If you could buy any car...

[WS6_CAIT]

brand new, under $30k, what would you get? I'm graduating after this school year and and am counting down the days until I can start shopping (once I have a job offer of course)! The problem is a majority of the cars I like either aren't made anymore or would be out of my price range haha (ZR1 anyone?)

[WayFast84]

2012 WRX. Fun, 4 door, good in all weather and pretty much the same as an STI with some minor changes, 1 less gear and smaller brakes.

[NastyEllEssWon]

scion frs

[nj85z28]

You can get a new camaro ss for under $30k if you go option the 1SS properly

[Mike]

Cruze ltz

[sweetbmxrider]

Volt if its under the $30k? Or cruze diesel

[richduty455]

I'd keep my T/A

[Blackbirdws6]

Depends on your needs. You want only new or will consider used?

Being economical, the Cruze Diesel would be a nice option out of school. Comfortable, great mileage and good overall car. The Subaru's are fun but the mileage isn't much to talk about and the insurance rates will kill you being young.

Not being economical, I would buy a used C6 if possible or a really nice C5Z. Insurance won't be attractive with this either but meh....

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Being economical, the Cruze Diesel would be a nice option out of school. Comfortable, great mileage and good overall car. The Subaru's are fun but the mileage isn't much to talk about and the insurance rates will kill you being young and a male.

What do you think the Cait in WS6 Cait is short for? Caitlin.

[LTb1ow]

05.5 and up Dmax, short of the new stuff, usually go mid $20s, buy a built trans and all the mods, throw a 200hp tune on it, success.

[1320B4U]

Used....2ss camaro or g37 maybe.

New.....Genesis coupe (or leftover)

[Mark B]

Used CTSV

[r0nin89]

Suburu BRZ for a new car.

Suzuki Equator for a new truck.

G8 for a used but newer car.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

brand new, under $30k, what would you get?

Why is reading so hard? :facepalm:. Brand new means NOT USED.

[KevinW]

Sonic LTZ, turbo, 6 speed, for $20K, built in the US, 29/40

over $30, I would get the Volt.

[WS6_CAIT]

I'd keep my T/A

The plan is to keep the TA too.

and I'm not opposed to buying used I just like the idea of having something brand new and shiney lol. Definitely a fan of the GTO or G8 if I were to buy used.

[coolmanvette75]

Not being economical, I would buy a used C6 if possible or a really nice C5Z. Insurance won't be attractive with this either but meh....

THIS :nod:

[88WS-6]

Suburu BRZ for a new car.

I'm leaning towards this also, but mostly because I auto-x and it will murder everything. :twisted:

[Blackbirdws6]

What do you think the Cait in WS6 Cait is short for? Caitlin.

Never met HER so I wouldn't know. We all don't stalk like you.

Why is reading so hard? :facepalm:. Brand new means NOT USED.

What's wrong with thinking outside the box?

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

I too, would go manual Sonic especially if you are keeping the t/a.

Never met HER so I wouldn't know. We all don't stalk like you.

What's wrong with thinking outside the box?

Never assume! Although I believe Cait would throw most people off.

And never assume you can go outside of someone's guidelines when they explicitly state something :wink:

[BurninrubberGT]

if your going new, WRX

[Blackbirdws6]

I too, would go manual Sonic especially if you are keeping the t/a.



Never assume! Although I believe Cait would throw most people off.

And never assume you can go outside of someone's guidelines when they explicitly state something :wink:

We can debate this somewhere else but I've never seen the name spelled that way. This is the internet, I can assume what I want and have nothing to lose.

Back to the topic, Miss Caitlin, if you are keeping the TA, then you may want to go for something purely economical. The GTO and G8 are nice options and certainly more comfortable, the fuel efficiency may of concern. I don't know what kind of commute you have or your priorities but since you are young, get more toys ;). If you are thinking long term, get something cheap and efficient while still meeting your needs. You have been given many good options here.

[WayFast84]

I'm leaning towards this also, but mostly because I auto-x and it will murder everything. :twisted:

after you get a set of tires...

[WildBillyT]

We can debate this somewhere else but I've never seen the name spelled that way. This is the internet, I can assume what I want and have nothing to lose.

Back to the topic, Miss Caitlin, if you are keeping the TA, then you may want to go for something purely economical. The GTO and G8 are nice options and certainly more comfortable, the fuel efficiency may of concern. I don't know what kind of commute you have or your priorities but since you are young, get more toys ;). If you are thinking long term, get something cheap and efficient while still meeting your needs. You have been given many good options here.

Agreed. If you are keeping your toy car, buy something economical and easy to deal with. Having a daily car helps if you have to do something like haul dirty parts, park in an airport parking lot for a few days, drive people around, etc. Stuff you may not think about now, but if you keep the car for a few years you might have a need then. After filling with premium gas, buying 275/40s, synthetic oil changes, and such start to add up.

[Tru2Chevy]

Personally I would be shopping for a new Malibu, but the Sonic or Cruze would both be a good option for you. As has been mentioned, the Cruze diesel is supposed to be available around the middle of next year, so that would definitely be something to keep in mind.

- Justin

[Paul Huryk]

Buying an expensive car right after graduation typically is a mistake - I have a dozen friends who did that over the years, all of them ended up in financial trouble because of it.

Besides, new cars depreciate - why would you want to lose value like crazy once you drive it home?

