How can I legally obtain a debtors SSN?

[V]

I have a court judgement against an individual and need to proceed with an involuntary allotment/wage garnishment however I need to fill in his Social Security Number on the form. I do not have it. How can I go about getting it? He was served an Information Subpena which would have included that along with assets and bank account info but he ignored it and is currently in contempt of court for that. Having him served with those papers is another issue.

Some websites claim they can get the SSN but will only do it for legal cases and with proof like a court judgment, which I do have. Has any one ever used any resources like that and actually got info that was useful and couldn't find on the web on their own?

Biggest issue is, he was active duty military and I don't currently know his status. At one time he was pending military jail time so I'm not sure if he's locked up now or has been dishonorably discharged. I have a lien on his NY house, but in November I was served with a notice that the bank was foreclosing on his property and my lien, being the junior lien would most likely get dissolved since after the sale, there probably wouldn't be enough left over to cover the debt.

I've tried to track him myself and ran into a few dead ends. I have a feeling he is now living at his mothers place in Indiana. I have the address and names of relatives wife etc. but no active phone numbers. The wage garnishment would be used in case he is still locked up(he'd still be getting some military pay) and if he's not then it would get returned and I would then know he's no longer in the military.

So far I have not had any luck with dealing with his old unit or Jag but I'm still running down leads. The court has been pretty helpful so I'm hoping maybe they can provide his SSN. 6 months prior to my case, he was arrested in the same town for domestic violence and all his info should be on record there. I'm thinking maybe I can subpena those documents to aid in the fulfillment of my case. I even sent a letter to the former acting 1st Sgt of his unit, when he was pending confinement, to see if he can tell me what ever happened with him.

Any one have any other advice for routes I can try? If all this fails, I'll be making a trip this spring out to Indiana.

[qwikz28]

Unless this guy is an idiot, he likely is far away from this area. How sure are you that he is in Indiana? I'm not familiar with Indiana procedure, but generally you can file the judgment there and subpoena him again. You don't even need to go, find a debt collections attorney to do it for you. I'm not sure what the rate is for a collections attorney, but they will probably take a substantial cut.

Does he have a spouse? Any businesses registered in his name? I am not sure, but you may be able to name his family in Indiana in a separate proceeding and go after that home as well. Let me know what info you have, I'll try and do some research for you.

[V]

Oh, he is a complete idiot, trust me... No business, but I have his mothers name & address, and his wifes name too. They have 2 or 3 children. I just messaged a person that is possibly his mother on Facebook, we'll see where that leads. Last time I searched for him, most address locations came back to his NY address, However last night and today, most are coming back to the mothers address. And yea, I was thinking of having him served at the moms house, or at least trying it. I have a call in to his former unit captain and hoping to find something out that way.


My one idea is to flood Facebook with his and his wifes picture and offer a monetary reward for finding them. We all know how social media can spread so fast.

This is him....

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/SmokingSS/locate/robertJkinzel3_zpsc6af1611.jpg



and this is his moms house where he is most likely staying...


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/SmokingSS/locate/kinzel_zpse5f5b56f.png

[Squirrel]

Looks like a nice place, push on mom and she'll probably flip to protect her big foreheaded son

[Mark B]

Looks like a nice place, push on mom and she'll probably flip to protect her big foreheaded son

What he said.

[V]

Looks like a nice place, push on mom and she'll probably flip to protect her big foreheaded son

I'd like to just call there but her number is unlisted but some websites say if I pay 1-5 bucks, they will provide it... are they for real? or just a rip off?

[BonzoHansen]

Pay? Your stalker cred is in question! Lol

So you got a court order and you have to supply his ssn? I find that odd. Where are our lawyers? :)

[spina74]

try www.zabasearch.com
sometimes numbers come up on there that aren't in the phonebook

[V]

Pay? Your stalker cred is in question! Lol

So you got a court order and you have to supply his ssn? I find that odd. Where are our lawyers? :)


it doesn't help that he never showed up in court to begin with, ignored the original order he was served with and the judge then looked over the evidence and found in my favor (since I had a signed contract with supporting documentation). He was served then with an information subpena which would have gave me all his financial and personal info, but he ignored that to and left the state it seems. If i can find him and get him served with contempt of court papers, then if he doesn't show or pay, he gets arrested.

try www.zabasearch.com (http://www.zabasearch.com)
sometimes numbers come up on there that aren't in the phonebook
already checked that one. lol but thanks

[NJSPEEDER]

Message me the name and address info on FB and I will see if I can find anything.

-Tim

[foff667]

Message me the name and address info on FB and I will see if I can find anything.

-Tim

Timmy, the original stalker :)

[Dudbird113]

So does this guy owe u money or something?

[JW]

Whoa some old school peeps in this thread!

Timmy, the original stalker :)

JW :D

[Squirrel]

**** it, stop playing around, gimme a train ticket, and ill settle the situation