Corvette C7 Z06

[Blackbirdws6]

Seems there was a flurry of updates yesterday after the performance numbers were released for the new C7Z.

Z07 package setup numbers
0-60 - 2.95 secs auto / 3.2 secs 7 spd
10.95 @ 127 for the auto / 11.2 @ 127 for the 7 spd
60-0 - 99 feet
1.2G lateral acceleration

$79k starting price (I assume the z07 package will bring this close to $100k)

http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-corvette-z06-hits-60mph-in-295-seconds-pulls-12g-in-corners.html

http://gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/2015-Chevrolet-Corvette-Z06-in-Daytona-Sunrise-Orange-Metallic-rear-34.jpg

http://max3.leftlanenews.com/photos/content/december2013/thumbnails5.0/z06-corvette_653.jpg


Who wants to rob a bank with me?

[ThoR294]

It is a sad day when the auto is faster than the manual :(

I'd still get a 7 speed. 3rd pedal ftw!

This car is so hot.....

[sweetbmxrider]

And it comes in orange :)

[1320B4U]

Love it.


....and I'm in w/robbing a bank. I've been known to do wonders w/evading authorities if I'm in an a8.

[Blackbirdws6]

First world problem is do I sell the G8 to try and snag one, but would need a daily driver. OR replace the G8 with a Charger Hellcat.....

[sweetbmxrider]

The problem is your garage, it needs moar bigger.

[ThoR294]

Ill trade you my G5 for the G8 so you have a DD :)

[Blackbirdws6]

Garage will never be big enough.

[Blackbirdws6]

Ill trade you my G5 for the G8 so you have a DD :)

I DD the G8 now though.... :nod:

[ThoR294]

yeahhhh but you can't have 3 RWD high HP cars!!!! lol.

Hell, I'd kill for a 1 car garage.

[NJSPEEDER]

Wasn't an optioned out C6 Z06 around $90-ish? Hopefully they can keep it at or under $100k nicely equipped to stay competitive with the Nissan GT-R.

Can't think of anything else they should be competing against directly. Really anything that is in that performance range from the Euro brands costs more and anything selling for a similar price delivers less performance.

-Tim

[NastyEllEssWon]

First world problem is do I sell the G8 to try and snag one, but would need a daily driver. OR replace the G8 with a Charger Hellcat.....




Charger Hellcats are pure perfection. there isnt an angle on that car that i dont like it at :D

[NJSPEEDER]

The Hellcat is the size a a school bus and can only go in a straight line, the Corvette specs released will make it a drivers race with the Corvette and you can enjoy corners instead of fearing them.

Hellcat is by design a toy car. It's for someone that wants to brag to their friends about the limited edition car they bought. The Corvette would be a better car to live with.

[sweetbmxrider]

Um, it has 4 doors? It has a tolerable ride hide. It doesn't scream for attention either. The corvette is clearly a toy car.

[qwikz28]

What's impressive to me is the use of lightweight materials in a car that really doesn't cost much more than a 5 series. I'm pretty excited to see one of these on the road. A few small mods should make this thing maniacal.

[NJSPEEDER]

Um, it has 4 doors? It has a tolerable ride hide. It doesn't scream for attention either. The corvette is clearly a toy car.

Have you heard how loud the Wildcat is in the videos that have been released? The Corvette attracts attention with style, the Dodge has to literally scream for it. lol

Besides, the last generation of Corvettes had great ride quality. I don't see why this would be any different.

[redsoxsstink]

What's impressive to me is the use of lightweight materials in a car that really doesn't cost much more than a 5 series. I'm pretty excited to see one of these on the road. A few small mods should make this thing maniacal.

0-60 in low 3 high 2 second range is a maniac for me. i think it looks like a bargain at that price range. i want to see the CTS-V with an LT1:shock:

[sweetbmxrider]

It doesn't sound loud to me but that's tough to tell in a video and I know people say its loud. Nonetheless, vettes have a race mode aka open exhaust. Will a vette take a turn quicker than a hellcat? Obviously. For the price and what you get, there is something to say about dollar per smile. http://jalopnik.com/dodge-charger-hellcat-also-stupid-fast-does-0-60-in-2-1641256969 0-60 in 2.9 seconds and 10.7's on drag radials with what most believe to be a sandbagged pass, there is a lot of performance under the hood. As far as the toy car point, a sedan has much more day to day function over a 2 seater or a coupe. It also has plenty of trunk space which is useful in day to day. Then look at the ride height. Pot holes, puddles, snow, and a tree branch will make a vette driver panic while its a little more tolerable in the charger. They are both amazing cars but to say a vette is a better car to live with and a hell cat is a toy, well that just isn't true.