[shadowfire]

the new 2012 kawasaki ninja zx-14

[WS6_CAIT]

Buying an expensive car right after graduation typically is a mistake - I have a dozen friends who did that over the years, all of them ended up in financial trouble because of it.

Besides, new cars depreciate - why would you want to lose value like crazy once you drive it home?

Getting a new car will definitely depend on getting a job offer and being in a good situation financially, but yeah your 2nd point is something I'll take into consideration. Like I said I'm not opposed to buying used, just wanted to get everyone's opinion :)

[shadowfire]

Getting a new car will definitely depend on getting a job offer and being in a good situation financially, but yeah your 2nd point is something I'll take into consideration. Like I said I'm not opposed to buying used, just wanted to get everyone's opinion :)

the bike is great on gas and faster then almost any car lol

[WS6_CAIT]

the bike is great on gas and faster then almost any car lol

haha a bike will be next on my list

[SilverDropTop]

If your not opposed to used, get a G8 GT or GXP. Just drove mine to St Louis and back and got 26.2 mpg with mods in sig and DOD turned off.

[BigAls87Z28]

Sonic LTZ, turbo, 6 speed, for $20K, built in the US, 29/40

over $30, I would get the Volt.

Sonic RS pricing was released today at just under 21k. No power upgrades, but 4 wheel disk brakes, tighter ratio on for the 6spd, lower suspension, nicer seats, flat bottom steering wheel, and Chevy's new MyLink system for their small cars which I had a chance to check out yesterday. Very good and the $50 Navigation app will trump every single in-car navi system out there. People should be shouting from the rooftops how innovative this is.

For the record, I am seriously considering the Sonic RS and as soon as I get to test one, I will report back.

Getting a new car will definitely depend on getting a job offer and being in a good situation financially, but yeah your 2nd point is something I'll take into consideration. Like I said I'm not opposed to buying used, just wanted to get everyone's opinion :)

Buying a year old car will make more financial sense, especially with the job market the way it is. I don't know what you are going to school for, but I wish you luck.

Don't be worried about a 1-2 year old used car, but think in terms of taking care of it and costs of ownership along with your TA and other things.

[BonzoHansen]

I wouldn't touch a cruze diesel in the first model year, no way. Let other suckers be gm's guinea pigs. I'd also pass on a dead name plate as a daily driver. My sister is having issues getting parts, like a window regulator that went bad in her vibe. I had to wait for parts for my olds, and as time goes on parts will only get harder to get.

[WildBillyT]

I wouldn't touch a cruze diesel in the first model year, no way. Let other suckers be gm's guinea pigs. I'd also pass on a dead name plate as a daily driver. My sister is having issues getting parts, like a window regulator that went bad in her vibe. I had to wait for parts for my olds, and as time goes on parts will only get harder to get.

QFT. I am in the market for something to replace my Malibu, and I am strongly looking at diesels. I'd like to stay GM/American but it's way too big a risk.

[LTb1ow]

I wouldn't touch a cruze diesel in the first model year, no way. Let other suckers be gm's guinea pigs. I'd also pass on a dead name plate as a daily driver. My sister is having issues getting parts, like a window regulator that went bad in her vibe. I had to wait for parts for my olds, and as time goes on parts will only get harder to get.

QFT. I am in the market for something to replace my Malibu, and I am strongly looking at diesels. I'd like to stay GM/American but it's way too big a risk.

Inb4 Al, but the diesel engine in em has already been out at least a year or so in foreign versions of the Cruze.

And VMI makes the diesels in the Jeeps, dunno how great they are, but again, their already out there. GM learned their lesson, outsource diesel engine design. :rofl:

[88WS-6]

after you get a set of tires...

Depends on the tires because different tires mean different classes. I would stay stock and just invest in winter tires.

[greenformula92]

Any car thats a manual and a turbo diesel. I hate to say it cause I hate Volkswagen but the TDI Jetta and Passat are nice cars and get like 50 MPG on the highway and are both can be had well under 30k depending on the option package. The downside is they can be expensive to maintain and you absolutely have to run synthetic diesel approved oil. But if your a maintinence stickler it will run forever. My uncle had a 2000 Gulf TDI that he bought new up until about a year ago because it got hit but it had well over 300k on it and still ran and drove like it was new. but he is a maintance stickler.

[1320B4U]

Buy preowned then...warranties up to 100k+ but cheaper than new. If your keeping the t/a i'd suggest something economical and logistical. I have 5 cars in my household and 2 of which are suv's and they are the most used and needed....winter reliance, towing ability, hauling people and supplies. TBSS, JGC SRT-8 used..awesome.

[Mark B]

Buy preowned then...warranties up to 100k+ but cheaper than new. If your keeping the t/a i'd suggest something economical and logistical. I have 5 cars in my household and 2 of which are suv's and they are the most used and needed....winter reliance, towing ability, hauling people and supplies. TBSS, JGC SRT-8 used..awesome.

What he said. If you are keepting the TA there is no need for another toy. And buying new doesnt make sense to me.

[Slow-V6]

G8's are really nice. Wust drove ours to Utah and back and with 5 people and a trunk full of crap we got 24 mpg and the thing uses regular unleaded as well..The problem with the G8 is around town it gets crappy mpg.. 18 or so city driving. Next time we see u when we have our G8 I will see if my wife will let you take it for a drive and see what you think.

