Is it worth downsizing from a full size to compact pickup?

[NJ346]

So with gas where it's at, I'm starting to consider selling my truck. It's a 99 Silverado Extended Cab with the vortec 5300. Normally gas wouldn't bother me because my commute was always less than 10 miles but this summer I have a real job and will be commuting 100 miles a day. I need something that has towing capability, so I still want to stay in a truck, just something that gets better gas mileage. The only problem is, the smaller trucks I'm looking at(Tacoma's, Frontiers, Rangers, ext,) don't seem to be all that impressive with their MPG ratings.

If I were to sell my truck, this is the goals I'd be looking for:
-Ability to tow ~3000 lbs
-4x4
-back seat
-22+ hwy mpg

[JL8Jeff]

I don't know if you'll be able to get 22+ mpg and tow 3000 lbs comfortably and have 4x4 with too many vehicles. I've been able to get around 18-19 mpg with my short bed reg cab 01 Z71 on highway trips. With a manual transmission and upgrading to electric fans from the factory clutch fan you might get close to 20-22 mpg. I don't think the V6 pickups will be able to tow 3000 lbs easily and you would probably still need a manual trans to get the 22 mpg. Maybe a V6 pickup with a supercharger will be able to tow and get the highway mpg, but then you might have trouble staying out of the throttle.:nod:

[LTb1ow]

Dmax with efilive tune, +20mpg highway.

[79T/A]

Are you going to be towing that much weight FOR work? If so, you won't see any benefit in fuel economy.

Whether you're towing or not, with that much mileage daily, you're going to be hating life in ANY truck. My commute is 86 miles round trip, five days a week, in a 2002 VW Jetta wagon that gets 28-30 mpg. With a 13 gallon tank, I STILL have to fuel up every three days at about $40 per fill.

Just a thought from someone who's been there, but judging by the term "real job" and the Rutgers avatar, I'm just guessing you're in school and either starting out in the "real" world come graduation, or just working a summer job. If it's the start of your career, you may want to consider getting something better on gas for commuting and save for something used to tow around whatever toy is around 3000 pounds. If it's just a summer job, you need to decide if you want to spend most of the money you earn on fuel. Sorry...old man's perspective. The other option would be a 6 cylinder truck, but like I said...gas will suck anyway.

[NJ346]

I'm just guessing you're in school and either starting out in the "real" world come graduation, or just working a summer job. If it's the start of your career, you may want to consider getting something better on gas for commuting and save for something used to tow around whatever toy is around 3000 pounds. If it's just a summer job, you need to decide if you want to spend most of the money you earn on fuel. Sorry...old man's perspective. The other option would be a 6 cylinder truck, but like I said...gas will suck anyway.

I planned on a 6 cylinder truck and threw the 3000lb towing capacity out there. Realistically it would need to be able to tow say 1500 lbs every now and then. And yes, I'm still in college and this summer I have an internship which is why I have the long commute.

Jeff- I didn't even think about the electric fan conversion. I will look into it. Basically if I could somehow squeeze 20 mpg outta this truck it would be enough for me to consider keeping it.

Another option: I could keep the truck and split driving with my camaro. Even with the H/C package it gets 23 mpg but the car has minimal rock chips on it and I really would like to keep miles off it if I can. It also doesn't have AC.

[wretched73]

Why not look into getting some really cheap/crap civic? im sure you could spend less than a grand and get one that will survive a summer that you can resell come september and make most of your money back

This option would be what i would go for, granted if i had the money to drop on another vehicle

EDIT: http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/2968895686.html its ugly as sin but it would do its job...

[coolmanvette75]

Why not look into getting some really cheap/crap civic? im sure you could spend less than a grand and get one that will survive a summer that you can resell come september and make most of your money back

This option would be what i would go for, granted if i had the money to drop on another vehicle

EDIT: http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/2968895686.html its ugly as sin but it would do its job...

This is exactly what I did. Got a 2002 civic for $900. 31mpg all city driving. Liability only insurance is only like an additional $50 a month too...

[NJ346]

Why not look into getting some really cheap/crap civic? im sure you could spend less than a grand and get one that will survive a summer that you can resell come september and make most of your money back

This option would be what i would go for, granted if i had the money to drop on another vehicle

EDIT: http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/2968895686.html its ugly as sin but it would do its job...

