My plans for a 3rd gen f-body that makes no sense

[greenformula92]

Ok this is thinking a little bit out of the box considering how most people either go carburated or TPI. But to make a more budget friendly build overall I have settled on a TBI build thats a little.....well different

I want something that will be reliable, fun to drive, run on pump gas and run well.

Here are my plans as itemized.

PLAN (revised)
334 TBI using the factory rebuildable engine
Have 081 heads I have cleaned and opened up a little as well as port matching
Headers and Y-pipe
Custom Dual exhaust using SLP LM1 style resonators (this is subject to change)
Performance lower manifold with EGR provision
Holley Throttle Body/have factory TBI unit rebult/ported
bigger injectors
LT4 hot cam or equal
LCA's
Panhard rod
Panhard rod relocation (this is if I decide to run true dual exhaust)
Torque arm
Wander bar
Sub frame connectors
Eibach Springs
Struts and shocks
Disc rear, 3.42 gear or 3.23
Custom made factory appearing "RS 327" decals

[L695speed]

Most that that doesn't seem to be completely crazy. I know another guy on a different forum who is building an old 327 out of a chevelle or vette, to put in his 82. Hes almost done and probably getting ready to install it. But still you're right, why would someone do such a thing? lol.

I don't know if the thread is still on here, but I had the absolutely insane idea of doing another car like the Pegasus show car that was done in the 70s. An updated version of it. That was a 70 Firebird with a Ferrari drivetrain. I was thinking of taking a third gen bird (a 89 or so TA or GTA variant) getting a Ferrari 550 or 575 driveline, stuff it in there. It does have precedent as GM did it in the 70s, but will it happen, I highly doubt it. If you look around on thirdgen.org, there are people doing Viper engine swaps.......

[WildBillyT]

Buy 88-WS6's car. Just needs an engine rebuild.

[Featherburner]

327 TBI using the factory rebuildable engine

What factory rebuildable engine? An old 327?

[deadtrend1]

I dunno how much the swirl port heads will flow after work has been done to them. I would look aftermarket at least

[zraffz]

Swirl Ports and 327 = fail.
The only thing a 327 would be good for is building a screamer... the swirl ports will surely ruin that.

[greenformula92]

Well I kinda fubared this anyway because I can't bore a 305 block to 4 inches. so i wouldn't be able to make a real 327. Eagle makes a 334 rotating assembly using a .030 over piston. Oh and I just remembered I do have a set of LB9 081 heads laying around so I can use them instead of the swirl ports.

Featherburner, I plan to use the factory 305 block

[Featherburner]

Featherburner, I plan to use the factory 305 blockDo you have 3.25" stroke crank?

[greenformula92]

Do you have 3.25" stroke crank?

featherburner I am in the planning stages right now, the only thing I have in my pocession is the 081 heads. I am still looking for a car to carry this out on

[Tru2Chevy]

The old high-revving 327s are a completely different animal than the 305s. You can stroke a 305 to 334 (as you have already seen), but very few people waste the money.

- Justin

[Featherburner]

Get 305, pull the rods and crank out. Throw everything else away! Put rods and crank after machining in a freshly machined 350 block with 30 over pistons and enjoy a 355. Done!

[greenformula92]

The old high-revving 327s are a completely different animal than the 305s. You can stroke a 305 to 334 (as you have already seen), but very few people waste the money.

- Justin

I don't see it as a waste, I see it as different, Im not looking to build a monster or a strip car. I am looking to build something that is just fun to drive. I think a 334 would be fun. It would make nice power and not entirely break the bank. I am not looking to be making crazy numbers, just some nice streetable pump gas numbers

[BonzoHansen]

cost wise building a 1 pc 350 block would be about the same money.

Different is ok though

[88WS-6]

Buy 88-WS6's car. Just needs an engine rebuild.

Yea what he said.

[greenformula92]

Yea what he said.