C5 or now even some C6 vettes are really nice and fun to drive. I picked up my vette for 13,000..

We bought our Hyndai brand new back in 2006 and we traded it in 6 yrs later and they gave us 3500 for it.We paid around 20,000 for it and with 66,000 the trade in was around 3800 for a Elauntra. That is the last brand new car I will ever buy.


Its nice to have more then 1 toy. Everyday is a different driving expierence and you appreciate each car more everytime you drive it.

[WS6_CAIT]

What he said. If you are keepting the TA there is no need for another toy. And buying new doesnt make sense to me.

what would you guys suggest if I decided not to keep the TA? So I'd want it to be a toy and a DD?

Assuming I continue to work where I am now at Lockheed Martin I'd have a 30 minute commute each way to work, which I'm used to doing now with my trans am and the sucky gas mileage.

Next time we see u when we have our G8 I will see if my wife will let you take it for a drive and see what you think.

That'd be awesome thanks Jeff!

With everyone's advice I'm definitely starting to change my mind about buying brand new

[LTb1ow]

Just buy a comfy, gas efficient, reliable beater. Use the TA for weekend drives and nice days to work.

[shadowfire]

what would you guys suggest if I decided not to keep the TA? So I'd want it to be a toy and a DD?

Assuming I continue to work where I am now at Lockheed Martin I'd have a 30 minute commute each way to work, which I'm used to doing now with my trans am and the sucky gas mileage.



That'd be awesome thanks Jeff!

With everyone's advice I'm definitely starting to change my mind about buying brand new

ok if you work at lockheed martin, you sould make a few good dollars right? if you got rid of the ta then i would go with the 2014 impala ss

[WayFast84]

Buying an expensive car right after graduation typically is a mistake - I have a dozen friends who did that over the years, all of them ended up in financial trouble because of it.

Besides, new cars depreciate - why would you want to lose value like crazy once you drive it home?WRX's hardly depreciate. There's a 2011 with 65k(NO MORE WARRANTY) on it that just sold for 21k and 08's still selling near the 20's.

Depends on the tires because different tires mean different classes. I would stay stock and just invest in winter tires.

I'm not trying to be a subaru fan boy here but

The WRX was a second faster than the BRZ around a track, the BRZ was 2 seconds slower than a Miata but with a tire change(with cheaper tires than stock) the BRZ beat both. If the BRZ had some more power it would be one of the best bang for the buck cars ever made.

Just went to the dealer today. 2.9 % financing on WRX's, 10 week build time.

Scion has the FRS and is cheaper than the BRZ but no standard navigation and has $1000 off for being a recent grad. If you don't want a boring FWD car but also don't want a V6 Mustang or Camaro, these are the best options hand's down.

Just remember BRZ/FRS = sports car WRX/STI = rally car.

[WildBillyT]

Just buy a comfy, gas efficient, reliable beater. Use the TA for weekend drives and nice days to work.

This is easily the best kind of advice.

Premium gas is not great in a DD. Expensive brakes and tires is not great in a DD. Bad in the snow is not great in a DD. I will go out on a limb and say in a lot of cases AWD is detrimental as well.

[12secondv6]

Dodge neon! :mrgreen:

[88WS-6]

If the BRZ had some more power it would be one of the best bang for the buck cars ever made.

Just remember BRZ/FRS = sports car WRX/STI = rally car.

Agreed, BRZ is under powered.

WRX has no chance in autocross against the BRZ plus they are in two different classes. 2dr vs. 4 dr, FR vs. AWD, different weights, dimensions, etc...

I don't want either of them, I'm just saying if I hit the lotto, I'd check out the BRZ for cars under 30k. My brother had an 08 WRX 5spd, nav. Very nice car but terrible gas mileage. He traded it in for that new Lexus hybrid station wagon looking thing.

[greenformula92]

My Legacy GT is fun to drive but the whole point of me buying it was MPG. Yes I know its AWD and turbo and I couldn't stop myself from modding it but im still averaging about 23-24 MPG per tank, but that is really paying to attention to gas pedal position, if i drive aggressively for a week I ber it would average 18 or less. Hindsight being 20/20 I should of bought something more fuel efficient for a communter. That being said the AWD and turbo is a lot of fun even if the Legacy's suspension is a little soft compared to the WRX, and STI

[BigAls87Z28]

ok if you work at lockheed martin, you sould make a few good dollars right? if you got rid of the ta then i would go with the 2014 impala ss

There is no such animal.
There will be an SS performance sedan, and there will be a 2014 Impala. Two different cars.

[Blacdout96]

Id get an RX8, if there is any left on the lot, or a Subaru BRZ/Toyota FR-S.

[Blacdout96]

If the BRZ had some more power it would be one of the best bang for the buck cars ever made.
The power is just fine, the car is 200HP/ > 2,800lbs = 14:1, and with a 53/47 weight distribution, that's just fine for someone who wants a sporty car and can be danced on the edge grip/drift and be a little forgiving if taken to a proper facility to test that. Adding more power is only going to ruin the handling characteristics IMO. The point of this car is not speed, but handling in spirited driving/autocross/test n tune.



Just remember BRZ/FRS = sports car WRX/STI = rally car.

