2012 NJFBOA Fantasy Football

[cdacda13]

Hey Everyone,
So far 8 teams are signed up. The invite for the league was just sent to cycule and another was sent to Riggs.

The Current Owners list:
1. cdacda13 - Rev Tebow Touched Me
2. Dilley- The Arian Brotherhood
3. NastyEllEssWon - nasty
4. cbrrmike - wombats
5. Tru2Chevy - Teh Admins
6. 88WS-6 - Hurricane Ditka
7. coolmanvette75 - Evil Opti
8. (Pending to RiggsLW81- Sixx Killers)
9. (Pending to cycule)
10. Neverpullout

Few things up for discussion:
Everyone is still okay with a $20 buy-in for the league?
Any rule changes?
And most importantly, What time works for everyone for the draft? (The keeper deadline will be 48 hours before the draft.)

Good luck with the draft and with your season everyone!

[Mike]

Anything on a weds or Thursday works for me

[coolmanvette75]

Any night except tuesday nights and wednesday nights. I would tend to think friday night or saturday night would work for most people

[88WS-6]

Any day after 4pm except Wednesday.


And $20 is fine.

[Mike]

Any night except tuesday nights and wednesday nights. I would tend to think friday night or saturday night would work for most people

Actually in the past I have seen that be harder. More people have lives on those nights.

[Tru2Chevy]

$20 is fine with me....the only nights I have off from work are Thursday and Friday, and starting later is better for me.

- Justin

[coolmanvette75]

Yea the later the better for me to. I can do any night after 11 eastern (10 my time)

[Dilley]

Where are we reporting keepers to? Is it on yahoo, do we pm the comish?

[88WS-6]

Where are we reporting keepers to? Is it on yahoo, do we pm the comish?

There is a link on our league homepage on yahoo. "Select Keepers" or something like that.

[Dilley]

Oh Alright thank you. And what's our rules for offseason trades? If its allowed I'm willing to make some pre draft moves I have frank Gore, Darren McFadden, Jimmy Graham, and Cam Newton that people would be interested in and willing to move. So make me an offer.

[Mike]

Oh Alright thank you. And what's our rules for offseason trades? If its allowed I'm willing to make some pre draft moves I have frank Gore, Darren McFadden, Jimmy Graham, and Cam Newton that people would be interested in and willing to move. So make me an offer.

That they don't do

[NastyEllEssWon]

why is Rothelisberger not showing up for keepers??? im curious as to tell how high we drafted these people too.

[88WS-6]

why is Rothelisberger not showing up for keepers??? im curious as to tell how high we drafted these people too.

I'm guessing here, but I think that if you pick one player to keep, it takes away your 1st pick. If you pick two, it takes away 1st and 2nd.

[NastyEllEssWon]

I'm guessing here, but I think that if you pick one player to keep, it takes away your 1st pick. If you pick two, it takes away 1st and 2nd.



i thought the way keepers work is that whatever position you drafted them the year before is what position draft pick you lose in the draft. im not understanding why ben rothelisberger isnt showing up on my list of players to keep.

[Dilley]

I'm guessing here, but I think that if you pick one player to keep, it takes away your 1st pick. If you pick two, it takes away 1st and 2nd.

That's how I've always done keepers.

[Mike]

keepers count as the pick for the round they were originally drafted in, its right at the top of the keepers page...

[88WS-6]

keepers count as the pick for the round they were originally drafted in, its right at the top of the keepers page...

This was what I read on the keepers page:


"Keeper Rules Note (from the Commissioner)

You are only allowed to mark two (2) players as "keeper" players on your roster. I still have to figure out how this will effect the draft order, but it means that it most likely will not be auto pick and will be based on your placement from last season. For example if you finished last you will receive the 1st pick. If you decide to use a keeper pick you will forfeit your pick in the first round. If you decide to use your second keeper pick you will forfeit your pick in the second round. Questions or suggestions welcomed."

[Mike]

Nasty. Ben wasn't on your team at the end of the season. You have rivers,and no one else.

[NastyEllEssWon]

eh give me a few days to figure out. first its they only count for the draft we picked them at, then i read that it counts for a first rounder or second rounder. this keeper crap is more trouble than its worth honestly. ill let you know in 48 hours if i find another league or not as im not really clear what the hell is going on here and no one has made mention what officially is happening with this.

[NastyEllEssWon]

so how is this working. is it the first two picks in the draft you lose, or is it the round they were drafted in the year before. i wish i wouldve known this, after looking through my things, i think i dropped Rothelisberger when he got hurt last year. i wish i knew we were doing keepers.


so my question is....why not do the keepers thing next year and not do it this year since there might have been people who let someone go due to injury and it not being a keeper league.

[coolmanvette75]

I would tend to think its pick 1 and 2. The reason I say this is because what if you traded for someone or picked them up off waivers last year and decided to keep them. There is no "round" that you drafted them last year simply because you didnt draft them...