I already have 2 vehicles. I had 3 for a while and it's just useless imo. I'm trying to set myself up for the future. I don't want a temporary fix. I've wanted to keep the silverado until atleast the end of college(2 more years), so if I replace it I'd like to replace it with something that I could count on to do the same/meet the versatility of my current truck.

[townsend]

i was driving my father in-laws '03 silverado 1500 ext. cab 4x4 z71 with the tow package and 4.8l back and forth from phillipsburg to fairfield (150 miles round trip) every day, with the tune, cai, headers and full exhaust i was averaging almost 23-24 babying it windows down no ac cruise set to 70. i couldnt believe it but its true. that truck still gets great mileage now on the highway with meatier tires (21-22mpg) if you baby it at 65. also depends on what gas you run. i dont care what anyone says it does matter, the ethanol crap eats your mileage away. i only run shell now since i worked at a few different gas stations plus drive company vehicles and saw my mileage dissappear with crap gas in my workvan. just throwing it out there.

plus i can still tow a ton of weight with that truck and get not too bad for a little 4.8l fuel mileage

get a tune in it the 5.3l should do better since its more motor for the same weight.

[wretched73]

I already have 2 vehicles. I had 3 for a while and it's just useless imo. I'm trying to set myself up for the future. I don't want a temporary fix. I've wanted to keep the silverado until atleast the end of college(2 more years), so if I replace it I'd like to replace it with something that I could count on to do the same/meet the versatility of my current truck.

IMO meeting in the middle like you are trying to do is a poor decision. I think you will be unsatisfied with the couple more MPGs you gain when you realize all of the versatility you lost with a full size. And to be honest, youre in college, college kids need temp fixes, in a perfect world you could set yourself up for what you need in the future right now, but you dont know what youre gonna need, if you wanna trailer that camaro in the future a compact truck aint gonna cut it

These are just my opinions on what I'd do. I have my project camaro, a silverado, and commute to college. I originally wanted a compact so i could haul my go kart and quad around but i went with a full size because i do a lot of scrapping along with some towing time to time so it made more sense in my situation

[greenformula92]

cheap commuter is a good way to go. chances are that when your done with it you will recoop your money. the other option is to do some upgrades to the truck to free up some MPG's

[DaSkinnyGuy]

Drive slower.

[sweetbmxrider]

You can tow your jetski with your camaro.

[Stevoone]

If you absolutely need a truck I would keep the one you have unless you need to free up cash. I sold my Ram 1500 to pay off my wife's jeep, I really never did "truck" stuff with it so I don't really miss it. My short term plan didn't turn out so great and I ended up spending more money to fix my replacement vehicle.

I used to average about 18-19 on the highway with the Hemi and about 12-13 around town. My dad recently bought a Ranger (2005ish) and he gets an average 16mpg.

[LTb1ow]

Just as an FYI, Josh (jerzlt1) is pulling down 20mpg average with a 2500 diesel, just tuned, my 2500 with bolt ons does 17mpg average and that is strictly around town.

If you can't get your gasser to do above 20mpg, you drive it to fast. How much would a free flowing exhaust and economy tune run ya?

[r0nin89]

Keep your truck, buy a cheap sport bike, ride it when its nice and watch the numbers balance out.

Just a thought. The compact pickup trucks are on their way out. The colorado and maybe the frontier/equator are the closest things. Ranger will be over after this or next year (or maybe already gone? not sure). Tacoma and Dakota are mid size trucks now and you might as well be in a fullsize.

[greenformula92]

Ranger is gone already. Next Dakota and Colorado will be a uni-body. you basically have two choices for a good mid-size and that is the Tacoma and the Frontier

[WiMiMc]

They have to be new?

In my extended cab 4.3 S10 I'm getting 20-21 City. No real highway numbers.

I have a Z85 which has the increased towing capacity.

I noticed you want a backseat. Theres a guy on the S10forum with a crew cab thats getting about the same mileage as me.

I would love a Holden Colorado..

[NJ346]

If you can't get your gasser to do above 20mpg, you drive it to fast. How much would a free flowing exhaust and economy tune run ya?

Already has a flowmaster muffler on it. Idk if the flowmaster on the trucks get the same reviews as the ones for the LS cars though. I'll have to see about a tune though.

[BonzoHansen]

So 100 miles@day x 5 days x 12 weeks (summer) = 6000 miles

Some quick math:
miles 6000 6000
mpg 22 15
gallons 272.7 400
$@gal 4 4
Cost 1090 1600

So how much effort and cost do you want to put into save ~$510?

keep tire psi high, use your cruise control to stay near the speed limit, lighten up on the throttle off lights.

