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Phoenixfire1989
09-13-2012, 08:18 PM
My stereo system has been going haywire for quite some time now. Can someone help me? I think it's a possible loose wire. I'll be driving and my subs will go in and out in the back, and the back speakers behind the sails i had to remove cause they weren't making any sound..they were just crackling. Everything as far as i knew was getting power on a meter..so i'm unsure what's going wrong.
BullittSVT
09-13-2012, 09:44 PM
Could be a crappy ground
3rdGenHardtop
09-14-2012, 09:04 PM
Could be a crappy ground
This, or any number of other things. I need more information to help you, but i'm sure I can help you.
jam01
09-15-2012, 10:40 AM
is this a stock system? what year and model? if aftermarket who installed it ?
NJ Torque
09-15-2012, 10:44 AM
Sing to yourself.
Phoenixfire1989
09-15-2012, 11:32 PM
if i turn the volume up very loud the back subs go out. The sail speakers don't work at all. I'm unsure if maybe the alternator isn't putting out enough power since ive been having charging issues, but it doesn't seem to matter how high its charged..its still going out. It has two amps..one is a pioneer, other is a menace..and the subs are menace. I put them in..and they worked until i might have accidently spilled a tiny bit of antifreeze on the pioneer screws(where the wires go). I tried cleaning this out, and its no longer oily, but its still not working. When the sound goes out, it seems the light on the amp is flickering..but unsure if its a loose connection somewhere or something went bad =/
deadtrend1
09-16-2012, 06:29 AM
Could be bad connection or ohms related or something else. Hard to say without looking at it
grazi
09-16-2012, 09:29 AM
Its possible that the amp is going into overload protection when you turn it up too loud. That could be the light flickering. Try lowering the gain on your amp and turn it up. See if it still happens.
Phoenixfire1989
09-16-2012, 03:27 PM
Could be bad connection or ohms related or something else. Hard to say without looking at it
the back sail speakers are getting 4 ohms on one side and 8 on the other. I assume it's a circuit and that's normal? but they don't work, just crackle
Phoenixfire1989
09-16-2012, 03:29 PM
Its possible that the amp is going into overload protection when you turn it up too loud. That could be the light flickering. Try lowering the gain on your amp and turn it up. See if it still happens.
I'll give it a shot later. Thanks
grazi
09-16-2012, 06:01 PM
Another thing you can do if possible is to swap the RCA cables on the amps. If the sail speakers work and the subs crackle, at least you know its before the amp, maybe a chaffed RCA cable or something. Just trying to narrow it down alittle
deadtrend1
09-16-2012, 06:18 PM
So, you have the rear 6x9's amped? The front 4x6s are run off the headunit? What is your setup?
Phoenixfire1989
09-18-2012, 08:00 PM
i'm so bad with electronics...i'm sure the front speakers run off the headunit cause they have no bass to them
deadtrend1
09-19-2012, 07:54 AM
The fronts 4x6's wont put out bass due to their size. I normally filter it out to prevent any clipping. For simplicity of things, theres no reason to not run the 4 main speakers off the headunit.
greenformula92
09-19-2012, 08:25 AM
How I would run them would be to run the speakers of the head unit and run the two subs off of one adequate amp. Running two amps just sounds like a headache unless one is running your speakers and the other in running the subs. Of course I care a lot less about audio systems now but I do have some experience and one of my best friends used to be an installer and does it on the side.
deadtrend1
09-19-2012, 08:40 AM
Thats basically what i was sayin. To keep it simple cause by her desceiptions, its seems this is a unknown area. Ive been out of the audio game for awhile (used to do shows and done countless custom installs).
Phoenixfire1989
09-23-2012, 11:21 AM
A club member that glanced at it real fast thinks whoever set it up..the wires i have aren't enough to power the units i have =/ I'll have to take it somewhere. Adjusting the gain some did help though =)
BullittSVT
09-23-2012, 12:40 PM
If thicker gauge wires will solve your problem, then your lucky!
Phoenixfire1989
09-23-2012, 01:18 PM
If thicker gauge wires will solve your problem, then your lucky!