[NastyEllEssWon]

I would tend to think its pick 1 and 2. The reason I say this is because what if you traded for someone or picked them up off waivers last year and decided to keep them. There is no "round" that you drafted them last year simply because you didnt draft them...




then it would go by the round the other person drafted them at. if they were undrafted im guessing it would be counted as a last round pick?

[Mike]

Nasty is correct. That is standard yahoo keeper setup

[88WS-6]

so my question is....why not do the keepers thing next year and not do it this year since there might have been people who let someone go due to injury and it not being a keeper league.

I'm fine with that. Keepers is not a deal breaker for me and I'm ready for the draft either way.

[cdacda13]

If you want to wait until next season to do keeper leagues, that's fine by me. I can remove the keeper rules for this year.

Here's yahoo's indroduction and instructions on keepers.

Starting a Keeper League

So you want to step up your fantasy game. You've heard about keeper or dynasty leagues, and you think they might be just what you need to take your fantasy playing experience to the next level. But you just aren't sure what exactly that means or how to begin. If this sounds about right, then keep reading. The first thing to understand is there is no single, correct way to run a keeper league. Almost every keeper league dreams up its own combination of rules to suit their own needs and interests. Instead of telling you how to run your league, let's try to help you understand what questions to ask and give you some ideas to answer them.
What is a Keeper League?

In a general sense, when people talk about a keeper league, they are talking about a fantasy league where the league doesn't start fresh every season. Some players are carried over from the previous season to maintain continuity. At the extreme is a dynasty league, which usually refers to a league where all players are carried over from season to season.
Why Should We Have a Keeper League?

Participating in a keeper league adds a new dimension to your strategy and gameplay. We've all been in a league where our draft just doesn't work out the way we had hoped, and it becomes clear pretty early that we aren't going to be able to compete in the current season. In a non-keeper, or redraft league, the best you can hope to do is to be a good sport, continue to manage your team, and hope that either your team performs a miracle or you can at least play the spoiler. In a keeper league, you instead switch your focus: if I can't win this season, how can I better position myself to win in the future? But within this general concept, there are many ways to implement a keeper league, and many questions a league must agree upon to form their rules.
How Many Players Should We Keep?

This is typically the first question a new keeper league must address. If you keep too few players from season to season, then you defeat some of the purpose and strategy of having a keeper league to begin with. If you protect too many players, your league can become stagnant; if you finish in last place, but immediately notice that the top 50 players in the game won't be available to draft the following season, then the situation can be even more bleak than usual.

The simplest model, which many keeper leagues start with, is to pick a number league members are comfortable with, and all teams keep that many players each season. Again, there is no correct answer for this number; your league members need to discuss what aspects of the game strategy they want to stress and how much they want to encourage change and fluidity among the teams.

A more challenging model allows teams to protect a variable number of players. Such a league will often incorporate some notion of cost, such that you cannot necessarily just protect all the players you want. Without a cost of some sort, you would imagine that the winner of the league might very often just keep all their players, and be very difficult to beat the following season.
How Can We Incorporate Player Costs?

For many keeper leagues, the next step of evolution is to associate costs with players, so that protecting one player instead of another has an impact on your strategy. As is usually the case with keeper leagues, there are many different ways to establish costs. Here are some examples to spark discussion within your league:

Player Tenure: A player can only be kept for a fixed number of seasons before they must be released back into the pool to be redrafted. This is a relatively simple model that starts to encourage player movement and parity in a league. For example, a rule that says, "All teams can protect up to five players, but no player can be kept more than three years in a row." is relatively simple to understand and implement.
Team Tenure: A player has a cost that increases the longer he is kept on a team, and instead of being allowed to protect a fixed number of players, each team can protect a fixed number of years of service. For example, in a league that allows you to protect 10 years of service, you could protect 10 different players that were newly drafted in the current season, five players that had been newly drafted the previous year, one player that you loved and held for 10 years, or any combination, such as a player that had been held for five years, another player that had been held for three years, and two players that were newly drafted in the current season.
Draft Position: The cost to keep a player is related to the position in which he is drafted. At the start of every season, a league typically has a draft to populate their entire roster, and for each player they chose to keep, they'll require one fewer draft pick. Which pick that is can associate value with the kept player. For example, many leagues say, "If you wish to protect a player you drafted this season, you must sacrifice a pick one round better than where you selected him. Each year after that, you must give up a pick one round higher still." So if I draft a player in the 5th round, and he turns out to be a solid player I'd like to keep, I could choose to keep him rather than having a 4th round pick the following year. If he continues to be valuable at that price, the following season I could give up a 3rd round pick to keep him, and so on. Such a league should have rules for possible scenarios like, "What happens when I give up a 1st round pick to keep a player, and then I want to keep him another year?" The answer might just be, "You can't, and you have to throw that player back into the pool to be drafted.", or the league might find some other way to penalize a team for further protecting such a player. Similarly, suppose during the season you trade for a player that another team drafted in the 4th round, and at the end of the season you conclude you'd like to protect that player as well as the player you selected in the 4th round. You would not necessarily have two 3rd round picks to forfeit for keeping both players, so there needs to be a rule defined to handle this case. It might be, "You can't do that. Pick one of them." Or it might be, "Then you'll have to give up a 2nd round pick for one of them instead." Or it might be anything else your league defines and agrees upon.
Player Salary: Leagues that do an auction style draft have unique options related to keeper costs, since every player that is drafted inherently has a cost associated with him. So a league could say, "If you wish to keep a player after he was drafted in an auction, then you must increase his cost by $5 per year. The player is put on your roster, and your auction budget is reduced accordingly." And all these different possibilities and rules can interact; such a league might decide that the $5 increases will eventually make a player impractical to protect, or they might also implement a rule that says that no player can be kept for more than five straight years in any case.

