New Dodger Challenger Hellcat runs high 10s

[NJ346]

It ran a 11.2@125 off the factory floor and a 10.8 on drag radials. I get to see these cars test everyday at work and can tell you they are wicked fast. I'm not sure if the ones I see have the production exhaust, but if they do, this will be one of the loudest factory cars every produced.

http://jalopnik.com/the-707-hp-dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-is-a-10-second-1603567665

[Blackbirdws6]

Pretty cool. Not the car for me but nice to see them stepping up. Any idea on the msrp?

[r0nin89]

Like you said about the exhaust Im curious if any of these "testers" are actually production equivalent cars. Not that an exhaust is hard to change but as car guys we all know the tune could be less aggressive, still hit the 707hp peak number and be slower.

Im not doubting the cars capability but 10.8 is ****ing fast for how much those damn cars weigh. It certainly does sound nasty.

[sweetbmxrider]

I see most challengers are around 4200lbs. 700hp will certainly push you to high 10's on a good 60' with that weight. I wonder if they have a factory cut out like on vettes or even a race mode like on c7's that opens the exhaust up. Very impressive car to say the least. Are they n/a?

[NJ346]

Like you said about the exhaust Im curious if any of these "testers" are actually production equivalent cars. Not that an exhaust is hard to change but as car guys we all know the tune could be less aggressive, still hit the 707hp peak number and be slower.

Im not doubting the cars capability but 10.8 is ****ing fast for how much those damn cars weigh. It certainly does sound nasty.

I've seen the test cars up close and they are complete cars(interior is complete, under hood looks production ready, etc.)

10.8 seems about right since it's got an 8 speed auto. I'm curious what they've done to the 8 speed to handle the power level. Once they launch, there's a slight chance the keys may slide across my desk. :nod:

Adam, it's a supercharged 6.2L.

[NJ Torque]

I see most challengers are around 4200lbs. 700hp will certainly push you to high 10's on a good 60' with that weight. I wonder if they have a factory cut out like on vettes or even a race mode like on c7's that opens the exhaust up. Very impressive car to say the least. Are they n/a?


Just watched the video and no, its got a blower.

[12secondv6]

Butterfly valves in exhaust to go from loud to fringing loud!

[chknhwk01]

BUTTTT,HOW MUCH DOZZZZ IT COSTTTTTTTTT,:nod:

[Paul Huryk]

They've been labeling this car as the fastest musclecar ever built - technically its true, but it also has 700hp and is over 4,200lbs (probably 4,300 or more).

Stoplight warriors, yes. Not going to do very well on the road course, unless you count highest number of off road excursions.

[12secondv6]

Probably $75,000
I looked at 2 of them today.

I missed Ralph doing a burn out in one

[1320B4U]

I dig it.....


...for quarter mile jaunts however it appears the z28 or zl1 has more research and work done to the suspension to make it an overall better, albeit faster car around the track. What kind of brakes does this even have? Cool, yes...but I'd expect more for a car that will do battle w/factory built muscle cars like Shelby's and Camaro's....and him an srt guy too.

[NastyEllEssWon]

jesus christ thats a fantastic car.

[ThoR294]

I dig it.....


...for quarter mile jaunts however it appears the z28 or zl1 has more research and work done to the suspension to make it an overall better, albeit faster car around the track. What kind of brakes does this even have? Cool, yes...but I'd expect more for a car that will do battle w/factory built muscle cars like Shelby's and Camaro's....and him an srt guy too.

Nice huge brembos

http://image.motortrend.com/f/wot/1407_2015_dodge_challenger_srt_hellcat_featured_in _motor_trend_video/76475805+w644/2015-dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-front-wheels.jpg

[sweetbmxrider]

Adam, it's a supercharged 6.2L.

Just watched the video and no, its got a blower.

Ah, very cool still.

[NJ Torque]

I've seen the test cars up close and they are complete cars(interior is complete, under hood looks production ready, etc.)

10.8 seems about right since it's got an 8 speed auto. I'm curious what they've done to the 8 speed to handle the power level. Once they launch, there's a slight chance the keys may slide across my desk. :nod:

Adam, it's a supercharged 6.2L.


Thats awesome!

[BonzoHansen]

Nice huge brembos



it would take a lot more than big brembros to have that boat catch the camaro if the track has a turn. But that does not appear to be the intent of this car, I don't see them as comparable in any manner.

[LTb1ow]

it would take a lot more than big brembros to have that boat catch the camaro if the track has a turn. But that does not appear to be the intent of this car, I don't see them as comparable in any manner.

yurp, I would go with the Z if I had to pick a land barge.