I'm hoping that is all it is. It worked ok for about a year..but i was told over time it just won't do the job if the wires are too small..
deadtrend1
09-23-2012, 05:09 PM
If you pick up what you need i could get you up and running
FlyingDutchman
09-23-2012, 05:40 PM
if i turn the volume up very loud the back subs go out. The sail speakers don't work at all. I'm unsure if maybe the alternator isn't putting out enough power since ive been having charging issues, but it doesn't seem to matter how high its charged..its still going out. It has two amps..one is a pioneer, other is a menace..and the subs are menace. I put them in..and they worked until i might have accidently spilled a tiny bit of antifreeze on the pioneer screws(where the wires go). I tried cleaning this out, and its no longer oily, but its still not working. When the sound goes out, it seems the light on the amp is flickering..but unsure if its a loose connection somewhere or something went bad =/
I had something similar to this when I first installed my sub. The amp pwr light did nothing but flicker and I got no sound from the amp. Turned out to be a bad ground from the amp to the body, problem solved by redoing the gnd wire. I would check the contacts of the wires and make sure you have good clean points of connection. Is it just the amp you spilled on that isn't working?
Phoenixfire1989
09-23-2012, 05:49 PM
I had something similar to this when I first installed my sub. The amp pwr light did nothing but flicker and I got no sound from the amp. Turned out to be a bad ground from the amp to the body, problem solved by redoing the gnd wire. I would check the contacts of the wires and make sure you have good clean points of connection. Is it just the amp you spilled on that isn't working?
well..i unhooked the one amp that i spilled the antifreeze on..it only controlled the back sail speakers... The other amp is connected the the sub box only..and if i drive for a while the amp gets real hot..and the subs go in and out. I really do think it's a power issue somewhere..
grazi
09-23-2012, 06:13 PM
The one that gets real hot, Is that the one that you tried lowering the gain on and the same one that has the flickering light?
Phoenixfire1989
09-23-2012, 06:19 PM
The one that gets real hot, Is that the one that you tried lowering the gain on and the same one that has the flickering light?
The flickering one is the one that is disconnected. The one that is still hooked up is the one getting really hot
greenformula92
09-24-2012, 07:40 AM
What kind of AMP is it? That amp might be on its way out
Phoenixfire1989
09-26-2012, 05:02 AM
What kind of AMP is it? That amp might be on its way out
The one that is not hooked up that supplies power to the sail speakers is a pioneer. It's so old it says "power supply" on it lol the other that controls the subs is a menace.
Phoenixfire1989
09-29-2012, 06:19 PM
Thanks so much to tim for wasting his saturday tearing my car apart and rewiring everything. He must have pull over 60 feet of wire out of my car that wasn't necassary. Everything is working perfectly,and I have one less amp drawing power. He had to tear all ny moldings and backseats out ..and he even replaced a bad running bulb for me! Thanks so much! I can't tell you how grateful I am that you took the time to help :)
greenformula92
09-30-2012, 09:11 AM
after pulling out 60 feet of wire the car must feel faster :rofl:
deadtrend1
09-30-2012, 02:15 PM
No problem ... Glad its workin now.
Phoenixfire1989
10-01-2012, 02:28 AM
after pulling out 60 feet of wire the car must feel faster :rofl:
Take alot more than that to help my poor car XD it needs a new carb
greenformula92
10-01-2012, 07:18 AM
Take alot more than that to help my poor car XD it needs a new carb
I hate to say it but I told you that last year
bandit88
10-01-2012, 06:49 PM
No problem ... Glad its workin now.
I thought I told you to stay in the KITCHEN!
:lol:
BonzoHansen
10-01-2012, 07:49 PM
I thought I told you to stay in the KITCHEN!
:lol:
yeah, make her some pie
WildBillyT
10-02-2012, 08:22 AM
yeah, make her some pie
And try not to bake your keys in it.
LOL.
sweetbmxrider
10-02-2012, 08:41 AM
No problem ... Glad its workin now.
How hack was it in there? :lol:
deadtrend1
10-02-2012, 11:18 AM
How hack was it in there? :lol:
Factory connector cut out, dead ipbus cable run to the back along with 3 different styles of house speaker wiring. Removed the 2 channel amp that was powering the rears only, along with the power wires and rcas going to it. Reistalled rear speakers and wired them in with the factory wires. Fixed one of the fron speakers, rewired the other so the polarity was correct.
Still not 100% to my liking, but its up and running correctly. Could use so more cleaning up with the wiring but if it becomes a problem in the future then worry about it then.
bandit88
10-02-2012, 05:48 PM
And try not to bake your keys in it.
LOL.
Don't you worry about that. His keys are in a safe location ;)
Phoenixfire1989
10-03-2012, 03:36 AM
yeah, make her some pie
I want some pie... XD
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