What Happens to My Draft When I Have Keepers?

In the end, every team needs to end up with the same number of players. So for every player they protect they need to forfeit one of their draft picks. But which pick they give up depends entirely on your rules. Some examples:

All Teams Keep the Same Number of Players: For leagues where each team protects the same number of players, this can usually be resolved pretty simply. If every team protects X players, you can imagine that the first X rounds of your draft are just all the teams taking their keepers. Similarly, you could imagine that the last X rounds are just all the teams taking their keepers, and it would play out the same.
Teams Keep Different Numbers of Players: For leagues where teams protect different numbers of players, this gets more complex. If I protect eight players, and you protect five players, there is a noteworthy difference between whether I use an extra three picks at the beginning of the draft or the end of the draft. Your league can decide which is more in the spirit of their goals. Putting those picks at the beginning of the draft puts a substantial cost on the kept players that isn't present if they are put at the end of the draft.
Keepers Based on Draft Position: For leagues that value player cost in terms of a draft pick, then their keepers may effectively be scattered throughout the draft. Perhaps you and I each protect three players, but based on their past draft position I might give up my 1st, 5th, and 8th round picks to keep those players, whereas you might give up your 3rd, 12th, and 17th round picks to keep your players. Such a system is very powerful, but slightly more complicated to administer and maintain.
Auction Drafts: For auction drafts, there is no notion of draft position. Instead, each team will potentially be able to win a different number of players at auction to fill out their roster. If every team in your league protects the same number of players, then you don't necessarily need to adjust anyone's auction budget. But if your kept players have an associated cost, then that probably needs to get reflected in differing budgets per team, and if teams protect differing numbers of players you almost certainly want to have that reflected in budget. It has an important meaning if I protect six players and you protect three, but we both start with the same amount of money to fill out our rosters. Effectively, I'd be protecting three players as if I purchased them for $0.
Draft Order: In just about any redraft league, the draft order proceeds in a snaking fashion; whoever picks first in the odd numbered rounds picks last in the even numbered rounds, and vice versa. In a keeper league, it is often interesting to revisit this assumption. The NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL all give preferred draft position to teams that do poorly, in one way or another, in an effort to encourage parity. Your fantasy team may wish to do the same. Since the point of snaking the draft order is usually to not provide any undue advantage to teams that are all supposed to be drafting equally, you could instead say, "The team who finished last this year drafts first in every round next year, and the team who finished first drafts last in every round."

What About Trading Draft Picks?

In addition to trading players in a keeper league, considering also trading draft picks, just as the major sports leagues do. A team in contention for this year's championship may wish to trade away a quality pick in the next draft for a player that is doing well in the present. And for the team that can't win this year, that may make perfect sense for them, particularly if that player has an excessive cost associated with protecting him. This is similar to professional sports teams that decide to rebuild and trade an expensive star for future draft picks or cheaper prospect players.

In a league where you are allowed to trade draft picks, it definitely will make the commissioner's life easier if every traded pick needs to have a corresponding pick traded in the other direction. Since all teams need to end up with the same number of players in the end, this helps maintain order. For example, imagine a league where I trade a player for your 1st round pick. Then at the end of the year, we both decide we hate our rosters so much we are protecting no players. At that point you would have no 1st round pick, I would have two 1st round picks, and we'd both have 1 pick in every other round. So if the draft proceeded in this fashion, I'd end up with an extra player, and you'd end up short a player. It simplifies things if instead we're forced to say, "I trade you the player and my last pick in the draft for your 1st round pick."
How Do We Maintain Balance When Teams Have Different Goals?

Many keeper leagues find that there can be strange dynamics when some teams are playing for the present while others are totally playing for the future. In actual major league sports, teams are beholden to their fans to play a competent, major league team. There is no parallel to this in fantasy, which can encourage a team to completely dump value. There are various types of rules that can help temper this imbalance:

Salary Cap: Some leagues will implement some sort of in-season salary cap. This might limit the number of previous protected players any given team can have. For leagues that have costs associated with players, this might limit the amount of player cost a team can accumulate via trade.
Draft Order: Some leagues will put in measures to discourage giving up completely on the current season. Rather than simply reversing the draft order based on order of finish, a league might use a more complex system to establish the basic draft order. This is analogous to what the NBA does with their draft lottery, to ensure that doing horribly in the current season doesn't necessarily richly reward you for the following season.
Trade Approval: Some leagues might use a trade approval system (manager votes, commissioner veto) that is intended to identify when a team has gone too far over the top and needs to continue to play a competent team in the present, rather than sacrificing entirely for the future.