Dodge is live axle rear?

[BonzoHansen]

i believe so.

i dunno, if my primary concern was drag racing then the dodge or the current ford might be my pick. if i were so disposed to buy anything from those brands, which i am not lol

[ThoR294]

Challenger is the best looking though.

At that point, I'd just get a C6 z06 though lol

[Paul Huryk]

I looked into it and apparently it is going to tip the scales over 4,400lbs - which is not going to give word class handling nor braking (Challenger is the worst handling of the late model triplets anyway).

Modern tech aside, the car is a heavy boat - a 3400lb car would only need 545hp to keep up, not to mention better handling, braking, and mileage.

Good looking car - may be a collectible one day. But not my cup of tea.

[BigAls87Z28]

Challenger has IRS
You come here and peddle that three ton tank and post a link from Jalopnik? Awful...

[sweetbmxrider]

I looked into it and apparently it is going to tip the scales over 4,400lbs - which is not going to give word class handling nor braking (Challenger is the worst handling of the late model triplets anyway).

Modern tech aside, the car is a heavy boat - a 3400lb car would only need 545hp to keep up, not to mention better handling, braking, and mileage.

Good looking car - may be a collectible one day. But not my cup of tea.

Ya, so gut this thing and go bottom 9's no problem 8-)

[NastyEllEssWon]

Challenger has IRS
You come here and peddle that three ton tank and post a link from Jalopnik? Awful...



lol better than coming here peddling three ton tanks and posting links from GMI :D

I'm a Camaro/Firebird fan for life but this car is way better than any camaro/firebird ever produced. I wonder what the pricing is like.

[LTb1ow]

lol better than coming here peddling three ton tanks and posting links from GMI :D

I'm a Camaro/Firebird fan for life but this car is way better than any camaro/firebird ever produced. I wonder what the pricing is like.

da faq you smoking?

The new Z28 tromps this barge.

[NJ346]

Challenger has IRS
You come here and peddle that three ton tank and post a link from Jalopnik? Awful...

What is wrong with jalopnik? :shrug:

[zraffz]

I'm not impressed. Regardless of being 800+/- lbs heavier than a C6Z, it makes an extra 200 horsepower and still doesn't cover the 1/4 mile any faster. (That 10.80 pass is not on stock tires).

[BigAls87Z28]

What is wrong with jalopnik? :shrug:

Lots of things. Your company and Jalopnik have issue, BTW.

[NastyEllEssWon]

da faq you smoking?

The new Z28 tromps this barge.


Challenger appeals to me more than the z28. I'd have an easier time using that power on a more regular basis than I would the z28s road course handling prowess :D


plus the challenger looks way better

[firebirdcrazy]

I love the challenger look and now the power to match!! It states that the motor is already coming out forged from the factory. That means a little more tweaking from the after market industry you will have an easy 800 plus horsepower beast to play with.

[sweetbmxrider]

I'm not impressed. Regardless of being 800+/- lbs heavier than a C6Z, it makes an extra 200 horsepower and still doesn't cover the 1/4 mile any faster. (That 10.80 pass is not on stock tires).

That's a great argument bro :facepalm:

[WayFast84]

They are claiming you can get this car out the door for around $65,000! It's an amazing bargain and really going to hurt the ZL1.

[qwikz28]

The ZL1 Camaro weighs in over 4100 lbs. The current GT500 is about 3850 lbs. I don't think its fair to call this car overweight for being 4200-4300lbs. The ZL1 turns pretty well (I hear) and is only about 100 pounds less.

[Featherburner]

The ZL1 Camaro weighs in over 4100 lbs. The current GT500 is about 3850 lbs. I don't think its fair to call this car overweight for being 4200-4300lbs. The ZL1 turns pretty well (I hear) and is only about 100 pounds less.

The current SRT is 4250lbs. Add 200lbs for supercharging. Puts it at 4450lbs. That's heavy right there.

[qwikz28]

The current SRT is 4250lbs. Add 200lbs for supercharging. Puts it at 4450lbs. That's heavy right there.

Just rechecked my source and the weight I read was for a current SRT. My bad :oops:

[Paul Huryk]

The ZL1 Camaro weighs in over 4100 lbs. The current GT500 is about 3850 lbs. I don't think its fair to call this car overweight for being 4200-4300lbs. The ZL1 turns pretty well (I hear) and is only about 100 pounds less.

They are calling for a target of 4,400lbs, which is freakin heavy. Relatively speaking against the competition it isn't of course.