No one needs a rally car in Jersey, there's no where around here to do it, and unless you've attended a rally school, I say don't attempt to go down a back road and attempt a Sebastian Loeb. Though I do like Evo's/Subie's, and I thought about owning one, their use around here is moderate at best since we do have bad winters, but unless you compete in auto crossing, or track on occasion, which 9 out of 10 owners do not, they are pointless to own.

[88WS-6]

The point of this car is not speed, but handling in spirited driving/autocross/test n tune.

Yup. :nod:



And don't get me wrong WayFast, there are some really fast WRX/STI cars that I've seen running the cones, but the handling characteristics, firm steering and smaller size are what make the BRZ a better auto-x car.

[jam01]

first think of what you want, not what everyone else wants. i personally hate Japanese and such cars, there expensive to fix same as European cars. i was just going over this with my daughter, she wanted a used mercedes, bmw or volvo. this is her first car and i tried explaining that along with a payment she would have to insure it and more than likely have to make repairs sooner than later. just make sure you buy something that you can live with for at least as long as the loan, dont settle

[Slow-V6]

Dont get a car that you will be bored of or just settled for. It will bother you everytime you drive it. Thats what I did with my C4 Vette.. Wanted a C5 but settled for a C4. Got sick of it 4 months down the road and traded it in on a C5.

I loved my Nissan 300zx. It was a beutifull car. Problem was when **** broke it was damn exspensive. I never thought that a car 18 yrs old it would still cost around 1000 for a used CPU!!

As far as using 93 octane on a daily driver.. The G8's run on 87!! The car did good in the little snow we got this year.


I would go test drive cars and see what you think.. Some dealers will let you take cars over night or over the weekend to see if you like them.

[NastyEllEssWon]

WRX is inspired by a rally car but its by no means a rally car. take a stock subaru off roading and you're not going to be pulling 3 feet jumps and ultra cool edge of the road power slides.


The FRS/BRZ reminds me of the 240's of the day. its not meant for huge power, but it'll row through some choppy waves :D

[shadowfire]

so what did you pick?

[1320B4U]

If you get rid of the t/a buy something that fits all molds. Relatively good gas mileage, stick (stick cars seem to hold your attention longer-a drivers car), WINTER ability (yes a rwd can make it thru almost anything w/blizzacks and weight but you want the proven ability to go anywhere at anytime), and can haul people (2 seaters lose their appeal to your friends when they always have to drive).

I've had almost everytype of car...come to think of it every type (2 seater/ 4 seater/ small and large pickup, suv's, sedans etc...you want something that is a 'jack of all trades' if its going to be your only car...wrx sti /evo VIII or under imo (its an f'ing shame what the new ones are)..g37x coupe or built suv...tbss/gc srt-8 (i say it again..lol)...even a wrangler will appeal to a lot of folks due to the 4-season fun factor but if speed is what you want you'll have to take the drug for that car. One of the best cars i've ever owned was when i traded in my '89 iroc on a '90 talon tsi/awd..for college it was the best..and moded was even better..got over a 120k and 8 years out of a used awd car that really fit all the desires i needed at the time. I just came back from carlisle in the vette and was happy to get outta that thing...have to monitor roads, inclines, dead animals in the street, etc..gets old fast.

[WS6_CAIT]

so what did you pick?

Nothing yet, still plenty of time to think about it and take everyone's suggestions into consideration

[BonzoHansen]

lol the subaru is about as much a rally car as the camaro is a giant robot

[NastyEllEssWon]

lol the subaru is about as much a rally car as the camaro is a giant robot



ah scott you made my day with this one. i love how everyone hears WRX or EVO and they say OH ITS A RALLY CAR. lol even the STI when compared to the actual rally off road Impreza's are completely different.

[WayFast84]

First off I'm not trying to hijack.The power is just fine, the car is 200HP/ > 2,800lbs = 14:1, and with a 53/47 weight distribution, that's just fine for someone who wants a sporty car and can be danced on the edge grip/drift and be a little forgiving if taken to a proper facility to test that. Adding more power is only going to ruin the handling characteristics IMO. The point of this car is not speed, but handling in spirited driving/autocross/test n tune.





No one needs a rally car in Jersey, there's no where around here to do it, and unless you've attended a rally school, I say don't attempt to go down a back road and attempt a Sebastian Loeb. Though I do like Evo's/Subie's, and I thought about owning one, their use around here is moderate at best since we do have bad winters, but unless you compete in auto crossing, or track on occasion, which 9 out of 10 owners do not, they are pointless to own.

No one NEED's any performance car. 9/10 Sports cars owners don't go to the track either so the wrx is just like any other car. They are not pointless to own. We all have DD's and beaters and park our cars in the winter but the wrx is a performance car that can be just as quick, handle better and be good in the snow. Got kid's? This car just go much more practical huh?

Also I disagree with you on the power aspect of the BRZ. Throw on a set of better tires on it and give it 25 more horses and more torque and it would be a much better car, 0-60 in 6.7 seconds? That's a joke. WHEN the turbo brz comes out with more power, it's gonna be a BEAST.

WRX is inspired by a rally car but its by no means a rally car. take a stock subaru off roading and you're not going to be pulling 3 feet jumps and ultra cool edge of the road power slides.



Agreed. Plus if you take a 38k STI on jumps :shock:

lol the subaru is about as much a rally car as the camaro is a giant robot

:kneeslap:

[sweetbmxrider]

My friend just bought a subaru brz, pretty nice looking car. Little unique rwd sports car with some creature comforts like navi, heated seats, etc.

