Cadillac unveils next gen CTS engine: TT-V6

[V]

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f70/cadillac-confirms-twin-turbo-v-6-8-speed-automatic-2014-cts-117093/

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/2014-GM-V6LF3-004-medium.jpg

420hp. Thats just awesome, lol.

I'm just thinking, if that's the BASE model engine for the new CTS, what does that mean for the ATS-V? still a TT-v6 or now a v8? A modded TTv6 in the ATS chassis would make 450+ and the thing would fly.

I am definitely holding off on my next car purchase to see what the 2014 ATS-V will offer.

[WildBillyT]

That's fantastic. Gonna really take a shot at the German boys.

[sweetbmxrider]

That pos is going to be an effing nightmare.

[LTb1ow]

Internal wastegates for teh lulz!

[Blackbirdws6]

Should be interesting for sure.

[Jersey Mike]

MPG numbers are a little weak. Doesn't MB have a bi-turbo already?
Agreed though, a TTV6 CTS is a good move. There should be a "smoother" transition between a base CTS and a CTSV.

8-speed auto?!? Not sure if I like that, but I'm sure the genpop will drool over that stat.

[V]

keep in mind that the next cts is getting bigger for the next gen so 420hp would be respectable. its only 100hp more in a heavier car.

[Paul Huryk]

That looks to be an internally upgraded and turbo charged 3.6L - same engine as in my 2011 LaCrosse, think it is rated at 320hp NA in some versions. Heard they are sticking this in the upcoming Grand National and GNX versions of the Regal - 4wd drivetrain.

[Teds89IROC]

should be pretty cool

[BigAls87Z28]

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f70/cadillac-confirms-twin-turbo-v-6-8-speed-automatic-2014-cts-117093/

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/2014-GM-V6LF3-004-medium.jpg

420hp. Thats just awesome, lol.

I'm just thinking, if that's the BASE model engine for the new CTS, what does that mean for the ATS-V? still a TT-v6 or now a v8? A modded TTv6 in the ATS chassis would make 450+ and the thing would fly.

I am definitely holding off on my next car purchase to see what the 2014 ATS-V will offer.

First off, thanks for the link-back brah.

This will be the top, non-V engine. Base engine for the CTS will be the 2.0T, than the 3.6, than this. This is to go head to head with the Germans/Japanese's V8 engines.
The ATS-V will have a slightly more powerful version of this engine. This will also go into the XTS sedan.

MPG numbers are a little weak. Doesn't MB have a bi-turbo already?
Agreed though, a TTV6 CTS is a good move. There should be a "smoother" transition between a base CTS and a CTSV.

8-speed auto?!? Not sure if I like that, but I'm sure the genpop will drool over that stat.

MPG is in line with the V8 variants of everything else in it's class. MPGs are not that big of a deal then.
MB and BMW have twin-turbo V8s that make around the same power as this TTV6. BMW's 4.4TT is larger and makes less power than the LF3.
The 8spd auto is an Aisin unit, not the GM unit which will come later.

keep in mind that the next cts is getting bigger for the next gen so 420hp would be respectable. its only 100hp more in a heavier car.

Next CTS will be slightly larger, but lighter than the current one. Driving this will be similar to driving your CTS-V.

That looks to be an internally upgraded and turbo charged 3.6L - same engine as in my 2011 LaCrosse, think it is rated at 320hp NA in some versions. Heard they are sticking this in the upcoming Grand National and GNX versions of the Regal - 4wd drivetrain.

There is no talk of putting this is the proposed Alpha Buick, but it's possible.

[redsoxsstink]

MPG numbers are a little weak. Doesn't MB have a bi-turbo already?
Agreed though, a TTV6 CTS is a good move. There should be a "smoother" transition between a base CTS and a CTSV.

8-speed auto?!? Not sure if I like that, but I'm sure the genpop will drool over that stat.

i find it annoying when a 4spd auto hunts for gears, the 6 spd auto i drove had a slap stick and was barely manageable. i couldnt imagine hunting though 8 gears, ughhhhhh. should make funny noises with aftermarket exhausts though

[coolmanvette75]

Good move. About time GM made a factory tt motor...

[sweetbmxrider]

MPG is in line with the V8 variants of everything else in it's class. MPGs are not that big of a deal then.
MB and BMW have twin-turbo V8s that make around the same power as this TTV6. BMW's 4.4TT is larger and makes less power than the LF3.
The 8spd auto is an Aisin unit, not the GM unit which will come later

I'm sure the torque curve for the 8 cylinders will spank this thing in light to light driving.

[BigAls87Z28]

I'm sure the torque curve for the 8 cylinders will spank this thing in light to light driving.