[Blackbirdws6]

Have you heard how loud the Wildcat is in the videos that have been released? The Corvette attracts attention with style, the Dodge has to literally scream for it. lol

Besides, the last generation of Corvettes had great ride quality. I don't see why this would be any different.

Two different vehicles looking to attract different customers. They are alike in general HP and performance specs. The vette will be the better car no doubt however having a 4 door with over 700hp and a factory warranty is very appealing (It's also at least ~$15-$17k cheaper). I would expect both cars to make the right amount of noise. The C5/6/7 all have very good ride quality IMO but the Z07 option is going to be a firm, track focused suspension.

I was only window shopping both since my current vehicle configuration would just about force me to get a new daily if we selected a vette (total of 5 cars for 2 people lol). The Charger would be a direct replacement for my G8 since my commute to work is only about 10 miles so fuel mileage isn't a major concern. All pie in the sky ideas at the moment considering I wouldn't jump on either within the year since I'm sure dealers will gouge the crap out of both cars.

[BonzoHansen]

i dunno, if i wanted a 4 door, what does an m5 run now? Over $100k?

[Blackbirdws6]

Easily.... $93k base price.

[BonzoHansen]

I'd rather a used m5 than a new dodge product, but to each their own.

[qwikz28]

I'd rather a used m5 than a new dodge product, but to each their own.

Any particular reason, or just personal preference?

[Blackbirdws6]

I'd rather a used m5 than a new dodge product, but to each their own.

Reliability of a used BMW or new Dodge is questionable...

[NJSPEEDER]

Any particular reason, or just personal preference?

BMW's are a nice place to sit while you wait for the tow truck. lol

[qwikz28]

BMW's are a nice place to sit while you wait for the tow truck. lol

My buddy is a BMW guy and his and his wife's car are miserable to work on. They constantly go wrong, too. They do drive great, though. If I had the money and the patience, I would get one.

[greenformula92]

I wish I had the resources for a z06 in general. Let alone this one. But I shall drool at it. How close does this come to the fastest production cars? I'm sure the Bugatti is a little quicker

[NJSPEEDER]

Corvette will never hang with hypercar royalty. It's role is to fight for the best value in the supercar market against the GT-R and Viper. It certainly holds its own in that fight.

[greenformula92]

should of been clearer. meant strictly in 1/4 mile times

[1320B4U]

Corvette is just an all around better car than the viper. Everyday drive-ability, comfort, economy, ease to work on etc. Each has its benefit however the vette truly is an everyday type car you wouldn't hate to drive.

[ThoR294]

Wow bonzo.... A BMW over a Mopar? :P Lol. I will never own a German car.... Over engineered over priced garbage and a pain to work on.

[BonzoHansen]

Wow bonzo.... A BMW over a Mopar? :P Lol. I will never own a German car.... Over engineered over priced garbage and a pain to work on.

If I got $100k to drop on a daily driver, hell yeah. Drive both and call me. I never drove a dodge that I thought drove really great. M-cars are fun to drive.

[ThoR294]

I guess that is true. At that point money is probably no object and you don't have to fix it lol :P. They are nice to drive.... But $$$$$

[sweetbmxrider]

If I got $100k to drop on a daily driver, hell yeah. Drive both and call me. I never drove a dodge that I thought drove really great. M-cars are fun to drive.

The hellcat is $61k....

[greenformula92]

The hellcat is $61k....

before dealer mark up

[sweetbmxrider]

before dealer mark up

They are going to mark it up $40k?

:nick:

[Blackbirdws6]

The price for the Z06 and Hellcat will calm down in 6 months to a year. That's if they keep on pace with demand.

[ThoR294]

When I fix cars on the side, I literally charge more because its a german car.

PCV system on my sisters 05 audi a4 turd.... $1100 in PARTS.

Over.
Engineered.
Poop.

I'd rather pay 70k for a hellcat than 100k for a piece that will sit in the shop longer than on the road...

[LTb1ow]

When I fix cars on the side, I literally charge more because its a german car.

PCV system on my sisters 05 audi a4 turd.... $1100 in PARTS.