[WildBillyT]

First off I'm not trying to hijack.

No one NEED's any performance car. 9/10 Sports cars owners don't go to the track either so the wrx is just like any other car. They are not pointless to own. We all have DD's and beaters and park our cars in the winter but the wrx is a performance car that can be just as quick, handle better and be good in the snow. Got kid's? This car just go much more practical huh?


I don't think it's hijacking when you bring in real life slapping a motorhead in the face. It's stuff that can mean keeping a car long term and having a big :facepalm: when you realize that life changed and the "practical" car you bought really wasn't so practical.

Granted, I kept my Malibu for true DD duty, but I realized this with my Trans Am a month or two ago. That's why it's for sale. I don't want to sell it since it's a great driver now but it doesn't make sense to have anymore. Too far to drive to work, no place to store it, and no reason for 2 weekend only cars at this point in my life.

Jobs move, people move, gas prices go up, you have to park in crowded supermarkets with metal carts, you have to drive in snow/on salt, etc etc. You don't need to buy a frigging Daewoo to suffer through every day (as that would get boring as hell) but giving yourself too much leeway on the "fun" part of the equation might make you buy something you have to dump later (and lose $ on).

Regarding the WRX, AWD doesn't always equal great in the snow. You need proper tires for that, and that's not bringing ground clearance into the equation. The WRX is also not a great car with kids. The monumental amount of crap you have to haul with you would not fit. Granted it would be fine for dropping a kid at day care and maybe going to the supermarket, but forget about going to the beach, etc. And that's talking about only 1 kid. 2, forget it altogether. Yeah, most of the people on here aren't thinking that far ahead, but if you do, ending up with no car payment when a kid is born is really a big deal.

I get that none of this really makes a popular response on a performance car forum, but in my eyes that's the way it is.

[88WS-6]

Don't forget that kids = chicken nuggets and coca cola in your back seat.

Usually not a good mod for WRXs or any sports cars...

[WS6_CAIT]

I would just like to point out that I'm not planning on having kids anytime soon haha although I can see why that would be an important factor to consider for some people

[NastyEllEssWon]

I would just like to point out that I'm not planning on having kids anytime soon haha although I can see why that would be an important factor to consider for some people



lol neither did i 10 years ago.....needless to say my son is 9 :D

[Blacdout96]

lol the subaru is about as much a rally car as the camaro is a giant robot

It may not be a WRC car off the lot, but to a young person, many believe they can join the starting line after installing their Cobb shifter :lol: , that's the problem, and why many are wrapped around a tree or lamp post.

[Blacdout96]

Oh and one thing if I may point out about the BRZ/FR-S, the seats are not for the wide variety of people. I'm a size 34 waist, and the sides were pinching me in it, so if you have a few extra pounds, you might want to take that into consideration.

[1320B4U]

When i think wrx i think sti and when i think sti i conjure images of a new 2012-13 white wagon sti myself.....love the wagons. Thats a decent family cruiser...i don't think 1 kid makes you need a minivan or escalade, my parents did fine w/a sentra and 2nd gen. An awd sti has around 7" of ground clearance...enough for snow drifts...if you put snows on that thing you can go anywhere as long as your not a retard. Don't get me wrong, im no subaru fanatic but turbo/awd/seating for 5 just makes sense for someones only car.

[LTb1ow]

I think this thread has proven why you should all be driving a 4x4 crew cab denali Dmax 2500.

[BigAls87Z28]

I think this thread has proven why you should all be driving a 4x4 crew cab denali Dmax 2500.

/thread.

[Blacdout96]

Nothing says blocking out the sun like Rolling Coal.

[LTb1ow]

Nothing says blocking out the sun like Rolling Coal.

Where did you see the word cummins in anything I said? :lol:

[NJ Torque]

I think this thread has proven why you should all be driving a 4x4 crew cab denali Dmax 2500.


Sold.:bertstare:

[1320B4U]

haha

[WayFast84]

It may not be a WRC car off the lot, but to a young person, many believe they can join the starting line after installing their Cobb shifter :lol: , that's the problem, and why many are wrapped around a tree or lamp post.

You act like this doesn't go for any car a young and wreckless kid would drive. I've had my license for 4 years, in and out of fast cars, and bikes and I have 0 tickets and 0 accidents.

You must work for an insurance company..

[69RSZ]

get a Impala or Malibu, but if you want somethin a little more sporty get in a camaro V6 with 300hp and still get 29MPG and the insurance wont kill ya.The Impala and malibu are very nice rideing cars and get 30+ MPG depending on the engine choice and they are nice inside too!!My choice would be the camaro V6 and put some stripes on the car :)

[Blacdout96]

I do like the Chevy Sonic, and thought about my wife getting one, but my only problem is they are still relatively new to the market per-say. I usually like to give a couple years to allow any factory defects show up and be corrected, but they did do something right when designing those headlights. You'd spend sub 20K, and have a ride that will have a huge aftermarket soon.

[NastyEllEssWon]

You act like this doesn't go for any car a young and wreckless kid would drive. I've had my license for 4 years, in and out of fast cars, and bikes and I have 0 tickets and 0 accidents.

You must work for an insurance company..



yeah but most peoples cars have to run so they can crash it :D

[Slow-V6]

There is a 09 G8 GXP F/S on ebay with a Buy it now of 18,000. Its located in Brick NJ.