Next Steps

We've presented a lot of scenarios, and a lot of questions to think about. It can seem overwhelming at first, but if you sort through it and come up with a set of rules your league is comfortable with, it can lead to a much deeper and more entertaining fantasy experience. It is important to come to clear agreement on what rules you are doing, and to document them fully to avoid misunderstandings and frustration once you start playing, but if you come up with a solid set of rules, it can be well worth it. Good luck; if you decide a keeper league is right for you, and you come up with a set of rules that you are comfortable with, you can visit our page on how Yahoo! supports keeper leagues to see how our tools help a commissioner implement the rules you've chosen.

And here's their keeper tools page.

Tools to Support Your Keeper League

As described in the Introduction to Keeper Leagues, many keeper leagues use a unique combination of custom rules. For that reason, it is very difficult to fully support every keeper league. Rather than implementing a single model for how keeper leagues work, Yahoo! takes a different approach: we provide tools that will help the majority of keeper leagues, building upon our library of keeper-related tools over time to keep making life easier for the commissioner and the league. Let's take a look at the tools we offer, their intended uses, and how to best use them to improve your league.
The Tools

Because keeper leagues mean different things to different leagues, there is no setting to signify being a keeper league. Simply use the tools that help you and don't use the others.
Invite Friends

If you renew your Yahoo! league instead of creating a league from scratch, all teams from last year are retained. The Invite Friends tool helps you keep track of the managers invited back to own their teams and potential managers invited to take over existing or new teams. This franchise model is essential for some of the keeper-related tools; by retaining last year's teams, we can reliably associate things like last year's rosters and traded draft picks. This also makes renewal quicker for returning managers since we'll already know their team settings.
Edit Keeper Settings

Use the Edit Keeper Settings tool to allow teams to select keepers on their own. When you select the Enable Keeper Management Tools checkbox you will be prompted to pick a deadline date for the league to select their keepers. If your league uses a live draft, this date must be prior to the draft. Be careful to give yourself enough time to review and confirm keepers and give your league ample time to prepare for the draft once available players are known. After selecting the keeper deadline, you can add a note to explain your league's custom keeper rules which will appear on the Choose Keepers page described below.
Choose Keepers

Once a keeper deadline is selected, each team may view last year's roster and select players on their Choose Keepers page. Selections will not be publicly viewable until the commissioner approves the declared keepers after the deadline date. Keep in mind that since Yahoo! doesn't know exactly what rules your league uses, we can't enforce those rules. Instead we display the commissioner-provided note to remind owners of the rules and allow the commissioner to review and change declared keepers if necessary.
Approve Keeper Players

After the keeper deadline passes the commissioner can use the Confirm Keepers tool to review the keepers submitted by each team, change them if needed to comply with league rules, and approve the league's keeper selections, publishing the results. The commissioner is required to complete this step prior to a live draft, or the draft will fail to run. If the commissioner changes any of the team's keepers, this change will be noted in a transaction to improve league communication and discourage unethical changes by the commissioner.
Edit Draft Order & Assign Keeper Players

Perhaps the most important keeper-related tool is the Custom Draft Order tool. Any keeper league eventually ends up depending on this tool, even if they did not choose to use the previous tools on our site to declare their keepers. It serves purposes:

After setting a custom draft order, the commissioner can set the order of team picks in each round. This is essential for leagues that want to base the draft order on the order of finish from the previous season or some other custom method.
Once the base order is set, decide whether the draft order repeats each round, or "snakes", reversing direction each round. Keeper leagues often use a repeating rather than snaking draft order.
If a renewed league allowed for draft pick trading the previous year, the commissioner can choose to import those traded picks and apply them to the base draft order.
If a league used our keeper management tools to select keepers, the commission can choose where keepers will be placed in the draft. Keepers can be automatically added as the first or last picks for each team or the commissioner can manually apply keepers to any picks.
The commissioner can reassign any individual pick to a different team as needed. This allows for any amount of customization for leagues with rules we can't automatically support. For example, if your league allows trades and trading of draft picks when the Yahoo! fantasy game is offseason, the commissioner can reassign those traded picks that Yahoo! is unaware of.
The commissioner can then pre-select any player into any pick. Since any player can be slotted into any pick, it allows the commissioner total control over how the selection of keepers impacts a team's draft position.