[wretched73]

Already has a flowmaster muffler on it. Idk if the flowmaster on the trucks get the same reviews as the ones for the LS cars though. I'll have to see about a tune though.

I got a black bear performance tune. Its awesome. And only $200

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

No, it will not be worth it. You will not gain much in the way of fuel efficiency, and going nuts won't save you much, as Scott did. Luckily I saw his post before I had to do my own calculations :lol:

[WildBillyT]

So 100 miles@day x 5 days x 12 weeks (summer) = 6000 miles

Some quick math:
miles 6000 6000
mpg 22 15
gallons 272.7 400
$@gal 4 4
Cost 1090 1600

So how much effort and cost do you want to put into save ~$510?

keep tire psi high, use your cruise control to stay near the speed limit, lighten up on the throttle off lights.

Beat me to it. You may be really over thinking this. A beat box beater is totally NOT worth it, as the first time it breaks down you are probably throwing all of your savings out the door.

[NJ346]

So 100 miles@day x 5 days x 12 weeks (summer) = 6000 miles

Some quick math:
miles 6000 6000
mpg 22 15
gallons 272.7 400
$@gal 4 4
Cost 1090 1600

So how much effort and cost do you want to put into save ~$510?

keep tire psi high, use your cruise control to stay near the speed limit, lighten up on the throttle off lights.

You know I totally agree with you and I had done the math before making this thread. It's just recently I've had family members trying to convince me it's the right idea. I think I will look into a tune and possibly the electric fans and be happy with 18-19 mpg.

[WildBillyT]

You know I totally agree with you and I had done the math before making this thread. It's just recently I've had family members trying to convince me it's the right idea. I think I will look into a tune and possibly the electric fans and be happy with 18-19 mpg.

Being a car guy I'm sure you probably stay up on your maintenance but as Scott said make sure your air pressures are high, your air filter is clean, etc.

[1320B4U]

My rational is: my jeep is paid off for even though it gets 16mpg...if i bought a new cruze, i'd be paying 300/month+ and gas....cheaper to keep my paid off vehicle w/crappy gas mileage. Can't have it all though..i tried...its the 75% rule....my vehcile has to:

be good in the snow-check
good on gas-nope
be able to tow-check
haul 4+ adults/roomy interior-check
...if your car fills 75% off this category, its the best your going to get. I was thinking sti wagon, but they can't tow for *****...always comes back to the 75% rule...lol.

[Mike]

my sierra gets 17ish with just exhaust, hopefully doing e-fans and a tune this summer and hope to be getting around 20 too...

if you honestly plan on towing, you shouldn't downsize. the increased wear and tear on the small truck by towing with it will offset all the money you save by its gas mileage when you aren't towing anything.

you will use MORE gas when actually towing, you will kill the trans and kill the brakes and it just won't be as easy and nice to drive...

[NJ346]

my sierra gets 17ish with just exhaust, hopefully doing e-fans and a tune this summer and hope to be getting around 20 too...

if you honestly plan on towing, you shouldn't downsize. the increased wear and tear on the small truck by towing with it will offset all the money you save by its gas mileage when you aren't towing anything.

you will use MORE gas when actually towing, you will kill the trans and kill the brakes and it just won't be as easy and nice to drive...

I don't really plan on towing much or long of a distance so I think a smaller truck would be fine. At this point I think I'll just keep the truck and get a tune. What route did you plan going with efans? Just gonna use f body fans?

[Mike]

My plan is f body fans with the black bear harness and tune.

[WiMiMc]

a tonneau cover would help on the highway too

[WildBillyT]

a tonneau cover would help on the highway too

I was going to say this, but it's been debunked via drag testing. There's a benefit but you have to drive for a long time.

[91chevywt]

Is it worth it? Yes, if you can satisfy your requirements. My DD has been an '06 4 cyl ranger automatic, it's rated to tow about 2300# since it has 4.10 gears, and gets 27 MPG highway, have seen a best of 32 MPG 100% highway. Only way to get good MPG in a compact is with a 4 cyl truck, the V6 trucks may be lucky to get 20 mpg. I still have a old full-size that I use strictly for truck stuff/hauling, put maybe 1000 miles on it per year, have about $3000 into it including the $800 I paid for it.