[1320B4U]

I've never seen soo much love for the g8 than on this forum.

[Slow-V6]

I've never seen soo much love for the g8 than on this forum.



I know its weird.. GM car talk on a GM forum!! Who would have thought it?

I have always loved the G8 since it 1st came out. Now that we own one we love it even more. Nothing like running a 13.6@103 bone stock in a 4 door on 87 octane!! Cant wait to get some headers, full exhaust, and maybe break a 12 second pass all while running regular unleaded!!

[Featherburner]

I've never seen soo much love for the g8 than on this forum.Really? You'll find more love for it here... http://forum.grrrr8.net/forum.php
Imagine that, an entire forum about a car!

[LTb1ow]

Really? You'll find more love for it here... http://forum.grrrr8.net/forum.php
Imagine that, an entire forum about a car!

An obsolete car made by a non existent car company none the less!

[The_Bishop]

Wait, Pontiac is gone?! I was gonna buy an Aztec next year!

[LTb1ow]

Wait, Pontiac is gone?! I was gonna buy an Aztec next year!

Their gone until the new Trans Am comes out.

[1320B4U]

An obsolete car made by a non existent car company none the less!

Thanks dude....post 1 comment on a g8 and its blasphemy...wtf....and whats better than running 13's in a 4dr?....doing it by shifting it yourself.

http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv143/B1320B4U/fbf2.jpg

[LTb1ow]

Thanks dude....post 1 comment on a g8 and its blasphemy...wtf....and whats better than running 13's in a 4dr?....doing it by shifting it yourself.


Uh what?

Lesson one, everything I post is either tongue in check, or sarcastic.

Lesson two, I would love a stryker blue G8.

Lesson three, a 7k lb crew cab truck running 12s is better. :lol:

[sweetbmxrider]

I'd like myself a poor man's cadillac :D

[Slow-V6]

I dont know about that one.. I think Running 13's in a 4 door on 87 octane is better then running 13's in a GXP. Just my thoughts. Every car that I ever owned that ran 13's had to run 93 octane.

[1320B4U]

Don't take me seriously either...:()

[LTb1ow]

Don't take me seriously either...:()

Never know, some people take this interwebz thing way to seriously :nod:

And you people and your fancy high octane gas... guess that makes running 13s on just regular old diesel that much better. :mrgreen:

[Mike]

Thanks dude....post 1 comment on a g8 and its blasphemy...wtf....and whats better than running 13's in a 4dr?....doing it by shifting it yourself.

http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv143/B1320B4U/fbf2.jpg

running 12s, 11s, 10s, and so on? not all that much great about running 13s

[Slow-V6]

Never know, some people take this interwebz thing way to seriously :nod:

And you people and your fancy high octane gas... guess that makes running 13s on just regular old diesel that much better. :mrgreen:



Whatever floats your boat!!


Its a nice thing to have a daily driver thats as fast as my Vette and runs the cheapest priced gas out there all the time!

[Mike]

You act like this doesn't go for any car a young and wreckless kid would drive. I've had my license for 4 years, in and out of fast cars, and bikes and I have 0 tickets and 0 accidents.

You must work for an insurance company..

doing stupid things, and getting caught doing stupid things, are completely different

[Featherburner]

Uh what?

Lesson one, everything I post is either tongue in check, or sarcastic.

Lesson two, I would love a stryker blue G8.

Lesson three, a 7k lb crew cab truck running 12s is better. :lol:

Best color they make! Fastest, too!:lol:

[LTb1ow]

doing stupid things, and getting caught doing stupid things, are completely different

Didn't that guy light his car on fire or something? Or am I thinking of the guy who make a trans am into a sunfire?

Best color they make! Fastest, too!:lol:

You and BLS, watch your cars ;)

[Slow-V6]

running 12s, 11s, 10s, and so on? not all that much great about running 13s



After being at the track last night during import night and watching all those 15,14,13 second fully built hondas out there yeah I am very happy that our daily driver runs 13's. This is the 1st daily driver that is actually a blast to drive, runs whith stock C5 vettes ( which most of them out there are), and uses the cheapest gas possible for daily driving a car!

All my other daily drivers used 87 octane and were slow as **** or drove like crap like my jeep..

[Mike]

After being at the track last night during import night and watching all those 15,14,13 second fully built hondas out there yeah I am very happy that our daily driver runs 13's. This is the 1st daily driver that is actually a blast to drive, runs whith stock C5 vettes ( which most of them out there are), and uses the cheapest gas possible for daily driving a car!

All my other daily drivers used 87 octane and were slow as **** or drove like crap like my jeep..

those hondas arent fully built, or, built by morons. and i guess on a sight where performance cars are all that matter, the cheapest gas is a great argument?

[LTb1ow]

those hondas arent fully built, or, built by morons. and i guess on a sight where performance cars are all that matter, the cheapest gas is a great argument?

Diesel is cheaper than premium lately, awww yea :lol:

ok /fanboi :kneeslap:

[Slow-V6]

those hondas arent fully built, or, built by morons. and i guess on a sight where performance cars are all that matter, the cheapest gas is a great argument?


Nope but when someone is looking for a daily driver it is! I aint having a argument either. There are many reasons not to get a G8..