I have to look at the graph again, but there is a flat, mesa-like 430ftlbs of torque from around 2,200rpms to redline.

[sweetbmxrider]

I have to look at the graph again, but there is a flat, mesa-like 430ftlbs of torque from around 2,200rpms to redline.

GMI heads up competition is in order!

[PolarBear]

I have to look at the graph again, but there is a flat, mesa-like 430ftlbs of torque from around 2,200rpms to redline.

The graph I saw for the Ecotech 2.0 Turbo was very similar if I remember correctly. This should be a pretty awesome engine too

[BullittSVT]

Makes me sad that this engine won't have a stick mated to it. It'd be cool for fan boys trying to have fun without shelling so much for the V.

Anyone have an idea what price the TTV6 will start at?

[12secondv6]

Depending on the version twin turbo V8
402 hp at 5,000 rpm's
443 tq from 1600 - 4750 rpm's

429 hp at 5,250 rpm's
516 tq from 1800 - 3500 rpm's

Torque wins.......but they are heavy.
You will see MB's getting lighter as they get redesigned.


I'm hopeful this twin turbo V6 w/ 8 speed tranny makes it into the camaro - that will be a great car.

[maroman88]

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f70/2014-cadillac-cts-first-official-photos-117238/

i love it

[Tru2Chevy]

Yes, those shots are very promising.

My only thought is that the tail lights look very "traditional Cadillac" from that angle - not sure if that's a good thing or not yet.

- Justin

[V]

I like it very much as well.

[Jersey Mike]

Definitely looking forward to seeing what this next generation of the CTS is going to look like.

[sweetbmxrider]

I like the way the front lights flow

[LTb1ow]

I like the way the front lights flow

Agreed, but, seems sorta Chrysler like in places, will wait for final pics.

[coolmanvette75]

Looks great. If the regular cts looks this good, I really cannot wait to see the V...

[98CamaroSS]

Looks like a bigger version of the ATS.....:nod:

[redsoxsstink]

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http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f70/2014-cts-fully-revealed-117269/

looks like a benz but good. but for the love of god, please everyone throw this halo led nonsense out the window and never bring it back.

[PolarBear]

for the love of god, please everyone throw this halo led nonsense out the window and never bring it back.

LED's are not going away any time soon. Expect to see them as the primary lighting eventually

[redsoxsstink]

LED's are not going away any time soon. Expect to see them as the primary lighting eventually

i understand it will be used as primary lighting soon, but ditch the audi style swooshes and randomly designed LED running lights. i think any SMD, LED, CCFL, halo tech is tacky

[Jersey Mike]

Front and interior look superb. Maybe the back half will grow on me, but as of right now, it reminds me of something you'd see for the DTS market.

Looking forward to seeing more pictures of it.

[PolarBear]

i understand it will be used as primary lighting soon, but ditch the audi style swooshes and randomly designed LED running lights. i think any SMD, LED, CCFL, halo tech is tacky

I think that is going to be around for a long time. Makes side lighting a lot easier as far as I can tell, less of a need for reflectors.

[WildBillyT]

I think that is going to be around for a long time. Makes side lighting a lot easier as far as I can tell, less of a need for reflectors.

And less power use, and more durable, etc etc.

Take a look at other consumer lighting stuff.

Holiday lights?
Flashlights?
Regular light bulbs?
LCD screen light sources?

All that stuff is going or has gone LED.

[PolarBear]

True, power requirements go down as does heat, plus LED usually has a longer burn time than an incandescent bulb.

[V]

plus thinner wires needed. reduces weight and cost

[sweetbmxrider]

Plus it looks good, damn good.

[V]

I like it a lot, a real lot, the back end isn't too bad afterall

The Vsport package confuses me slightly though

[maroman88]

compare it to the Z07 packaged corvette i suppose... all the ZR1 stuff on a z06 minus the motor?

[Blackbirdws6]

Looks damn good.

[BigAls87Z28]

i understand it will be used as primary lighting soon, but ditch the audi style swooshes and randomly designed LED running lights. i think any SMD, LED, CCFL, halo tech is tacky

Audi, Cadillac, and I believe Lincoln use LEDs for headlights already. Not just accents, actual lighting.

I like it a lot, a real lot, the back end isn't too bad afterall

The Vsport package confuses me slightly though

V-Sport is to leverage the V branding to give people cool stuff of a V car without the actual cost or equipment of the V. BMW and Benz started the M and AMG packages for regular trim vehicles, as is Audi with the S-line stuff, Lexus has the F-spec packages for cars, and Infiniti with the IPL stuff.