Over.
Engineered.
Poop.

I'd rather pay 70k for a hellcat than 100k for a piece that will sit in the shop longer than on the road...

We are talking about a Dodge automobile right? Same page on that? Dodge?

[BonzoHansen]

We are talking about a Dodge automobile right? Same page on that? Dodge?

lol yeah

[ThoR294]

We are talking about a Dodge automobile right? Same page on that? Dodge?

Hey, we drive opti cars... so we can't be knocking on Dodge!

Mopar, More Parts! at least they are affordable parts! lol.

We had a 92 Voyager that we ran into the ground. Transmission finally went at 250k miles (typical mopar).

I'd rather roll my dice with a Dodge than a BMW. at least I'll have like $30k in my pocket to do stuff with :P

[sweetbmxrider]

Hearsay is teh lulz

[LTb1ow]

Hey, we drive opti cars... so we can't be knocking on Dodge!

Mopar, More Parts! at least they are affordable parts! lol.

We had a 92 Voyager that we ran into the ground. Transmission finally went at 250k miles (typical mopar).

I'd rather roll my dice with a Dodge than a BMW. at least I'll have like $30k in my pocket to do stuff with :P

Speak for yourself, none of my vehicles have optisparks or a distributor for that matter.

hellcat = cheap muscle car
vette = high end pasta killer

Vette > hellcat

Dodge, lulz.

[Blackbirdws6]

Hey, we drive opti cars... so we can't be knocking on Dodge!


He no longer has an opti and has chosen less serviceable options for his ignition control.

I have no bearing on how reliable the SRT cars have been but I'm sure owners will be putting their hellcats to the test. Same for C7Z owners. Suffice to say, I rolled the dice on a 1st year model with the G8 which served me well. I won't be dipping my toe into either of these without others vetting these a bit (maybe a little pun intended).

[ThoR294]

I say Vette > all in this case though lol

[Blackbirdws6]

I say Vette > all in this case though lol

No doubt but $20k-$40k is a big gap.

[sweetbmxrider]

Speak for yourself, none of my vehicles have optisparks or a distributor for that matter.

hellcat = cheap muscle car
vette = high end pasta killer

Vette > hellcat

Dodge, lulz.

Your pos vette can sit outside in the rain while my aventador spins around on a lazy susan in my living room.

Lambo > your crap


Oh and what's with your wtb a vortec dizzy thread? There are wrinkles in yo ironing.

[ThoR294]

Oh and what's with your wtb a vortec dizzy thread? There are wrinkles in yo ironing.

http://i.imgur.com/agJIP.gif

[qwikz28]

I won't be dipping my toe into either of these without others vetting these a bit (maybe a little pun intended).

http://trishkhoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Man-clapping.gif

[NastyEllEssWon]

lol I dunno about the vettes being ''high end'' really. it may be chevy's top dog but its still put together on the cheap. i saw a few vettes recently and they had horrible paint jobs on them from the factories and ive read a few articles of them even stopping delivery on them for multiple reasons.

Them Chargers though...4 door car, in a non cop magnet with the power and performance for the price of a base model vette. Id rather have the best and most powerful sedan ever built, than the cheapest performance car in the high end segment :D

[BonzoHansen]

Best sedan ever built? Quite a stretch.

[ThoR294]

best sedan ever built? hmmm.

Reliably... I'd say Camry. I see so many with 300k miles on it.

Overall... Taurus SHO (old or new) or a G8

:)

[WildBillyT]

Best sedan ever built? Quite a stretch.

Very much so.

Charger Hellcat looks like a great car on paper but it's nowhere near best.

[NJSPEEDER]

When I think fun car, sedan or otherwise, 2.5 ton vehicles don't spring to mind. If any consideration is to be given for a high performance school bus I would say a Bentley at 4ish times the price is still a better value than a Dodge on a pick up truck frame.

-Tim

[sweetbmxrider]

So much hate for something you've never sat in! For 4x the price, I'd buy a house. For $60k, show me better. It sure isn't a zl1.....

[LTb1ow]

So much hate for something you've never sat in! For 4x the price, I'd buy a house. For $60k, show me better. It sure isn't a zl1.....

Compound turbo'd denail 2500hd, would be able to do 10s and be baller.

[BonzoHansen]

No hate here, expect interwebs hyperbole lol

[NJ346]

I can tell you from the powertrain side of things, I see hellcats abused on a daily basis. The interiors are largely improved, and IMO, nothing beats the Uconnect system that Dodge has right now(With the exception of GM offering LTE over Chryslers 3G wifi).