LOL I was waiting for you to chime in. You have a nice car and I like it but right now you a little out of my budget on a price for a car at the moment

[greenformula92]

ok so I bought my my starting point last night. It's a 92 RS Camaro 305 TBI automatic with 116,XXX miles. One of the trans cooler lines is leaking bad so ther transmisson won't do anything. I might get lucky if I replace the lines, drop the pan and do a filter and fill it back up. If it works I got a great deal. So my plan as of right now is to fix it and see what else it needs and get it driveable and then go from there.

Pictures are to follow. I have to go take them LOL

[maroman88]

nice, what color?

[greenformula92]

Dark Mettalic Purple

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

87-92 TBI T-top f body
5 Speed car
Body has to be decent, Paint condition no biggie, as long as its not yellow or purple


Dark Mettalic Purple

:lol:

Oh the irony. I say keep the color though.

[chrisfrom nj]

i will pick tbi over tpi any day of the week its more simple to work on

[maroman88]

:lol:

Oh the irony. I say keep the color though.

lol that is a nice color

[greenformula92]

:lol:

Oh the irony. I say keep the color though.

Lol I know. I was really reffering to the bright purple. The darker purple really grew on me

Pics will be up tonight

[greenformula92]

Pictures as promised

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?p=819297#post819297

[88WS-6]

Nice. Good luck with it.

[greenformula92]

Got some done on it today. first order of business was to get it in the garage, that was a workout let me tell ya. Then I got the hood off of it to make things a little easier. that hood will not be going back on the car. Ill be picking up a standard cowl hood at some point. then since the hood cable was stretched like no tomorrow and I had to unbolt the hood latch to get under the hood to begin with I pulled that out. and since the dash pad was so messed up and ill be getting another good one I pulled that too. so all in all a fairly productive day. I would have got the car up in the air but my floor jack decided that today was going to be the day it would leak all the fluid out so time for a new jack

[greenformula92]

Got the hood latch and cable in today, got a like new dash pad. I forgot to take a picture of that. Got the old crusty trans cooler lines out and new to me less crusty lines in, filled her up with trans fluid, changed the oil and fired her up, checked for leaks, filled the fluid to the hot line and pulled her out of the garage under her own power. Now I have to title it and take it for a ride and see if its got all the gears. It is idling higher than I would like and it definatly needs a tune up and a cat back exhaust but she runs and moves under her own power. I am a happy man :)

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/hoofin86/92%20RS/2012-03-18_18-48-46_500.jpg
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/hoofin86/92%20RS/2012-03-18_18-49-09_654.jpg

[greenformula92]

Took out the IAC and cleaned it tonight. Might have a vac leak but not sure. Didn't want to run for prolonged amount of time looking for it with it being close to 10PM and all

[ZeroCool8891]

nice mike, teddy told me you got this, good luck with it. i also have some proformance tbi parts ill pm you my info.

[greenformula92]

nice mike, teddy told me you got this, good luck with it. i also have some proformance tbi parts ill pm you my info.

PM replied Dave. and thanks for the good luck

[greenformula92]

Got a lot done today and more is on the plan for tomorrow. Here is what I got done today.

New Plugs, Wires, Cap and Rotor. I swapped in a new distributor because I believed my idling and running issues were attributed to a bad pick-up coil and a failing ICM. Set timing to spec. She is running great right now so I believe I have my running issues ironed out. Also got the hood back on and lined up the right way. Tomorrow she is going to get a cooling system re vamp to include a radiator, hoses, water pump, thermostat and a new resivior tank. Then I will be ready to title it and take her for a ride, then the only things left for me to do is wheels, headliner, exhaust system, because there isn't one at the moment, and a stereo of some sort. So far she is coming along very well and I am happy with the progress at this point.