Assign Auction Keeper Players

While the custom draft order tool lives at the heart of keeper leagues that do a standard draft, it doesn't apply to leagues that do an auction draft, which has no notion of draft order. For auction leagues, there is a separate tool to Assign Auction Keeper Players. This allows the commissioner to add keepers and their costs to teams before the auction begins.
Keeper Costs

While Yahoo! does not have a particular idea what it means for a player to have a cost and does nothing to try to enforce or do calculations based on those costs, it can still be very useful for a keeper league to see such costs in-game. The Set Keeper Costs tool allows that to happen. For standard draft leagues, the commissioner can enter any numeric value for all keeper players, and indicate that these values should be visible within the game. This includes places like the full roster view, the trade flow, and so on. For auction leagues, the tool can be used in the same way, or a special option can be chosen to simply use the auction purchase prices as the player costs within the game.
Keeper Player Status

Since leagues may have rules designating when a player loses his cost or keeper status, the Keeper Player Status tool allows a league to automate some of that management problem. It first allows the commissioner to decide whether keeper status should be visible throughout the game. If visible, then it allows the commissioner to designate whether several conditions should remove a player's status as a keeper player, and stop displaying them as a keeper. In particular, a league can be configured to remove keeper status if a player:

Is traded
Is dropped from a team and claimed off waivers by another team
Is dropped from a team and clears waivers, becoming a free agent

Any or all conditions can be selected/unselected.
Allow Draft Pick Trades

Since many keeper leagues are enriched by the ability to trade draft picks, we now allow leagues to be configured to allow the trading of draft picks for the following season. Whether or not this is allowed is configured by a single setting in the League Settings tool. For leagues that allow traded picks, the following items apply:

Any trades involving picks must involve an equal number of picks going in each direction
Picks can only be traded for the following season
Once any picks have been traded, the feature cannot be turned off
A new page/tool is available to summarize which picks have been traded

Adding Keepers to Your League

Prior to this season, commissioners needed to track keepers offline and import them when they used the Edit Draft Order & Assign Keeper Players tool. Now, if a commissioner would like to manage the process of declaring keepers within the game, they can do so as follows:

Renew the league from the previous season
Populate all teams by reinviting managers or inviting new users to own the teams via the Invite Friends Tool
Finalize the team list
Enable keeper management tools using the Edit Keeper Settings tool
Set a Keeper Declaration Deadline leaving enough time to process the submitted keepers before the live draft
Once the Keeper Declaration Deadline passes, review all submitted keepers using the Approve Keeper Players tool. Make any changes necessary to adhere to your league's rules.
Keepers can then be automatically added as the first or last draft picks or manually added anywhere in the draft when setting up a custom draft order using the Edit Draft Order & Assign Keeper Players

Adding Traded Draft Picks Into Your League

If your league enabled the trading of draft picks in the previous season, when you use the Edit Draft Order & Assign Keeper Players tool, you'll be given the option to add the traded picks into the draft order. You do need to avoid conditions that would make it impossible to safely and cleanly import traded draft picks. Those include:

If you shrink the maximum roster size such that one or more traded picks no longer exist, we cannot import picks. For example, if someone has traded a 25th round pick, and you shrink the maximum roster size to 23, then there will not be a 25th round, and we cannot import the picks
If you remove a team from the league that had traded picks in the previous season, we cannot import the picks
If you create a new league rather than renewing the previous league, we won't have knowledge of the traded picks
If you switch to an auction draft format, then the notion of a draft order becomes irrelevant, and there will never be an opportunity to import the picks

Setting Up Your Draft Order

When commissioners customize their draft order in the Edit Draft Order & Assign Keeper Players tool some changes were made to better serve commissioners:

When setting up the base draft order, commissioners can now choose to import traded picks from the previous season

If keepers were declared, the commissioner can choose several popular options to automatically import those players into appropriate picks. For example, if your league rules would allow for the keepers to always be assigned to the last picks each team holds or the first picks each team holds, that is now easily supported. If instead you need to assign keepers to individual picks throughout the draft, when editing a pick the tool can help you limit the list of players to those protected by the team owning that pick.

Viewing Keeper Information During the Season

There are several things the commissioner can do to help communicate keeper details during the season. For example:

The commissioner can use the Keeper Costs tool to enter keeper costs for individual players, can indicate that keepers should be designated as such throughout the league, and can show costs for the keepers where appropriate throughout the league.
The commissioner may be able to use the Keeper Player Status tool to match the rules of your league and to automatically maintain the keeper status of players across transactions such as trades and drop/adds.


There's really no "standard" for keeper leagues. Everyone is going to be different. If the everyone wants to do keepers based on last years draft picks, you still have to declare your keeper picks before I can assign the draft order and picks.
I believe that losing your 1st and 2nd round pick for your keeper picks is the fairest way to do keepers. Everyone is equal is their punishments for keeper their best players. It makes owners think twice if they really want to keep that player.

Let me know what everyone feels about this.

(sorry about taking so long with my reply, I just started my job a couple weeks ago and its been time consuming lately.)

[Mike]

I have never done it that way and actually hate it. It takes away from sleeper picks and breakout players. But whatever this is getting a bit tedious at this point

[cdacda13]

I have never done it that way and actually hate it. It takes away from sleeper picks and breakout players. But whatever this is getting a bit tedious at this point
If most people feel the same way, let's cancel keepers for this year and try again next year so there's more time hammer the details down.