Only way to be better off in the end is by selling current truck and buying something cheaper, in the end making money off the deal. You may be better off in the end just sticking with what you know, though. But it's definitely possible to come out ahead by doing the research. Buying new definitely won't get you there.

[NJ346]

Only way to be better off in the end is by selling current truck and buying something cheaper, in the end making money off the deal. You may be better off in the end just sticking with what you know, though. But it's definitely possible to come out ahead by doing the research. Buying new definitely won't get you there.

Yea, i agree. I never intended to buy new. My plan was to sell/trade my current truck for a smaller one without having to spend any cash. I'm probably just going to get a tune and do e-fans and see what I can get out of it.

[wretched73]

+1 for the tune, im in love with my black bear tune, it just makes it harder to stay out of the throttle

[2kblackgtp]

Anybody suggest a Colorado with the 5.3 in it? 300hp 4x4 in a small truck that can tow 3500lbs, IIRC they get 16/21. Only downside is they are still fairly new(didn't start producing them until the 08 model year) so the prices are still up there

[NJ Torque]

I have a 03 with the 5.3... I do 100 miles a day round trip... Pull down 19

[NJ346]

I have a 03 with the 5.3... I do 100 miles a day round trip... Pull down 19

....


Mods? Stock?

[NJ Torque]

Just holes cut in the airbox. Only mods are HIDs and denali wheels.

[greenformula92]

Yea, i agree. I never intended to buy new. My plan was to sell/trade my current truck for a smaller one without having to spend any cash. I'm probably just going to get a tune and do e-fans and see what I can get out of it.

you can likely squeeze out the MPG you are looking for. one trick I use to get MPG's up is to use the cruise control A LOT. and try to keep it under 65

[NJ346]

you can likely squeeze out the MPG you are looking for. one trick I use to get MPG's up is to use the cruise control A LOT. and try to keep it under 65

I use cruise all the time. Slower speeds will definitely help. I'm seeing ~16.5 mpg @75mph. I've got a lot of driving to do this summer so hopefully after 2 or 3 weeks of trying different things I will reach my goal of 2-3 mpg improvement.

[LTb1ow]

I use cruise all the time. Slower speeds will definitely help. I'm seeing ~16.5 mpg @75mph. I've got a lot of driving to do this summer so hopefully after 2 or 3 weeks of trying different things I will reach my goal of 2-3 mpg improvement.

Drop it down to 65 and move all the way over to the right. It sucks but you will def see an improvement in MPG.

[sweetbmxrider]

I thought varying the throttle with light accelerating to coasting pulled better mpg's than cruise holding at pretty consistent rpm?

Could always do some weight reduction to help mpgs too.

[BonzoHansen]

I use cruise all the time. Slower speeds will definitely help. I'm seeing ~16.5 mpg @75mph. I've got a lot of driving to do this summer so hopefully after 2 or 3 weeks of trying different things I will reach my goal of 2-3 mpg improvement.

Trucks are aerodynamic as bricks. Slow down mileage will improve. at highway speeds weight, electeic fans are less of an impact as aerodynamics

[NJ346]

Could always do some weight reduction to help mpgs too.

The truck has 2 subwoofers in it with a box and some tools. Besides taking out the subs, I don't really know what I could do for weight reduction.

[JL8Jeff]

I disagree with the slowing down argument. My Silverado sits a little higher than stock with larger tires and I get my best mpg on the highway at 70-75 mph. I've tuned it for the larger tires so I know it's accurate. The stock clutch fan is said to rob at least 1-1.5 mpg and I have the Nelson harness and the LT1 fans but haven't had a chance to install them yet. I have the Diablosport tuner ($275 shipped) and that helped pick up some mpg but I'm usually driving 50 mph and under in my 10 minute drive to work with several traffic lights so I'll never get decent mpg around town. But on the highway you should be able to pull down 20 mpg with a few tricks. I cut back the EGR tube that goes into the TB/intake to allow better airflow and my truck had a CAI when I got it. Headers would probably help but might not be worth the added cost. In the end, I've done the calculations like Scott showed and it wasn't even worth the cost for me to get a moped/scooter/small motorcylce to justify any type of gas savings.

On a side note, have you checked your rear calipers? Mine were no longer floating like they should so I had to get rebuilt calipers for the rear. And the rear parking brake setup is known to drag so that could be causing some loss of mpg. I would definitely get the rear up in the air and check the calipers (unbolt them to verify both sides are moving in and out) and pull the rotors to check the parking brake assembly, I had to rebuild mine because it was all shot.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

I am suprised no one has suggested dropping the tailgate or removing it....