[sweetbmxrider]

Compound turbo'd denail 2500hd, would be able to do 10s and be baller.

Your truck bases at $50k. I'm not sure you are within the $60k budget and I do believe you !warranty which is no bueno.

[1320B4U]

E39 M5..One of the best sedans ever built....and I'm not a beemer fan....just giving credit where its due. Great drivers cars should have the ability to be manually shifted (i'll give you the 1.5 gen s.h.o b/c it was a trendsetter, but the 2nd gen killed it ((a round radio...stop w/the roundness abound)). New sho is too big.

[qwikz28]

E39 M5..One of the best sedans ever built....and I'm not a beemer fan....just giving credit where its due.

I'll let you know. My buddy just bought one and I'm going to drive it Friday. :D

Best sedan ever built is the 190e 2.3-16v Cosworth. Duh!

[NastyEllEssWon]

For $60k, show me better. It sure isn't a zl1.....



This is my point here. 60k for the hellcat gets you a lot of car for the money. this is probably the best bang for your buck performance wise ever. you get a 10 second car (solid 11s)...a warranty...not skimping on space in the interior for day to day functions all wrapped up in a package thats appealing from every angle but not too busy to catch the eye of cops like a sports car would. I havent seen any car ever made that can pull that off.

Edit: its bang for your buck that originally drew me towards f-bodies in the first place.

[BonzoHansen]

Lol $60k bang for the buck. I get it, it just sounds funny

[NastyEllEssWon]

Lol $60k bang for the buck. I get it, it just sounds funny



haha yeah I guess so but everythings expensive anyway. a top of the line camaro or mustang can easily come close to that ballpark if you pile on the options

[sweetbmxrider]

Exactly, compared to what's new out there, $60k isn't crazy anymore.

[greenformula92]

Exactly, compared to what's new out there, $60k isn't crazy anymore.

That statement by itself is crazy...and also true unfortunately.

[BigAls87Z28]

You can't honestly say that any SRT is a sleeper much less the Hellcat.

[NastyEllEssWon]

You can't honestly say that any SRT is a sleeper much less the Hellcat.



lol who said sleeper....i said cop magnet. take a vette and a hellcat down the road together....take a guess which one the cops getting behind

[greenformula92]

lol who said sleeper....i said cop magnet. take a vette and a hellcat down the road together....take a guess which one the cops getting behind

that depends...how old is the guy driving said vette?

[NJSPEEDER]

How to avoid being a cop magnet in one easy step

#1 DON'T DRIVE LIKE A COMPLETE S*** FOR BRAINS J***OFF ALL THE TIME!!!!!

lol

If we are going to discuss comfortable performance sedans that are good value we should discuss the Chevy SS. If memory serves it is close to $20k less than the Hellcat, IMHO it's a better looking car, weighs about half a ton less, and is still over 400hp.

[12secondv6]

What about a neon hellcat??? :rofl::shock:

Actually, all the above cars mentioned are bad ass.

Vette = bad ass
Hellcat charger = bad ass
Hellcat challenger = bad ass

It's the horsepower wars again...but just plain insane now.

Each car has something unique.

For me, the charger hellcat is the most practical out of all of them.

I just want to see a really good driver, cold weather and maybe some sticky tires on a hellcat.

I heard a rumor that true slicks n very cold weather got 10.2 in the 1/4.

If it's true.....how many other cars under $65K can go that quick?

[sweetbmxrider]

If we are going to discuss comfortable performance sedans that are good value we should discuss the Chevy SS. If memory serves it is close to $20k less than the Hellcat, IMHO it's a better looking car, weighs about half a ton less, and is still over 400hp.

Awesome car, would love one. Good bang for your buck like the g8 but doesn't come close to the power unfortunately. One could argue money saved could buy the supercharger etc but for a car company to sell you a complete package that's been tested etc AND has a warranty, well to me that's just plain awesome. Do love the ss though :drool:

[1320B4U]

Has anyone even bought an ss. Anytime I've ever seen one is at a dealership, not 1 on the road so far that I have seen. Reminds me too much of the g8...its been done already, but then again I'm still immensely partial to the land yacht 94-96 impala ss's.

ted, ted..lol.