[NastyEllEssWon]

If most people feel the same way, let's cancel keepers for this year and try again next year so there's more time hammer the details down.



that works. seems to be a bit of first time kinks to work out. but knowing that this will be a keeper for next year will highly impact draft strategy. especially if we do it by the per round draft pick. if last year was a keeper i wouldnt have ditched rothelisberger late last year for a running back, i stole him in the 4th round since he had an injury at the start of the year. wouldve made for a nice keeper lol

[coolmanvette75]

I'll just go with the flow. What ever you guys decide I'm fine with...

[88WS-6]

If most people feel the same way, let's cancel keepers for this year and try again next year so there's more time hammer the details down.

That's fine with me. Keepers next year based on when they were taken this year.

Now, when's the draft?

[Tru2Chevy]

Yea, I'm fine with waiting until next year for keepers as well.

- Justin

[Mike]

We really need to get our **** together. Season starts next week

[Jersey Mike]

You're capping it at 10, right? If so, and someone decides to drop, then I'd be in.

Otherwise, good luck with your seasons, boys.

[Tru2Chevy]

Not sure who we are missing, but as of now only 9 teams are signed up in Yahoo. Who hasn't joined yet - Riggs?

- Justin

[88WS-6]

Please let me know ASAP if the draft is this Friday at 2pm. I would need to make arrangements to try and get out of work early...

[Mike]

if the draft is at 2 pm on a weekday, at least half the league will be auto drafting... this is getting a little nuts now how hard this is to sort out.

[coolmanvette75]

if the draft is at 2 pm on a weekday, at least half the league will be auto drafting... this is getting a little nuts now how hard this is to sort out.

agreed

[Tru2Chevy]

We also still only have 9 teams.....

- Justin

[cdacda13]

I will cancel the keeper feature for this year's draft. But everyone be aware that there will be keepers next season. Be mindful of this when you are drafting players and releasing them throughout the season.

I spoke to Riggs last week, he said he wants back in for this years league. He said he will sign up soon. I sent him another PM tonight. If he doesn't get back to me by Friday, Jersey Mike can take his spot.

Can everyone do Sunday for the Draft? The season starts in one week so let me know which time and date before then works best for most people. (Draft has been temporarily pushed back until noon on Sunday 9/2)

[Mike]

I can do suday

[Tru2Chevy]

I can do Sunday....would prefer it to be late afternoon / early evening (I start work at 4:00pm, can draft from work).

If everyone else wants it earlier I should be able to manage though.

- Justin

[88WS-6]

Sunday afternoon/early evening is fine for me too.

[NastyEllEssWon]

Sundays fine but noons too early. Im liking that 2pm slot from friday sliding over to sunday at the very least :D

[NastyEllEssWon]

so i just got an email saying Sunday at noon is the draft?

[Jersey Mike]

so i just got an email saying Sunday at noon is the draft?


He said he will sign up soon. I sent him another PM tonight. If he doesn't get back to me by Friday, Jersey Mike can take his spot.

Curious what's going on with this, as I'd have to know to not make plans during a draft time...

[Mike]

I have a wedding at 3 today and won't be able to check in after 2:30 and probably won't see anything until tomorrow late morning. So can we work this out asap


Edit. Ryan (neverpullout) is in the same situation as me with the wedding

[coolmanvette75]

I can do anything after like 3:30 tomorrow. Cant draft at work...

[NastyEllEssWon]

looks like the league is gonna autodraft for the majority of us which isnt cool

[Mike]

Can't draft with 9

[cdacda13]

Draft is set, Sunday at 2:30.

[Mike]

Ugh.

[NastyEllEssWon]

Draft is set, Sunday at 2:30.




dont you see everyone saying make it later in the day like after 4. at least 3-4 people already have. who the hell ran things the last two years and why arent they doing it this year?

[coolmanvette75]

Yea man. I get out of work at 330. Do it at 4 or later. I dont wanna autodraft.

[Mike]

I'm not free after 4.

He ran it last year I did the years before that

[cdacda13]

Any day after 4pm except Wednesday.


And $20 is fine.

I can do suday

I can do Sunday....would prefer it to be late afternoon / early evening (I start work at 4:00pm, can draft from work).

If everyone else wants it earlier I should be able to manage though.

- Justin

Sunday afternoon/early evening is fine for me too.

Sundays fine but noons too early. Im liking that 2pm slot from friday sliding over to sunday at the very least :D

I can do anything after like 3:30 tomorrow. Cant draft at work...

Yea man. I get out of work at 330. Do it at 4 or later. I dont wanna autodraft.

I'm not free after 4.

He ran it last year I did the years before that

Re-set to 4:45 as most people seem to be able to do that time. 6 people said they can draft after 4pm.

