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Lt1_8U
01-08-2013, 12:18 AM
Well the mock up portion. I need to purchase a flywheel still for my 2 piece rear main seal engine. So I decided I'd throw it in, do my cutting and set my crossmember up. More pics tomorrow!
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x94/69novaguy/image-3_zpse9588c8b.jpg
townsend
01-08-2013, 12:46 AM
please post up what/where you got a flywheel for a 2-piece block to work with it! im starting to gather parts to do this to my truck, and im having a hard time finding a flywheel that will work.
Lt1_8U
01-08-2013, 05:21 AM
There are three that I know of. I have to find my part numbers but they all are around 420.00. Yeah it blows... Ram,center force and I think hays make them. Ill find them and shoot you a pm
BonzoHansen
01-08-2013, 07:34 AM
$420? LT1 style T56?
More pics!
WildBillyT
01-08-2013, 08:21 AM
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/double_overdrive496/IMAG1817_zps355b63c4.jpg
Race ya to the finish line. LOL. I just finished my tunnel patch yesterday.
All joking aside, looks good! Appears that you haven't cut yet though?
Lt1_8U
01-08-2013, 09:16 AM
Hahaha nice! How's it line up in there with the bellhousing? I don't think I need to cut. I have the trans as high as it can go without pushing against the floor. At this height the poly mount on the trans is about an inch higher than the crossmember. I will buy a digital protractor to check my driveline angle though.
That picture is before I trimmed the shifter hole, so it's not sitting up all the way.
Lt1_8U
01-08-2013, 09:22 AM
$420? LT1 style T56?
More pics!
Yepp, out of bills trans am! It sucks. Just because the pre 87(or 86) blocks had a different bolt pattern on the crank. All the two piece rear main seal engines need this flywheel for the t56
WildBillyT
01-08-2013, 09:23 AM
Hahaha nice! How's it line up in there with the bellhousing? I don't think I need to cut. I have the trans as high as it can go without pushing against the floor. At this height the poly mount on the trans is about an inch higher than the crossmember. I will buy a digital protractor to check my driveline angle though.
That picture is before I trimmed the shifter hole, so it's not sitting up all the way.
Didn't want to hijack your thread with my own swap too much :-|
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/double_overdrive496/IMAG1840_zps2d1be4e2.jpg
I will say this. After dealing with the ill-fitting bellhousing to trans situation, everything else has fit together perfectly and the mechanical parts are easier to set up than the Muncie was.
As far as I'm concerned, this project is 90% metalwork and 10% mechanicals.
I had to cut a lot, but that's what is necessary for a T56 Mag or an LS1 T56. For some reason the LT trans seems to fit better. Probably that shallower bellhousing and shorter input shaft. Just check your driveline angle as I've seen LT T56 guys botch that and then have to chase vibrations on the highway.
Before cutting, this is what my trans mount looked like:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/double_overdrive496/IMAG1821_zps2a23954c.jpg
And that was with the trans pressing up against the floor as far as it would go. Needed another 1-1.5" of space.
And FYI, the stock floor pan/tunnel thickness is between 20-22 gauge steel. I was told the wrong thing and used 16ga for my new tunnel which is a lot harder to work with. Although the floor is crazy stiff at this point...LOL.
Lt1_8U
01-08-2013, 09:38 AM
Keep posting! It fits the title haha. Oh ok, I'm glad I don't need to cut it lol haha take some pics of the floor.
BonzoHansen
01-08-2013, 09:55 AM
I had to cut a lot, but that's what is necessary for a T56 Mag or an LS1 T56. For some reason the LT trans seems to fit better. Probably that shallower bellhousing and shorter input shaft. Just check your driveline angle as I've seen LT T56 guys botch that and then have to chase vibrations on the highway.
I agree with all that!
WBT it looks like your shifter came right through that brace! I have a similar brace i cut about half way through on the Z.
Lt1_8U what crossmember are you using?
WildBillyT
01-08-2013, 10:30 AM
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/double_overdrive496/IMAG1851_zps858badba.jpg
That brace?
Yeah, it had to completely go in my case. I could have saved maybe 1/4" of it or so but it was not worth it as that adds no strength.
I am not 100% sure I need to put it (or something like it) back since my "mistake" used steel that's just as thick (or thicker) as the brace for the entire tunnel.
Lt1_8U
01-08-2013, 10:51 AM
I had the same issue with that brace, I cut it and it left about a 1/4 of it. I actually bought the crossmember from bill.8-)
WildBillyT
01-08-2013, 10:55 AM
It is an early Fat Man Fab crossmember I believe.
Lt1_8U
01-08-2013, 11:25 AM
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x94/69novaguy/image-3_zps06b29143.jpg
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x94/69novaguy/image-3_zps5ae10a99.jpg
townsend
01-08-2013, 11:38 AM
was hoping for cheaper....crap. thanks though. looks really good guys!
Lt1_8U
01-08-2013, 11:42 AM
Thanks! Me too haha. Ram part number is 2555, center force is 700107
chrisfrom nj
01-08-2013, 05:20 PM
Looks great jim
Lt1_8U
01-09-2013, 07:30 AM
Thanks man
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x94/69novaguy/image-3_zps380dc92d.jpg
maroman88
01-09-2013, 02:53 PM
makin good progress!
Lt1_8U
01-09-2013, 08:54 PM
Thanks man, just building up the funds for the flywheel and little stuff.
Featherburner
01-09-2013, 09:01 PM
Looks good. Are you going with an aluminum or a steel flywheel?
Lt1_8U
01-09-2013, 10:47 PM
Thanks, I think I'm going with the aluminum ram flywheel. Are there an cons to an aluminum one? I was thinking it would be better because its lighter and its simar in price.
BonzoHansen
01-09-2013, 11:17 PM
What rear gears are you running?
Lt1_8U
01-10-2013, 12:20 AM
Right now the rear that's in the car has 3.55s but I want to do 4.11a or 4.56s. I really liked the 4.56 in my last car
WildBillyT
01-10-2013, 06:50 AM
Thanks, I think I'm going with the aluminum ram flywheel. Are there an cons to an aluminum one? I was thinking it would be better because its lighter and its simar in price.
Jim,
This is not one of those cases where lighter always equals better. A lighter flywheel stores less energy so it will take a little more to get the car going. A heavy flywheel will rev slower but will not lose as much on launch.
BonzoHansen
01-10-2013, 07:46 AM
I like the heavier ones on the street. And wirh 3.55s you probably won't like the lightweight one. You might want to start a separate tech thread on this.
WildBillyT
01-10-2013, 07:55 AM
Personally I think stock weight is fine. No reason to go lighter or heavier unless you do a lot of racing.
Lt1_8U
01-10-2013, 08:34 AM
I didn't even think about that, makes sense. I'm not going to bother opening a thread, ill just go with the factory weight one. I don't plan on racing a lot especially with island going down. Thanks guys!
Jersyboyy
01-26-2013, 02:45 AM
lt1_8u nice progress brother! I pmed you about my centerforce flywheel sorry about not getting back to your earlier. It is as close to stock as any for this application. Im with wildbillyt on this one too, heavier flywheel holds more energy and will be a better fit option.
Hopefully ill have similiar build pics soon after I pcs to my next base end of feb :0
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