Problem is the power to weight, even at 10:1 lbs/hp, you would need 440hp in the Hellcat to keep up with a 350hp, 3500lb car. Obviously the gap get wider as you want to go faster. I went 127mph with my 550hp, 3500lb 3rd gen - imagine what another 150hp would do...

[Blackbirdws6]

I bet it will ride nice.

[LTb1ow]

Another 1200lbs and you are at 3/4 ton truck level, be quite sad when this barge gets beat by a legit land barge.

[ThoR294]

http://s24.postimg.org/9w0hzpy1h/hellcat.jpg

from yours truely

[firebirdcrazy]

Official Pricing came out. The Hellcat starting price is $59,995. I think thats a pretty good starting point.

[sweetbmxrider]

So much awesome ignorance in this thread. Slap a pulley on it, race wheels with tires, and drop some weight then everyone in here will stfu. I don't understand how that is hard to comprehend. High 10's with a pair of tires is fuggin awesome for 60k!

[LTb1ow]

60k? :lol:

I know for sure I spent less than that on mine, but again, the point you should be arguing is that it run 10s with a warranty. That and with factory nice stuff that all work as they should, and a prob awesome crash rating etc. Also, it prob has a very fancy launch control so driver error is effectively removed.

[BonzoHansen]

and you can drive it across country.

i'm no dodge guy, but that is a neat car if you can get it for that price

[Featherburner]

Official Pricing came out. The Hellcat starting price is $59,995. I think thats a pretty good starting point.
Yup, it would be awesome if you could get one for that price. But. I see dealers adding their cut plus that price doesn't include delivery/prep. Realistically, $70,000.

[ThoR294]

Let's see them on the street for reals. If this is the case, then chevy and ford need to step their game up. Maybe bring back a firechicken that can do 10s with a turbo ;)

[NJSPEEDER]

Cool car, lots of power and not a bad price compared to the other pony car offerings. It will be interesting to see how closely what hits the streets resembles what is being promoted.

-Tim

[BonzoHansen]

So much awesome ignorance in this thread. Slap a pulley on it, race wheels with tires, and drop some weight then everyone in here will stfu. I don't understand how that is hard to comprehend. High 10's with a pair of tires is fuggin awesome for 60k!

don't forget to put a carb on it lol

[firebirdcrazy]

I think its awesome for 60 grand you get a 10 second car with warranty, and a forged motor you can throw around and beat on right from the factory. You can probably crank up the boost, add mufflers, and tune it and get a nice increase in horsepower without voiding your warranty.

[NastyEllEssWon]

60k for that car is amazing. even if its not on stock tires thats still a low 11 second car, with some really mean looks, modern technology and a pretty sweet interior. Honestly for those talking about modifying the car, I dont see the need...for a street car you dont need anything more than what this car is offering.

[NJ346]

I'm surprised at the price. We all know out of the 3 muscle cars that the challenger has the most problems going around turns. Dodge is at least making it the fastest in a straight line at a price that I think makes it very competitive to a GT500 offering.

[1320B4U]

srt president/ceo (and all around cool guy Ralph Gilles) at Carlisle a week ago (I really wanted should've went..lol)...burnout contest w/the hellcat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMVl7FIZkz4

[elle]

I would buy one!
(if I had money)

[BigAls87Z28]

60k is crazy but awesome. Wonder if it can top the GT500s 200mph limit?

[BonzoHansen]

60k is crazy but awesome. Wonder if it can top the GT500s 200mph limit?

Might have aerodynamic difficulties doing that

[LTb1ow]

http://www.torquenews.com/106/quick-2015-dodge-challenger-hellcat-drag-strip-launch

11.8 at 118

Oops?

[WildBillyT]

http://www.torquenews.com/106/quick-2015-dodge-challenger-hellcat-drag-strip-launch

11.8 at 118

Oops?

No track prep...

[LTb1ow]

700hp, and a 118mph trap.

[WildBillyT]

700hp, and a 118mph trap.

Journalist off the throttle? I dunno.

[ThoR294]

lolwut

[LTb1ow]

Journalist off the throttle? I dunno.

:rofl:Perhaps, I was trolling a tad, I think these passes were at some mile high altitude, which explains the horrible performance.

[sweetbmxrider]

Ya I was just going to say hello oregon.

[NastyEllEssWon]

https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/dodge-charger-hellcat-roars-to-life-as-the-707-hp-world-s-fastest-sedan-163712371.html

Charger Hellcat runs an 11 flat on street tires. Times certified by NHRA and is now the fastest production sedan ever. Looks amazing too!