:bertstare:

[91zconvert]

i just bought a 8cyl dakota because i needed it to tow my cars.i used to have a V8 dakota but then i sold it for a 6cyl(BIG MISTAKE).although the V8 will not get great gas miledge,it will tow my cars without a problem.where as the V6 was starving.so i would say stay with your truck because you will be sorry in the long run.

[BonzoHansen]

I am suprised no one has suggested dropping the tailgate or removing it....

:bertstare:

I saw a story, maybe mythbusters, I don't remember, that proved that theory incorrect.

[sweetbmxrider]

The truck has 2 subwoofers in it with a box and some tools. Besides taking out the subs, I don't really know what I could do for weight reduction.

And you call yourself a drag racer

[JL8Jeff]

I saw a story, maybe mythbusters, I don't remember, that proved that theory incorrect.

Yes, Mythbusters showed that the tailgate and tonneau don't make a difference. Basically, there is a pocket of air that gets trapped in the bed that acts the same as a tonneau preventing the outside air from getting running into the tailgate.

[usp55]

I saw a story, maybe mythbusters, I don't remember, that proved that theory incorrect.

Yeah and IIRC they came to the conclusion that the best option was the tailgate net. It still created the negative air bubble in the bed but lost the weight of the tailgate. The faster moving air flowing over the cab cant clear the gate without that air bubble and basically its all turned into downforce on the gate when its down. Those nets look like poop though IMO.
I thnk they also proved its better to have the air on rather then the windows down at highway speeds.

4.8 in my o3 hoe and I got around 21 last week ,but i got on it a bunch of times. Right lane, 65-70mph, and chillin behind 18wheelers on 295. No tune or CAI but i really want to do the fan swap. need to find a good writeup.

[The_Bishop]

I just traded in my '10 Silverado 2500 for a '12 Crew Cab Z71 4x4 Colorado I-5. I was after more than just mileage though, my payments are over $100 a month cheaper on top of using half the fuel. I get 20-22 MPG mixed. The Colorado will tow 5k on the hitch, and 6k if you use a load distributing hitch.

[Squirrel]

how long do you plan on keeping the truck for?... because things such as lowering, lighter wheels/tires/brakes, full exhaust, etc take longer to justify but ultimately pay off

[1320B4U]

If its a summer internship i wouldn't get yourself into debt over it...deal w/the gas in the interim.

[NJ346]

Just thought I'd update this thread. In the first 2 days I averaged 18.1 mpg with nothing changed other than being pretty cautious with traffic lights. My trip is 40 miles true highway and another 20 miles of 50+ mph roads with lights. I just ordered a magnaflow exhaust off of ebay for $200 shipped and will be swapping that out next week. For anyone interested, the awesome deal on the exhaust can be found here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/99-08-Chevrolet-GMC-Truck-Dual-Exhaust-w-MagnaFlow?item=140753696903&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3D LVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8468251811302706908)

[LTb1ow]

Is that DIC numbers? Or hand calc?

Can the gassers store multiple tunes on the ECM?

[NJ Torque]

Just thought I'd update this thread. In the first 2 days I averaged 18.1 mpg with nothing changed other than being pretty cautious with traffic lights. My trip is 40 miles true highway and another 20 miles of 50+ mph roads with lights. I just ordered a magnaflow exhaust off of ebay for $200 shipped and will be swapping that out next week. For anyone interested, the awesome deal on the exhaust can be found here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/99-08-Chevrolet-GMC-Truck-Dual-Exhaust-w-MagnaFlow?item=140753696903&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3D LVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8468251811302706908)


I seen it... now I am a little worried about it being for all models...

[JL8Jeff]

I think there is still some winter gas at some of the stations as I have not really seen much of an increase yet. So wait another tank or 2 to see what your real summer mpg might be.

[NJ346]

Is that DIC numbers? Or hand calc?

Can the gassers store multiple tunes on the ECM?

Hand calc, 99's don't have DIC.

I have another tank to calculate right now, but waiting until sunday night to fill up since gas seems to be going down right now and I dont need the truck until my Monday morning commute.

[JL8Jeff]

I did a fill up last week and drove down the Phils game in some stop and go traffic. Then drove to work all week which is a lot of stop and go with 35-45 mph so no overdrive. My gas mileage jumped at least 2.5 mpg so I think the winter gas is gone for sure. I think I would have gotten a little better if the traffic wasn't so bad heading down I95 to the game.

