Time for brakes

[MyFirstZ]

Time for brakes. I can here my squeal tab going off when I am braking and need some recommendations. My car ate through the brakemotive set that was on there. Warped rotors very quick. Got a new set warrantied and put two front calipers on and bled the system multiple times and still warped them and put hot spots in.

Can't take the time and don't have the cash to start my CTS-v upgrade. So need suggestions on what route to go

Car will be street driven but alot of hard braking.

I had this in mind

98-02 LS1/V6 EBC Drilled/Slotted Rotor
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/catalog/98-02-ls1-v6-ebc-drilled-slotted-rotor-combo-all-4-save-/

or

98-02 LS1/V6 Brembo Front Slotted Rotors front/rear
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/catalog/98-02-ls1-v6-brembo-front-slotted-rotors-pair-/


with (pads)

EBC's new kevlar Yellowstuff
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/catalog/98-02-ls1-v6-ebc-yellowstuff-kevlar-brake-pads-front/

or EBC's green stuff
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/catalog/98-02-ls1-v6-ebc-green-stuff-brake-pads-compound-front/

Any recommendations or experience with either?

[KirkEvil]

I run powerslot rotors on both my camaro and TBSS, never had a problem with them. I have hawk HPS pads front and rear on the camaro and they have held up very well, even with braking from 125+ at the strip, and have very low brake dust. I also have hawk front and ebc yellow rears on the tbss, again both have very low brake dust.

Going from ac delco pads to the hawk was noticeably different on the camaro. The same change on my tbss was hard to tell a difference in performance.

[creeper]

I just got my front brakemotive setup warrantied. I think I glazed them very early on and eventually warped them. Technically not warped, but uneven pad buildup yadda yadda. I might go back to duralast gold pads instead, they were good all around and got really grippy once they got heat in them at autox. The z16's were alright for daily driving, but really really bad the first time you hit the brakes when cruising on the parkway in freezing rain. Never encountered that scenario with the duralasts but I would imagine most ceramics are similar.

I recently read that the duralast golds and bendix ct-3 are GG rated (if anyone is unfamiliar all pads are required to be stamped with cold/hot coefficient of friction and fade info) which is the same zone as hawk HP+. That rating doesn't mean everything, but gives an idea. I thought this was interesting also:

http://blog.caranddriver.com/performance-brake-pads-compared-hawk-hps-hawk-hp-plus-ebc-yellowstuff/

[Paul Huryk]

If you are warping rotors, you should think about going 2pc replacements as they don't warp as easily as OEM style ones, regardless of brand.

[sweetbmxrider]

Or see if something else is contributing to the issue.

[BonzoHansen]

Or see if something else is contributing to the issue.

:nod:

[MyFirstZ]

almost everything is new in the brake system besides the brake booster and some hard lines.

I think its the continous hard stops on the car mixed with what i can imagine is cheap iron.

[sweetbmxrider]

Could be. You should do some braking then jack the car up and see if the wheels spin freely or if any are dragging. If you have an IR Thermometer, you could take rotor temps and see if one side is significantly hotter. Could just be the chinese garbage though :lol:

[MyFirstZ]

yeah I did all that the last time they were warped. Used my ir temp gun. Had a great difference from left to right so I replaced both regardless. ABS, master and stain less lines where all done as well along with multiple flushes.

[sweetbmxrider]

Calipers and slides don't seem to be an issue?

[MyFirstZ]

Not this time no.

[BullittSVT]

IMO, the yellow stuff wont perform as good as they could on a daily. The green stuff I've had plenty of friends say they like it..

As for rotors, again I don't see too much of a reason for drilled/slotted rotors unless i'm actively going to the track or beating the piss out of my car on the twisties. I like centric rotors, have had good results..

What usage are these brakes going to see? Does a budget matter?

[WSex]

i have akebono pads bc brake dust really bothers me. great pads. pricey but a good investment.

[BullittSVT]

^ +1 for Akebono

[MyFirstZ]

brake dust doesn't really bother me the car gets cleaned to often and before shows the wheels get taken off and washed with some acidic stuff to get the inside then waxed.

Never heard of them before

[jam01]

hawk pads and brembo rotors, five years and still performing great.

[WildBillyT]

brake dust doesn't really bother me the car gets cleaned to often and before shows the wheels get taken off and washed with some acidic stuff to get the inside then waxed.

Never heard of them before

Akebono is OEM GM on some newer cars. I know the GMC Acadia uses them. I'm not sure if it's really a high performance compound, though.

[greenformula92]

I would go either powerstop pads or EBC greenstuff pads and Centric rotors. I have this setup of my daily and the it stops on a dime.

I can only assume that you commute into the city since you I see you live in Suffern and I'm pretty sure that whole area commutes to either jersey or the city for work. Assuming this, drilled and slotted rotors will do you nothing but warp because of the heat. Slotted is ok but stay away from drilled, your moving to slow to cool them

Ive been up that way for work during the morning rush and I would agree you need something good for a lot of stop and go. Especially once you get passed Yonkers on 87 by the interchange for the cross bronx.

[BarneyMobile]

I run stock GM pads and ACdelco rotors. They managed to stop my 3800lb pig from 140+ fairly well.