[BonzoHansen]

no but I see the NJSP driving new caprices

[WildBillyT]

Has anyone even bought an ss. Anytime I've ever seen one is at a dealership, not 1 on the road so far that I have seen. Reminds me too much of the g8...its been done already, but then again I'm still immensely partial to the land yacht 94-96 impala ss's.

ted, ted..lol.

Yes, the house across the street from my daughter's day care has a black one parked out in front almost every day.

no but I see the NJSP driving new caprices

Yeah, and they are bad freaking ass

[sully91rs]

The Haddonfield police department has an SS. Looks mean. That's the only SS I've ever seen.

[1320B4U]

p/a police have the impala's, but ss's are unicorns in my daily travels.

[greenformula92]

Has anyone even bought an ss. Anytime I've ever seen one is at a dealership, not 1 on the road so far that I have seen. Reminds me too much of the g8...its been done already, but then again I'm still immensely partial to the land yacht 94-96 impala ss's.

ted, ted..lol.

looks to me you already know who to call on that one lol

[Featherburner]

no but I see the NJSP driving new capricesI'm going to fit one of these on the G8!http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u3/jdhawk93/IMG_20140926_135425_305_zps2k44qrvi.jpg (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/jdhawk93/media/IMG_20140926_135425_305_zps2k44qrvi.jpg.html)

[Mike]

The Haddonfield police department has an SS. Looks mean. That's the only SS I've ever seen.

They have a caprice

[1320B4U]

Is the 'police package' just a rebadged ss though?

[Paul Huryk]

p/a police have the impala's, but ss's are unicorns in my daily travels.

LOL

I've seen a Porsche 959, but never an SS - even at larger dealerships...

[BigAls87Z28]

Is the 'police package' just a rebadged ss though?

The Caprice is a LWB version of the Commodore/G8/SS.
Comes with a 3.6 V6 or 6.0 V8

[BigAls87Z28]

LOL

I've seen a Porsche 959, but never an SS - even at larger dealerships...

Bridgwater Chevy has a nice black one I want to buy.

[maroman88]

think theyre still packaged as 9c1 for marked units and 9c3 for detective/stealth units?

[NastyEllEssWon]

I havent actually seen an SS out in the wild yet. I've seen the caprice cop cars but no SS's sadly. Theyre not bad looking cars but I like the boxy cutoff look of the chargers snout more than I like the bulbous front end of the SS in the pics. I have no doubt that it probably looks tons better in person, but the charger's are just really nice. Adam's point is probably the biggest kicker of them all...you get the power and performance thats practical and comes with a warranty. In the price range the amount of pro's for the Hellcat can't be ignore :D

[sully91rs]

They have a caprice

I retract. I've never seen an SS on the street.

[greenformula92]

I've never seen the SS on the street but I did see one in the showroom at Lester Glenn a few months back. Pictures really don't do it justice. It is a bad ass car with a pretty good bang for the buck. And it sounds really good exhaust wise. Idk what Chevy is doing but the exhaust on the Chevy sports cars has come a long way from sounding weak and pathetically quiet to sounding just down right manacing and pretty loud for a factory car.

[NJ Torque]

think theyre still packaged as 9c1 for marked units and 9c3 for detective/stealth units?


Correct. The 9c3 comes with a full console, cloth seats and rear seat, and full sized hubcaps.

[ws6 jim]

I work in Skillman just north of Prineton and the Montgomery Police have marked Caprices as well unmarked black ones. Someone in the next office complex has a white SS. I can see how they are easy to mix up until you see them on a regular basis. On the subject of the thread I can tell you 460 hp is plenty for the chassis of the C7 and couldn't imagine having an extra 190 on tap.

[redsoxsstink]

http://www.corvetteforum.com/articles/first-2015-corvette-z06-blow-engine/

sounds like a driver error to me.. glad they are replacing it under warranty, i always thought GM took care of corvette owners under warranty.

[Blackbirdws6]

I'm sure GM will be looking into the issue and pulling PCM data to see what went wrong. Why do you think it was driver error?

[redsoxsstink]

me thinks he missed a shift..

[Blackbirdws6]

Unless it was a mechanical over rev, hitting the limiter shouldn't result in a catastrophic failure. I have to believe they have some general protection from this with current performance vehicles. Maybe not...

[redsoxsstink]

this is true, im sure the "black box" in the car is always monitoring something so i wouldn't be surprised if that is reviewed when determining the reason for failure.