[NJ346]

I hit 19 mpg on 1 tank last week. Then I changed from wawa gas to shell another tank to see if I got any better gas mileage. I managed 18.5 that tank with about 20-25 hard miles on it testing out the sound of the new exhaust. I'll fill up tomorrow after work and see what my true mileage is now. Would be nice to crack the 20 mpg mark one of these tanks

[LTb1ow]

Cracked 20mpg last night filling up, 60/40 local/highway split. Cheap diesel at rest stops ftw.

[NJ346]

Looks like shell gas actually lowered my mileage compared to whatever wawa is. Only got 18 mpg that tank.

[NJ Torque]

Hows that catback?

[NJ346]

Hows that catback?

Didn't fit at first because of the intermediate pipe from the flowmaster. I bought a new one off of summit for $50 and the exhaust went right on. It did take a little bit to get it to sit right and it is very close to the spare, but it fit.

[LTb1ow]

Whats the diameter?

[NJ346]

tails are 2.5in. Intermediate pipe is 2.75 but the inlet on the muffler was 3in. the intermediate pipes are cheap enough I may go and buy the right one eventually.

[WiMiMc]

I did a fill up last week and drove down the Phils game in some stop and go traffic. Then drove to work all week which is a lot of stop and go with 35-45 mph so no overdrive. My gas mileage jumped at least 2.5 mpg so I think the winter gas is gone for sure. I think I would have gotten a little better if the traffic wasn't so bad heading down I95 to the game.

I definitely think the winter gas is gone. Last fill up I got 23 MPG in the truck, all city no highway as usual

[The Fixer]

I definitely think the winter gas is gone. Last fill up I got 23 MPG in the truck, all city no highway as usual

Agreed. My AWD G35 went from 16 mpg up to 17.5 on the last tank. My commute is all local roads, with heavy stop and go traffic down by the GWB. And I'm not always a complete angel taking off from stoplights and such. :)

[NJ Torque]

Didn't fit at first because of the intermediate pipe from the flowmaster. I bought a new one off of summit for $50 and the exhaust went right on. It did take a little bit to get it to sit right and it is very close to the spare, but it fit.


did you get the mangaflow or the flowmaster they had?

[NJ346]

magnaflow. I plan on painting the tails because they are definitely made of cheap steel

[JL8Jeff]

I figured I would add to this thread. I took the ported TB off my truck back in Mar-Apr time frame to try and sell it. So far this summer, I've been towing the skiff around quite a bit and noticed my mileage has been much lower. I've been averaging around 15-16 mpg most of the summer. I just put the ported TB back on last week and filled up Thursday. Did some short distance towing on Friday, drove around locally a bit and ran down to the beach Sunday. I filled up last night and my mileage was 17.6 mpg. I've done some other weeks this summer with a beach trip and never saw more than 16.5 mpg so I'm thinking the ported TB might be making a bigger difference than I had expected.

[LTb1ow]

Trying out a purolator drop in air filter, not a dry filter like stock, they come oiled, which was not my first choice, but we shall see how it does. No MAF codes yet.

Also finally started throwing some fuel additive in, hoping to fix a injector (dreaming) and maybe get another mpg. Would be awesome to see some 21-23mpg range. Hopefully before winter fuel comes round and the temps drop off a lot more that may happen.

[NJ346]

I may have to throw a PP TB on mine and see what I'm getting. After I made this thread I've been stuck in the 17mpg range all summer.

[greenformula92]

Trying out a purolator drop in air filter, not a dry filter like stock, they come oiled, which was not my first choice, but we shall see how it does. No MAF codes yet.

Also finally started throwing some fuel additive in, hoping to fix a injector (dreaming) and maybe get another mpg. Would be awesome to see some 21-23mpg range. Hopefully before winter fuel comes round and the temps drop off a lot more that may happen.

You throw 1 part mix oil in to a full tank. that helps a lot and quiets down the engine. The new diesel gas doesn't have nearly enough lubricating properties. I guy I work with puts 2 stroke oil in his d-max with every fill up

[LTb1ow]

You throw 1 part mix oil in to a full tank. that helps a lot and quiets down the engine. The new diesel gas doesn't have nearly enough lubricating properties. I guy I work with puts 2 stroke oil in his d-max with every fill up

Yup, that or run some bio diesel, still working on convincing the rents to let me build a still :rofl: