lt1 headers

[Italian Stallion]

ive been searching around and heard the best bang for the buck was the long tube pacesetters. but ive heard the paint burns right off and smells awful while doing so. any suggestions? ebay? ws6 store?

[Italian Stallion]

i think these are the cheapest i could find them...http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/catalog/93-97-lt1-pacesetter-longtube-headers-painted-/

[coolmanvette75]

I run the pacesetter uncoated headers. I bought them used for $150 shipped and they were painted with 2000* high temp paint. There is a little surface rust but after a year I am still happy with my purchase...

[Italian Stallion]

I run the pacesetter uncoated headers. I bought them used for $150 shipped and they were painted with 2000* high temp paint. There is a little surface rust but after a year I am still happy with my purchase...

yeah i wish i could find a deal like that :evil: performance and clearance wise how are they?

[sweetbmxrider]

Most all long tubes will give you issues and there are ways to resolve them. I prefer stainless steel headers but they can get expensive for good quality ones that won't turn to hell in a few months. Plenty of cheapos on ebay too.

[deadtrend1]

Do you care about passing inspection? What power are you planning to make?

[Italian Stallion]

Most all long tubes will give you issues and there are ways to resolve them. I prefer stainless steel headers but they can get expensive for good quality ones that won't turn to hell in a few months. Plenty of cheapos on ebay too.

Well for the issues i wouldn't mind cause id be bringing it to a shop. And is it true thr ebays wouldnt fit to the stock k member? Are there different performance gains from stainless steel?

[Italian Stallion]

Do you care about passing inspection? What power are you planning to make?

Inspection is not a problem. And just basics, intake, exhaust, headers, tune, nd soon enough cam.

[sweetbmxrider]

The stainless doesn't rust to hell, it discolors. Pending what grade stainless you get will determine how bad they will dull out and discolor or not. Stock k does require some cutting and they come close to the frame for some people. You have to move the steering column over via the three bolts inside the car and just reuse the two slotted ones. I would throw in new poly motor and trans mounts too for clearance help. Get some quality arp header bolts, I believe the 1 inch is what you want with the half inch flanges the stainless headers have.

[Italian Stallion]

The stainless doesn't rust to hell, it discolors. Pending what grade stainless you get will determine how bad they will dull out and discolor or not. Stock k does require some cutting and they come close to the frame for some people. You have to move the steering column over via the three bolts inside the car and just reuse the two slotted ones. I would throw in new poly motor and trans mounts too for clearance help. Get some quality arp header bolts, I believe the 1 inch is what you want with the half inch flanges the stainless headers have.

Any link ups to where i could find the.bolts?

[sweetbmxrider]

ARP 400-1209

Smaller head for better clearance around the primaries, 1" long, and stainless steel.

[JSPERFORMANCE]

Stainless Works makes an absolutely fantastic set of stainless steel headers for the LT1 cars. They fit like a dream and require no modifications to the stock K member or anything else to fit in.. Plus the ground clearance is much better than the Pacesetters and other "cheaper" manufacturers.

We a dealer for SW so we could do install and tuning for you as well so all you would have to do is drop off the car (no parts hunting necessary).

[grazi]

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$1290.00

[Italian Stallion]

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$1290.00

Whoa.:shock:

[JSPERFORMANCE]

The quality speaks for itself.. You get what you pay for..

Personally I don't like the look of rusty headers under my hood.. Coating only delays the enevitable...

[Italian Stallion]

The quality speaks for itself.. You get what you pay for..

Personally I don't like the look of rusty headers under my hood.. Coating only delays the enevitable...

I bet. I just don't have that kinda changee.

[Slow-V6]

I have BBK Long Tubes on my LS1 car and they are Chrome. They have been on the car for 15 months now and have no rust of any sorts. They cost around 350.00 from WS6 store I believe and came with a Y-pipe as well. Stock ride height and no scraping issues. Dont know if they make them for LT1's.

[Tru2Chevy]

WS6Store shows only shorty BBKs for the LT1s (for $400).

Jeff - could you post a pic of those headers as they look on the car now? Not trying to deny your no rust claim by any means, just never had a chance to see what a set of these look like after being on a car for a while.

- Justin

[Slow-V6]

Yeah. I can take a pic of them tomorrow. Keep in mind that my car is garaged and only gets driven on the weekends.. I have put about 4000 miles on it this past year. I have taken it out during the winter and have been out in rain storms as well. When I wash it I pretty much always clean the engine bay and under the car..

[Italian Stallion]

Yeah. I can take a pic of them tomorrow. Keep in mind that my car is garaged and only gets driven on the weekends.. I have put about 4000 miles on it this past year. I have taken it out during the winter and have been out in rain storms as well. When I wash it I pretty much always clean the engine bay and under the car..

Id love to see a pic too. Thanks

[Slow-V6]

Id love to see a pic too. Thanks


No problem.. After work I will swing by the garage and snap some photos..

[zraffz]

http://store.mvpautoparts.com/pacesetter-headers-70-2239-for-93-97-camaro-firebird-5.7l-lt1-long-tube-race-w-o-air-inj.-or-egr.html

Knocked another $20 off + free shipping... cheapest I could find.

[shadowfire]

I have BBK Long Tubes on my LS1 car and they are Chrome. They have been on the car for 15 months now and have no rust of any sorts. They cost around 350.00 from WS6 store I believe and came with a Y-pipe as well. Stock ride height and no scraping issues. Dont know if they make them for LT1's.

i have bbk longs as well no rust after two years

[Slow-V6]

Driver side pics. Its from my phone..

[Slow-V6]

1st pick is Driver side and the nxt 2 are passenger. Sorry about the quality. The pics do no justice. These headers still look brand new. They are the chrome ones and were under 400.00 from WS6 store and that includes y-pipe..

[FlyingDutchman]

I have BBK Long Tubes on my LS1 car and they are Chrome. They have been on the car for 15 months now and have no rust of any sorts. They cost around 350.00 from WS6 store I believe and came with a Y-pipe as well. Stock ride height and no scraping issues. Dont know if they make them for LT1's.

http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/catalog/95-97-lt1-bbk-1-5-8-headers-chrome-/

$395.95 includes hardware but I don't think y-pipe too (at least I don't see anything)

Edit: those are shortys my bad =P didn't see LTs

[Slow-V6]

Here are the ones I have.. They will probably be a little more exspensive for the LT1 as most stuff is..


http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/catalog/98-02-ls1-bbk-full-length-header-system-chrome-/

[bigz28man]

just curious because i just put headers on my new motor, but what does everyone think about hooker? I went with the hooker super comp lt headers into a ory pipe, to a slp loudmouth I system.

[WildBillyT]

just curious because i just put headers on my new motor, but what does everyone think about hooker? I went with the hooker super comp lt headers into a ory pipe, to a slp loudmouth I system.

Yikes. I would be worried about the rasp and drone vs. the header brand.

[Italian Stallion]

http://store.mvpautoparts.com/pacesetter-headers-70-2239-for-93-97-camaro-firebird-5.7l-lt1-long-tube-race-w-o-air-inj.-or-egr.html

Knocked another $20 off + free shipping... cheapest I could find.

yeah..those are the cheapest if seen. thanks man

[greenformula92]

just curious because i just put headers on my new motor, but what does everyone think about hooker? I went with the hooker super comp lt headers into a ory pipe, to a slp loudmouth I system.

Thats HAS to be loud. I guess i'll know when you drive past me lol

[deadtrend1]

yeah..those are the cheapest if seen. thanks man

you know those have no EGR and AIR right?

[LTb1ow]

you know those have no EGR and AIR right?

Other than having to have them tuned out, in the overall scheme of things, does it really matter? Having em on longtubes, just seems ironic. :rofl:

[deadtrend1]

I thought it would matter to the fact that a tune would add to the cost. My mistake ...

[LTb1ow]

Well since its a OBD2 car and 02 deletes are kinda hard to find these days, I just assumed a tune was needed anyway, but you're right, I'm wrong, sorry. Glad you fixed it all up

[deadtrend1]

Dont know what you are getting at by saying "i fixed it up". But ill shut up now, and let the experts handle it.

[Slow-V6]

I had some O2 sims on my car before I got a tune. Sold them a year ago. I believe I picked them up on Tech for like 20.00..

[sweetbmxrider]

Leave the solenoid plugged in and you won't throw a code. Disconnect air pump and you won't throw a code. Tune free modding!

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Edit: Just saw its a 97, I think only 95 and older can get away with this.

[Frosty]

Other than having to have them tuned out, in the overall scheme of things, does it really matter? Having em on longtubes, just seems ironic. :rofl:

Not really ironic or anything of the sort if you want to stay legal...technically he fails inspection and some places won't think twice of failing him. What if he moves to a different state that has a bunch of smog nazi's?

Yeah....how dare someone throw some other perspective into the mix lol

[LTb1ow]

Not really ironic or anything of the sort if you want to stay legal...technically he fails inspection and some places won't think twice of failing him. What if he moves to a different state that has a bunch of smog nazi's?

Yeah....how dare someone throw some other perspective into the mix lol

Any state of the grand ole US of A will automatically fail for longtubes, its a federal offense to move cats from their stock locations, so having EGR/AIR is plain silly. If they are looking hard enough to find them, then they will know that long tubes are illegal.

Granted, I guess if he ever needed to swap back in manifolds, then sure, leaving EGR/AIR would be beneficial. Perspective, achieved. Just stay stock.