[1320B4U]

^ Now THAT is a sexy car! Got to admit, dodge is letting it hang out on the foreheads of other muscle car companies w/what they're releasing.

[sweetbmxrider]

And its a 4 door :drool:

[redsoxsstink]

love the look of both cars, dodge is really going all out in their performance division. living up to their crazy-red-head-stepchild reputation. hopefully this pushes everyone else

[Blackbirdws6]

The 4 door intrigues me greatly.

[The_Bishop]

living up to their crazy-red-head-stepchild reputation.

As a red-headed stepchild I am offended. My sanity is up for debate.

[ThoR294]

the charger looks badass. props to mopar

[DaSkinnyGuy]

K&N dyno says the Hellcat engine is underrated and makes at the crank 722hp,672tq ( advertised 707hp,650tq )

http://blogs.motortrend.com/1408_dyno_mighty_challenger_srt_hellcat_camaro_zl1 _hit_the_rollers.html

[WildBillyT]

K&N dyno says the Hellcat engine is underrated and makes at the crank 722hp,672tq ( advertised 707hp,650tq )

http://blogs.motortrend.com/1408_dyno_mighty_challenger_srt_hellcat_camaro_zl1 _hit_the_rollers.html

Assuming a 12-percent drivetrain loss (automatics are getting more efficient each year), that means the Hellcat puts out about 722 hp at the crank.



That is operating on an assumption. I wouldn't doubt it puts out a few HP more than rated though.

[1320B4U]

It did for the srt neons. Stated crank hp was actually at the wheels when tested from multiple sources.

[12secondv6]

Rated at 22 mpg too!

[edpontiac91]

On Yahoo News, they had an article that stated on a Chrysler dyno, the car was pulling 825 hp.

[LTb1ow]

All that Hp, so much 12s.

[DaSkinnyGuy]

http://www.hotrod.com/news/825hp_hellcat_viper_woes_not_end_of_srt_first_look _at_new_300/

[Paul Huryk]

http://www.torquenews.com/106/quick-2015-dodge-challenger-hellcat-drag-strip-launch

11.8 at 118

Oops?

My buddy had an SRT Magnum with bolt ons and a hidden 100np nitrous kit (I did the install) that ran the same exact time and speed on the OEM radials. It was a 550hp setup, not 707 or 727, whatever...

[NJ346]

This is mainly for BigAl since he hates any non GM....

http://jalopnik.com/watch-matt-farah-prove-the-dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-1638800622/all

:lol:

[DaSkinnyGuy]

Great appartment view.

[BigAls87Z28]

This is mainly for BigAl since he hates any non GM....

http://jalopnik.com/watch-matt-farah-prove-the-dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-1638800622/all

:lol:


Adorable.

Z/28 just beat out the GTR, 911 Turbo S, and Alfa 4C for best drivers car by MT.
"Handle". Right.

[WildBillyT]

Adorable.

Z/28 just beat out the GTR, 911 Turbo S, and Alfa 4C for best drivers car by MT.
"Handle". Right.

I saw that. Excellent stuff.

[NastyEllEssWon]

I cant wait to see the Chargers in person. I've been looking at picking up a Trailblazer SS outright, but I wouldnt mind putting a Trailblazer SS size down payment on a Hellcat :D

[sweetbmxrider]

What an awesome car

[sweetbmxrider]

http://www.drivesrt.com/2015/charger-srt-hellcat/

Pretty cool they have a red key and a black key, more or less a valet key.

[ThoR294]

http://www.drivesrt.com/2015/charger-srt-hellcat/

Pretty cool they have a red key and a black key, more or less a valet key.

That car does look badass. damn...

[LTb1ow]

*yawn*

[sweetbmxrider]

*yawn*

Wouldn't you, a high horsepower boosted car and truck owner, enjoy the simplicity of handing the valet, your friends, family, or service tech etc another key and not have to worry about them getting into trouble/beating the crap/ruining your precious vehicle because they couldn't handle the power? Recall that stolen zl1 from the dealership by one of the employees? Or Brian's own experience with the wash boy and his g8?

:nick:

Don't worry, the z06 has a nanny cam to see and hear someone beat the piss out of your precious metal. :facepalm:

[LTb1ow]

I do not venture any where with a valet service, and if I am not doing the labor myself I trust my service provider.

Trivial. Although, I did make the truck max speed just above idle for the alignment shop. lulz.

[BonzoHansen]

Challenger is a neat car. Weighs more than my K1500, but also has lots more HP!