[coolmanvette75]

That works for me

[Mike]

What the hell. Auto draft I guess this is bs at this point I don't even want to waste my money

[NastyEllEssWon]

so freaking set it for monday at like 8 pm then. i dont see why one day would matter much

[Mike]

If it moves again I'm out for real.

[Jersey Mike]

Can't draft with 9

Someone please fill me in as to if I need to be by a computer later today or not...?

[Mike]

Apparently there are 10

[cdacda13]

Someone please fill me in as to if I need to be by a computer later today or not...?

No you are not needed. Thanks for waiting around for us. Riggs did sign up yesterday evening so we're all set.

[Jersey Mike]

Very good. Thanks for the update. Poolside I stay :-P

[Cycule]

Seriously, I thought the draft was at 2pm today. I have a softball playoff game I have to be at by 6:15 in manahawkin. Whats up? And how are we picking our 2 keepers?

[Mike]

Seriously, I thought the draft was at 2pm today. I have a softball playoff game I have to be at by 6:15 in manahawkin. Whats up? And how are we picking our 2 keepers?

4:45 and no keepers now

[Cycule]

can we make it 4pm or 4:15pm?

[88WS-6]

Wow this turned into a train wreck really quick. Good luck everyone, draft's in 15 minutes...

[coolmanvette75]

I pick 7th. Thats unfortunate. Lol

[Tru2Chevy]

Ugh....autodraft sucks balls. Got hung up with stuff at work and couldn't hop in until the 8th round.

- Justin

[NastyEllEssWon]

Ugh....autodraft sucks balls. Got hung up with stuff at work and couldn't hop in until the 8th round.

- Justin



i popped in at like 4:50 and it was already in like the 6th or 7th round, not sure, decided to just let it autodraft at that point.

[Tru2Chevy]

at least the autodraft netted you the niners defense :moon:

- Justin

[NastyEllEssWon]

at least the autodraft netted you the niners defense :moon:

- Justin



lol so says the guy with green bays D. lol ill give you the niners D for green bays D and ray rice :D

[88WS-6]

cdacda,

What's your paypal?

[elle]

This thread is a great read. lol

[Mike]

This thread is a great read. lol

Quality post yourself

[elle]

Glad i could contribute to the madness.

[Tru2Chevy]

63 yard FG! That is why David Akers is the best kicker in the game, hands down.

- Justin

[coolmanvette75]

That was crazy. I wish I started Jets defense this week. Lol

[Tru2Chevy]

I wish I started Matt Ryan over Eli....

- Justin

[NastyEllEssWon]

I wish I started Matt Ryan over Eli....

- Justin



eh you got the win anyway :D

[Tru2Chevy]

eh you got the win anyway :D

Yea, it's looking that way. This Niners-Packers game is getting intense.

- Justin

[coolmanvette75]

Frank Gore is getting it done for me. Lol

[Tru2Chevy]

It's a complicated game for me. I have Akers, and the Packers D. Nasty has the Niners D. So one play I'm cheering for GB, the next the Niners....I think I'm confusing my co-worker pretty thoroughly.

- Justin

[NastyEllEssWon]

It's a complicated game for me. I have Akers, and the Packers D. Nasty has the Niners D. So one play I'm cheering for GB, the next the Niners....I think I'm confusing my co-worker pretty thoroughly.

- Justin



lol not to mention i have the niners D and Greg Jennings. either way both did crap for me. damn autodraft.

[Tru2Chevy]

I'll trade GB for SF if you don't like 'em :)

I'd rather keep my personal and fantasy cheering in line....

- Justin

[88WS-6]

Fred Jackson going down killed me.

[coolmanvette75]

Looks like a win for me in week 1, and I still have 2 people left to play tonight. Lol

[88WS-6]

Just sent in my $20. Let me know if you don't get it.

[cdacda13]

Just sent in my $20. Let me know if you don't get it.

Got it. Thanks for sending it in.

Seems like a great first week for everyone. I was able to pull out the win cause of Thomas's touchdowns in the Sunday night game.

Good luck in week two everyone.

[88WS-6]

I had a waiver in on Morris, but somebody (cough nasty cough my next opponent cough damn it) had a waiver order higher than me even though I scored the least amount of points...

[NastyEllEssWon]

I had a waiver in on Morris, but somebody (cough nasty cough my next opponent cough damn it) had a waiver order higher than me even though I scored the least amount of points...



lol i had 9th pick in the draft and havent claimed on waivers yet :D

[Cycule]

Yea man I have Fred Jackson in another league. He killed me
Fred Jackson going down killed me.

[Cycule]

Where do I send money?

[coolmanvette75]

Awww yeaaa 2-0. Sorry Justin. Ended up being a lot closer than I would have liked though. CJ Spiller got me 29 points. Not bad for my like 10th round draft pick. Lol

[88WS-6]

Awww yeaaa 2-0. Sorry Justin. Ended up being a lot closer than I would have liked though. CJ Spiller got me 29 points. Not bad for my like 10th round draft pick. Lol

I was looking for Spiller in free agents after Jackson went down. I was thinking, "No way someone drafted Spiller..." But sure enough :-x

[Tru2Chevy]

Awww yeaaa 2-0. Sorry Justin. Ended up being a lot closer than I would have liked though. CJ Spiller got me 29 points. Not bad for my like 10th round draft pick. Lol

Yea, I was really hoping that Ryan would get one more TD pass at the end of the game, but it was not to be. Oh well, still a good game.