They get crappy gas miles around town.. Usually 20mpg city driving 25-28 highway, they are big and sometimes tuff to park, There are many blind spots, Hard to find parts for since they dont make them anymore.

Built by morons or not a early integra with which I assume is a fully built b18 and a type r head running mid 14's to me is not so good. A fully built B16 Hatch with June stage 2 cams ( think he said which means nothing to me) running high 13's while fully stripped to me is not to good.

When I hear built bottom end with ported heads and cams to me means fully built motor!! I dont know how it is defined in the Honda world so if I pissed you off or offended you I apologize..

[WildBillyT]

Biggest reason IMO is that not too many were made and Pontiac is a ghost. So finding replacement parts might be a bitch. Yes, GM is supporting it for a little bit but that doesn't mean parts are always in stock, etc.

[Mike]

Not pissed off or offended. I just know quite a few people with very fast Hondas both na and boosted. There are many with simple bolt ins that are faster than the cars you mentioned

[88WS-6]

Biggest reason IMO is that not too many were made and Pontiac is a ghost. So finding replacement parts might be a bitch. Yes, GM is supporting it for a little bit but that doesn't mean parts are always in stock, etc.

I would be afraid of that too, but there is a little more hope since they made the PPV. You can actually buy one here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Caprice-WE-FINANCE-2011-CHEVY-CAPRICE-PPV-POLICE-PATROL-6-0-V8-ONLY-627-MI-/110940797202?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19d4963912

[BigAls87Z28]

I've never seen soo much love for the g8 than on this forum.

You need to get out more then.

An obsolete car made by a non existent car company none the less!

Their gone until the new Trans Am comes out.

This guy


Biggest reason IMO is that not too many were made and Pontiac is a ghost. So finding replacement parts might be a bitch. Yes, GM is supporting it for a little bit but that doesn't mean parts are always in stock, etc.

I don't see that as a problem since Holden is still a huge part of GM and that Holden even used the Pontiac face as part of a special appearance package to sell through some of the left over production parts.
Getting the parts might be a problem, but they should still be available.

[Slow-V6]

Biggest reason IMO is that not too many were made and Pontiac is a ghost. So finding replacement parts might be a bitch. Yes, GM is supporting it for a little bit but that doesn't mean parts are always in stock, etc.

We are going through that right now. We have had a bad exhaust muffler since we bought it back in March and the dealer just got the exhaust system in. Cool thing is they are gonna replace the whole exhaust system from the Manifolds back.


Not pissed off or offended. I just know quite a few people with very fast Hondas both na and boosted. There are many with simple bolt ins that are faster than the cars you mentioned

I hear you. Just wanted to make sure. I know some fast hondas as well and there were a handfull at the track running 12 seconds or faster but there was also a stock Automatic C6 vette running 11.7@118mph there and everyone one in the stands couldnt believe it was stock!! I know I am comparing apples to oranges but even for me with dumping 6 grand in my t/a to run the same mph as a stock vette I feel a little pissed.

[k_garretson23]

lol wow. Funny what simple advise turns into. I agree with the g8 comments, but also something to look at would be the bmw 335i or xi..twin turbo/6 speed with a few mods can really move out. All while being comfortable and luxurious. although they are a little hard to find in your price range theyre not impossible to find.

[Mike]

lol wow. Funny what simple advise turns into. I agree with the g8 comments, but also something to look at would be the bmw 335i or xi..twin turbo/6 speed with a few mods can really move out. All while being comfortable and luxurious. although they are a little hard to find in your price range theyre not impossible to find.

Maintenance on an out of warranty high mileage (to get into her price range) turbo BMW could be crippling

[greenformula92]

A year after I bought my Turbo Legacy GT (just a comfy WRX but a little more power lol) my ideals have changed a little and to be honest I wish I would have bought with noting but fuel economy in mind. It's a DD...in essence it's a beater. It's too nice to be a beater but it is. the mileage is racking on and theres really nothing I can do about it. and because that it's not worth as much. which means I am stuck with it. In retrospect I would of bought something that got more than 30 MPG and can run on 87 or diesel and not 92 which has been 4.00/gallon.

[Slow-V6]

. In retrospect I would of bought something that got more than 30 MPG and can run on 87 or diesel and not 92 which has been 4.00/gallon.

But this is a performance website so why would you want to run on anything but 93?? j/k.

[1320B4U]

You need to get out more then.





I guess i should venture out more but i want to get 13k posts too coolio.

[LTb1ow]

I guess i should venture out more but i want to get 13k posts too coolio.

Just start replying to everything I post. Should get you there.

[Slow-V6]

Just start replying to everything I post. Should get you there.

Good idea!!

[sweetbmxrider]

I guess i should venture out more but i want to get 13k posts too coolio.

Anyone can get 13k posts. Its those who can do it in 4 years that truly shine.

[12secondv6]

Dodge Neon

Better rally car than an STI, WRX and EVO

Better weight distribution than the BRZ

More torque than the cummins diesel

Runs on regular

Doesn't need a B16, 2JZ or R134 A to go fast.

I crack myself up

[BonzoHansen]

Dodge Neon

Better rally car than an STI, WRX and EVO

Better weight distribution than the BRZ

More torque than the cummins diesel

Runs on regular

Doesn't need a B16, 2JZ or R134 A to go fast.

I crack myself up
be careful....