I do not venture any where with a valet service, and if I am not doing the labor myself I trust my service provider.

Trivial. Although, I did make the truck max speed just above idle for the alignment shop. lulz.

in theory every alignment should be test driven

[sweetbmxrider]

I do not venture any where with a valet service, and if I am not doing the labor myself I trust my service provider.

Trivial. Although, I did make the truck max speed just above idle for the alignment shop. lulz.

If you can buy a $90k z06, you can go for the valet once or twice. If you buy a new car, chances are you'll be in the dealer service bay once. Silly pal just being silly.

[LTb1ow]

If you can buy a $90k z06, you can go for the valet once or twice. If you buy a new car, chances are you'll be in the dealer service bay once. Silly pal just being silly.

I thought this was about the 65k "practical" hellcat?

[ThoR294]

so they align your car and can't drive it? derp. lol

[sweetbmxrider]

I thought this was about the 65k "practical" hellcat?

This is still a comparative and the examples still apply. Maybe not in your world but there are a couple other people who express interest in such a feature with real world examples where such a feature would have prevented inappropriate abuse. I believe you've talked about being able to set max boost on your car and obviously your truck. Silly pal is still silly.

[1320B4U]

I hope I need to look for a family vehicle next year (wish it was available with the tr6060) but this would be rather cool to have in the stable.

[NastyEllEssWon]

this car just keeps getting better and better. are there really any cons to the car other than ''its a dodge?''

[sweetbmxrider]

kG6veF_34QE

[Blackbirdws6]

I don't think that Challenger ran 10s.

[sweetbmxrider]

1/8th mile bro, 1/8th mile....10 out of 10 burn out!!!

[Blackbirdws6]

The Hellcat owner is calling for a rematch now I hear. His comment was when the tires started to smoke, he just laid into it and figured he would give folks a show.

[sweetbmxrider]

Bull ****! He red lighted baddddddd. Plus, you have to assume he's on a street tire that he murdered in the burn out box. Money does not equal experience.....

[Blackbirdws6]

Bull ****! He red lighted baddddddd. Plus, you have to assume he's on a street tire that he murdered in the burn out box. Money does not equal experience.....

******** indeed. Those tires were nicely greased before he got to the line. He is going to buy a set of DR's too. We will see if it goes down but I think he will struggle vs the Tesla without more practice.

The guy running mid 10s with his Challenger Hellcat has broken a couple driveshafts. It's the same story with any major manufacturer, sell the car as having the performance cred but if you break it while attempting to replicate claims, it's not covered under warranty.

[sweetbmxrider]

That's some crap....

[BigAls87Z28]

GM covers the car under warranty....

[sweetbmxrider]

The z28 with certain circumstances. What if you blew up a z06 at the track?

[Blackbirdws6]

GM covers the car under warranty....

What if I didn't double clutch like I should and break it?

[Mike]

Gm covers the hellcat?

[BigAls87Z28]

The z28 with certain circumstances. What if you blew up a z06 at the track?

Last gen Z06, ZR1, current Z28 and new Z06 are covered for track use.

What if I didn't double clutch like I should and break it?

GM sends the mad scientist to tear the engine down and replace the piston rings you just fried, for free.

[sweetbmxrider]

Last gen Z06, ZR1, current Z28 and new Z06 are covered for track use.

And what is covered?

[WildBillyT]

Last gen Z06, ZR1, current Z28 and new Z06 are covered for track use.



GM sends the mad scientist to tear the engine down and replace the piston rings you just fried, for free.

A few months back I looked for paperwork that supported this claim (as I believe it to be true) and couldn't find any.

Do you know where GM put it in writing?

[Blackbirdws6]

I have a feeling track use and track abuse will be commonly used terms here. Yes, you can use it on the track but if a failure is a result of abuse, then it won't be covered. Just my guess.

[Mike]

I have a feeling track use and track abuse will be commonly used terms here. Yes, you can use it on the track but if a failure is a result of abuse, then it won't be covered. Just my guess.

Di agree with brian. Something breaking while smoothly doing laps on an open track day is different then something breaking when you haul the car into the sand and beat the **** out of it trying to get out

Also will they eu cover the end result of the part failure or just the part that failed? Losing a suspension part or brake part at speed will end up more than likely killing the car

[BigAls87Z28]

A few months back I looked for paperwork that supported this claim (as I believe it to be true) and couldn't find any.

Do you know where GM put it in writing?

I will try to find the documentation, but both of the vice president of product development as well as the entire communication staff for Chevrolet performance has reiterated this time and time again.