- Justin

[Cycule]

Hell yea! Number 1 spot. 2-0:) Sorry Ryan Cruz went nuts this week.

[88WS-6]

Nicks is out?!? Son of a...

[Mike]

What's the PayPal again?

[88WS-6]

I think he PM'ed it to me last year, but I found it in my PayPal history.

[cdacda13]

I'll PM everyone shortly with the Paypal information. I just started my job and its been a hectic start. Things are starting to calm down so I'll be more on top of everything.
Expect a PM with Paypal information within the next 2 days or so.

I apologize for the delay. I know last year was very different with the requirements.

So far it seems to be a competitive league. To whomever picked up Andre Brown (and started him!) before the game on Thursday, congrats! Within two carries I looked him up and it turns out he was starting against me. It was surprising to find someone with that much foresight.

Keep an eye on your in-boxes' for a PM from me in the next few days.

[coolmanvette75]

^Thats like me when I started CJ Spiller the other week. Lol

[88WS-6]

Nicks is out again? Son of a...

[Tru2Chevy]

Did the paypal PMs ever get sent? I haven't seen one....

- Justin

[NastyEllEssWon]

First off its been a crazy season so far in our little league :D Congrats to the top 3 guys for clinching a playoff spot. I started out 1-5 and now im 7-6 and whoever wins in my matchup today clinches the last spot for the playoffs!

Thanks guys for a fun year again and Im not sure who's actually doing the money collecting this year but if you know who, please pm me whos doing that. I still need to paypal mine in (I always wait till late in the season though :D)

[Mike]

He never posted hismpqypal after saying he was about too. I still owe for myself and neverpullout

[NastyEllEssWon]

He never posted hismpqypal after saying he was about too. I still owe for myself and neverpullout



didnt you use to handle the paypal the last few years?

[Mike]

Last year and this year I'm not the commish

[Tru2Chevy]

He never posted hismpqypal after saying he was about too. I still owe for myself and neverpullout

Yes, I still owe as well. I asked months ago in the other FF thread, never got a response.

- Justin

[cdacda13]

Sorry for being a terrible commish this year guys. Since I started working full time after graduating I haven't had the time I used have. I'm still trying to work out this whole time management thing. My apologies for waiting until playoffs to begin collecting the league buy-in.
The payout split will be the same from last year. 3rd place gets their buy-in back, second place gets 1/3 of the remaining pool. ($60) And first place gets 2/3 of the pool. ($120)
PM was just sent out to everyone in the league including my paypal information.

[Mike]

So who won?

[Mike]

No one?

[cdacda13]

So it was a fun ending to the season.
Congrats to Mike (Wombats) for winning the championship this season. Cycule (TD Bangers) came in second. And Dilley (The Arian Brotherhood) came in third.
I'm still collecting money from some people, once I receive the rest of it I'll send it the winners.

[Tru2Chevy]

I just sent my $20 in....

So who won?
Really Mike? :mrgreen:

- Justin

[Mike]

Seemed better than saying "pay me bitches"

[Jersey Mike]

I'm bumping this to remind you guys how lame you are.

[Mike]

I'm bumping this to remind you guys how lame you are.

You could have done it

[PolarBear]

I'm bumping this to remind you guys how lame you are.

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7324&stc=1&d=1377605150


Pot......... Kettle........

[Jersey Mike]

I'm in a couple already, but if none of you care to revive your league, and are waiting for someone else to take the initiative, then I will be your Moses.

Just say the word.

[Mike]

I'm in two. And could only draft on Tuesday weds or thursday

[PolarBear]

I'm out, The bookie scammed me last time

[Tru2Chevy]

I'll take my chances again if enough others want to jump in.

- Justin

[Jersey Mike]

Need at least 10 to make this worthwhile.

[Savage_Messiah]

$20?

[Jersey Mike]

Sure, you pleabeans.

[Mike]

Ok.

[Jersey Mike]

That would be 5, with Bear.

[PolarBear]

Dont count me in!

[NastyEllEssWon]

im in it to win it :D

[Jersey Mike]

Need 10 people by Monday, and then money by Tuesday. Otherwise no go.


1. Jersey Mike,
2. nasty
3. Mike
4. Fidget
5. Justin

[WSex]

cinderellas left slipper is gonna win count me in suckaaa

[Jersey Mike]

You never win anything.

But that's 6.

[WSex]

wanna do a side bet guy?

[Tru2Chevy]

$20 sounds fine with me.

Is 10 an absolute minimum, or could we get by with 8 if we got to that point?

- Justin

[WSex]

Lets just double up