[WS6_CAIT]

1. just found out I'll be getting a job offer so a new car is definitely in my future
2. slowly falling in love with the brz/frs
although I'm sure my mind will change 100 times

[k_garretson23]

ive heard that flat 4 has oiling issues. Id wait apparently their coming out with a turbo "sti" version.

[3rdGenHardtop]

ive heard that flat 4 has oiling issues. Id wait apparently their coming out with a turbo "sti" version.

One oiling issue has been addressed. There's a Prescreen inline with one of the banjo bolts for the turbo. Easy to fix by pulling it out, but can easily kill a turbo.

http://store.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/graphics/subaru_oil/Subaru-Mysterious090108.pdf

[greenformula92]

One oiling issue has been addressed. There's a Prescreen inline with one of the banjo bolts for the turbo. Easy to fix by pulling it out, but can easily kill a turbo.

http://store.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/graphics/subaru_oil/Subaru-Mysterious090108.pdf


Thats for the LGT, WRX, and STI....BRZ is non-turbo...and rear wheel drive...therefore not a subaru :nod:

[WayFast84]

1. just found out I'll be getting a job offer so a new car is definitely in my future
2. slowly falling in love with the brz/frs
although I'm sure my mind will change 100 times

Just a heads up. Scion has a college grad program which will knock off $1000 on the spot, Subaru is less. $500-300 is what I heard.

[greenformula92]

Just keep in mind that Subarus are a little high maintinance so if your not a maintinance stickler you may want to look elsewhere. If you want I can give you a run down of the maint schedule of mine to get an idea what your in for

[88WS-6]

Thats for the LGT, WRX, and STI....BRZ is non-turbo...and rear wheel drive...therefore not a subaru :nod:

Just keep in mind that Subarus are a little high maintinance

:lol:

I've heard it called a Toyobaru.

[3rdGenHardtop]

Thats for the LGT, WRX, and STI....BRZ is non-turbo...and rear wheel drive...therefore not a subaru :nod:

Whoops. That's what I get for not reading. Missed the part where it was about the BRZ.

[WS6_CAIT]

Just a heads up. Scion has a college grad program which will knock off $1000 on the spot, Subaru is less. $500-300 is what I heard.

that's good to know, I'll definitely look more into it.

Just keep in mind that Subarus are a little high maintinance so if your not a maintinance stickler you may want to look elsewhere. If you want I can give you a run down of the maint schedule of mine to get an idea what your in for

I may take you up on this once I get closer to actually deciding what to buy. thanks!

[coolmanvette75]

Dodge Dart SRT4 when it comes out next year. Fun, sporty, and cheap...

[88WS-6]

Dodge Dart SRT4 when it comes out next year. Fun, sporty, and cheap...

Yea but Tom Brady? Really?...

[greenformula92]

that's good to know, I'll definitely look more into it.



I may take you up on this once I get closer to actually deciding what to buy. thanks!

No problem just PM if you decide to go that route

[1320B4U]

Yea but Tom Brady? Really?...

They had to get him to do it...cupholders big enough to hold a bowl of New England Clam Chowder.

[zuuhlsT/A]

Also please consider the hotness he's married to. That guy's got freaking spectacular taste.

[BigAls87Z28]

1. just found out I'll be getting a job offer so a new car is definitely in my future
2. slowly falling in love with the brz/frs
although I'm sure my mind will change 100 times


Drove a FRS this past week. Wooooooow, what an amazing car. Problem is that the interior materials wouldn't be good in a 1992 Corolla. If you can put up with that, then you should totally fall in love with the car. Was my 2nd favorite car to drive this past week, right after the Camaro SS 1LE.

[WS6_CAIT]

So the car search has started and I'm selling the WS6. I'll be commuting 100 miles 5 days a week to King of Prussia for work so sadly a G8 is not gonna get the gas mileage I need, although I checked out a stryker blue GT and loved it. Also looked at a BRZ but it might as well be a 2 seater considering there's hardly any space for passengers in the back seat (even with me being short and sitting close to the steering wheel). Currently exploring 4 cylinder turbo cars to get good mpgs and still have some power. And I've decided to go the used route because buying brand new and putting that many miles on it just doesn't make sense.

[WildBillyT]

Diesel.

[NJSPEEDER]

Pagani Huayra, quickest 0-200-0 car in the world :)

Aim high to achieve

[Tru2Chevy]

Hang on a few more months for the diesel cruze! (It's so easy to spend someone else's money.....)

- Justin

[V]

take over my lease, 10 months left, and see if you like the cruze. lol

[Slow-V6]

Get something you love because you love it! Dont get something because of gas miles. Dont settle on something. If you really love that G8 then get it! You will be much more happy with the G8 then a car that gets better gas miles! The G8 gets around 18 mph city and 24 on the highway but it runs on 87 octane gas! We went from a Hyndai Elautra which got 30mpg to our G8 and we have not looked back! The car is just awesome!

[Z28 Heritage]

G8 Firehawk

[Paul Huryk]

Personally if it could be something not meant to be a DD, I would buy a used LS3 C6 throw some bolt-ons and nitrous and call it a day...

[Blacdout96]

We have a Cruze in our showroom, 2012 leftover, fire engine red, but 6 speed and Turbo, they just want to get rid of it, last I saw it was down to 17k. I want it, but the red keeps me away, and I'm still in the market for a 05-06 blue mini cooper s.