[maroman88]

very nice man! sounds like ur guna have a nice camaro to enjoy this summer

[greenformula92]

well today didn't go so smooth. I won't go into my dumb ass mistake that is going to cost me a little money but 2 of the 4 water pump pulley bolts would not come out. I used the impact to get 2 out but the other 2 the socket slipped on and stripped the heads. so I swapped the water pump but basically stopped there because there is no sense on going further if the pump doesn't have a pulley

[greenformula92]

got everything buttoned up tonight but had no coolant so i will check for leaks after I pick up some coolant. Ordered the OBX racing cat back. figured I would give it a shot since they make the exhaust that I have on my legacy and the quaility is really nice and i am happy with it so i figured i would give it a shot.

[greenformula92]

got coolant in it and no leaks, bu the CTS is no good, no biggie its a cheap fix. Also scored a new gear shift knob on ebay and I am going to take a chance with the OBX-R cat back exhaust. I have the exhaust OBX makes for my legacy to the quaility should be the same and I am happy that one is holding up as well as it is. If I don't like how its sounds I can always swap the muffler.

Other than that no other updates for now

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

CTS? check something solenoid?

[WildBillyT]

CTS? check something solenoid?

Coolant temperature sensor. Maybe you'd know it if it was on a jet ski? :mrgreen:

[greenformula92]

Coolant temperature sensor. Maybe you'd know it if it was on a jet ski? :mrgreen:

what he said

[greenformula92]

CTS replaced, running really good. still have a SES light but could be for EVAP? since I have that vac line blocked still. maybe ill get that line tomorrow morning

[quickkris2006]

if u need any interior parts for this let me know i have about 2 1/2 cars worth.. ive been on here for a few years just havent posted much.. im more on ls1tech and thirdgen.org.. the parts will be in east brunswick.. ill give you a whole clean interior for cheap just to get rid of it .. also have 4th gen tan parts such as t/a seats.. i just want it out of my way.. let me know what u want/need.. email me here armyracerws6@yahoo.com


also have a 305 tbi motor minus the tbi stuff from my 91 convertible i had.. cylinder walls are in amazing shape.. best running car i owned.. took it out to do a lt1 swap and ended up getting a 86 ta instead.. motor had 120k on it.. want it out of my way.. like now.. let me know if ur interested.. i can do a package deal cheap to get it out of the way.. also have some camaro body parts and wheels just need to look threw what i have

[greenformula92]

got the last vac line repaired this morning and went to dmv to title it. then moved it out of the garage and snapped a couple pics. Exhaust should be here on wednesday.

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/hoofin86/92%20RS/2012-04-07_10-16-12_531.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/hoofin86/92%20RS/2012-04-07_10-15-15_515.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/hoofin86/92%20RS/2012-04-07_10-15-02_190.jpg

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/hoofin86/92%20RS/2012-04-07_10-15-36_870.jpg

[greenformula92]

I got some good news and bad news. I'll go with the good news first.

NEW WHEELS :)

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/hoofin86/92%20RS/2012-04-12_08-39-57_97.jpg
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu269/hoofin86/92%20RS/2012-04-12_08-40-15_977.jpg


Bad news is trans doesn't have third and fourth upon my test drive. first and second are great but no third and fourth so time to find another 700R4. really not in the mood to swap out a trans at the moment

[88WS-6]

Nice wheels. I would have sold you mine except that I have nothing else to put on the car. Are you planning to rebuild the 700R4 or swap?

[greenformula92]

I will be swapping it out. Will likely have it swapped because my shoulders have absolutely been killing me the whole time I have been working on it and I need to rest my shoulders a little. I have the ability and the tools but im not into being in that much pain right now

[quickkris2006]

if u want the trans swapped i got a guy that will do it cheaply let me know.. probably only run u like 200 ish? plus supplys ... hes building my car..

[greenformula92]

got it covered. thanks for the offer kris. next updates will be the trans in and exhaust on. which I will have to open the OBX box and take some pics for you guys

[greenformula92]

Change of plans. I found something I absolutely have to have. Will be using this car as a partial trade. Pics will come in a seperate thread when the deal is done