, 4 cylinders and 40 mpg!

My original post started "Now I know you will drive down 287 and shoot me in the face for this, but..."

LOL

Personally I thought they did a good job with the 94-96 Impala SS cars.

LOL!!!! Those Impalas are nice too.


This is an example of why you shouldn't RENAME vehicles!!!!

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/lildevii136/Rad_Rides_Notorious_Nova_2.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/lildevii136/1987_chev_nova.jpg

[LS1ow]

soon as we get one ill be be sure to fill everyone in on how it handles clutch dumps.

[trashman01]

P.S. I want to see one of these American compacts as an AWD Turbo already.

Dodge Caliber SRT

[mc73nova]

Dodge Caliber SRT

FWD not AWD

[trashman01]

yea i got it messed up between the R/T and SRT , oh well its just a Mopar

[Featherburner]

They ruined the Charger name for me when they made it a sedan and now they are doing this to the Dart. They need to stop being lazy and come up with new names, stop ruining names that used to be muscle cars. I guess they figure more people will give it a look if they hear the name, might be a good car but I just dont like reusing the names. Did I mention I hate them using old names on new cars!! P.S. I want to see one of these American compacts as an AWD Turbo already.I'll take a new charger SRT8 over one of these any day! They ruined the name long before they made it a 4 door. If anything, the new Charger is rebuilding the name.

[Slow-V6]

I think the shelby charger in the 80's was a pretty bad ass car..

[Featherburner]

I think the shelby charger in the 80's was a very bad car..FTFY!

[Frosty]

I
Literally the same exact reaction I had.

...and the reaction will be even bigger when it needs to rebuilt after the warranty expires. The 8-speeds are around $6K or so.

[BigAls87Z28]

Everyone is so negative.
This should be a good car. The only real question is the powertrain and will it deliver. Ford has had issues with its DCT, as did VW when it first brought it out.
6+ gears for a small, low torque engine can do a little hunt-and-peck for gears. I can just imagine the 9spd in this thing. Realize that it is 3 more gears than a Cruze or Focus or any other car in its class?
It has FIVE more gears than a Corolla!! FIVE!

[WayFast84]

In Fords defense most of their transmissions are crap. How much do you think the extra gears add to the cost of the car? How much more likely is it for a broken trans? How much does that affect a rebuild cost? That's just some of the stuff in my head. I hope the extra 3mpg is worth it..

[BonzoHansen]

When I hear Dodge Dart, I dont hink 4 doors, 4 cylinders and 40 mpg!

When I think dodge dart I think total POS with a L6/1bbl setup with incredibly bad build quality. Total junk. Al Bundy had a Dart, it was that big a joke. Let's not wax poetic about the great name Dart.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

When I think dodge dart I think total POS with a L6/1bbl setup with incredibly bad build quality. Total junk. Al Bundy had a Dart, it was that big a joke. Let's not wax poetic about the great name Dart.

:nod: Dart was an economy car that you happened to be able to throw some cool options at.

[Featherburner]

When I hear Dodge Dart, I don't think 4 doors, 4 cylinders and 40 mpg!This is exactly what I think of when someone says Dodge Dart. My cousin had one,granted, hers had a slant 6 and got nowhere near 40mpg but you get the point.

[WildBillyT]

Everyone is so negative.
This should be a good car. The only real question is the powertrain and will it deliver. Ford has had issues with its DCT, as did VW when it first brought it out.
6+ gears for a small, low torque engine can do a little hunt-and-peck for gears. I can just imagine the 9spd in this thing. Realize that it is 3 more gears than a Cruze or Focus or any other car in its class?
It has FIVE more gears than a Corolla!! FIVE!

Yeah, that was my point.

I get that you can get crazy MPGs with triple overdrives or run a very low final drive with short 1-3 gears, but wow... 9? What's next, dual speed rear axles in pickups?

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Yeah, that was my point.

I get that you can get crazy MPGs with triple overdrives or run a very low final drive with short 1-3 gears, but wow... 9? What's next, dual speed rear axles in pickups?

Dual speed rear axles in big trucks is genius and does a lot. I'd rather see that than a 47 speed transmission.

[Slow-V6]

FTFY!

Bad ass cars.. All of the 80's Shelby cars were very cool cars for there time. Maybe its a generation thing but for me I would much rather have a 80's Shelby charger then a old school Charger. Just like I would rather have a 4th Gen f-body then a 1st gen or a 04-06 GTO then a 60's GTO.

[Slow-V6]

This is exactly what I think of when someone says Dodge Dart. My cousin had one,granted, hers had a slant 6 and got nowhere near 40mpg but you get the point.

To me that is ugly..

[Featherburner]

Bad ass cars.. All of the 80's Shelby cars were very cool cars for there time. Maybe its a generation thing but for me I would much rather have a 80's Shelby charger then a old school Charger. Just like I would rather have a 4th Gen f-body then a 1st gen or a 04-06 GTO then a 60's GTO.It must be a generation thing because there was nothing cool about the 80's Chargers. They were and still are complete and utter garbage!

To me that is ugly..I never said it was good looking.

[BonzoHansen]

80's Chargers = souped up k-cars!

[qwikz28]

Everyone is so negative.
This should be a good car. The only real question is the powertrain and will it deliver. Ford has had issues with its DCT, as did VW when it first brought it out.
6+ gears for a small, low torque engine can do a little hunt-and-peck for gears. I can just imagine the 9spd in this thing. Realize that it is 3 more gears than a Cruze or Focus or any other car in its class?
It has FIVE more gears than a Corolla!! FIVE!

But VW really ironed it out and it is amazing from what I hear. I also have heard that much of the complaints about the Ford are that people are simply just not used to it. I wish I had a Focus to drive and check out for myself.

[BigAls87Z28]

In Fords defense most of their transmissions are crap. How much do you think the extra gears add to the cost of the car? How much more likely is it for a broken trans? How much does that affect a rebuild cost? That's just some of the stuff in my head. I hope the extra 3mpg is worth it..

40mpg is the name of the game. If your car doesn't offer a 40mpg car or better, you better be Toyota. The Big 3 can no longer look to be behind the 8 ball when it comes to vehicle tech. Time to push forward.

[NJ Torque]

The 7 speed trans' in the Infinitis people do nothing but complain. . .And those are $11,000 , warranty price.

[WayFast84]

The 7 speed trans' in the Infinitis people do nothing but complain. . .And those are $11,000 , warranty price.

:shock:I was mad at the price of a tick stage 3!:shock:

[Frosty]

It must be a generation thing because there was nothing cool about the 80's Chargers. They were and still are complete and utter garbage!



This x10000000000000000000000000000000

There's nothing cool about them, at all.

[Noodles]

Too late to the show. The Fiesta, Focus, and Sonic are way ahead of this.

[Syzygy]

When I think dodge dart I think total POS with a L6/1bbl setup with incredibly bad build quality. Total junk. Al Bundy had a Dart, it was that big a joke. Let's not wax poetic about the great name Dart.

Excuse me, but Al's car rolled 1,000,000 miles in season 8.

[NastyEllEssWon]

http://photos2.leftlanenews.com/photos/content/september2011/thumbnailsnew/dodge-hornet-1_1035.jpg




looks pretty damn cool if you ask me!

[BigAls87Z28]

Too late to the show. The Fiesta, Focus, and Sonic are way ahead of this.

Dart goes against Cruze, Focus, Elantra, Civic, 3, Corolla, aaaaannd...Sentra.