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6spdg37s
03-10-2016, 06:29 PM
Swapped my rear in the winter to a 9" , same time swapped the master with a dorman master. car drives great on the street. get to e-town last night to run and kept getting locked out of 2-3-4 under full throttle.

off the track car drives normal...

so obviously 1 issue is hydrolics again, the dorman sucks for what im trying to do and I should swap to the tick master. , the slave is possibly failing , clutch is starting to go.

which leaves me at these choices :

-monster stage 2
-monster stage 3 (which is actually cheaper than stage 2)
-Spec stage 2

Should I do the aluminum flywheel or steel flywheel ? lighter or regular weight ? 28lb v 18lb

Should I just start with the Master and take it from there or should I just do everything at once? I really didn't wanna dumb cash like this but I wanna race this season.

V
03-10-2016, 08:06 PM
i hate spec, I suggest LS7

6spdg37s
03-10-2016, 08:36 PM
i hate spec, I suggest LS7

idk i had problems with my ls7 clutch when i had my z06... i launch at like 6k at the track

V
03-10-2016, 09:19 PM
In my '01 SS,
@10k I spun the splines inside my oem "ls6" clutch. Installed a shiny new spec stage 3.
Chatter was horrible all the time. The Spec would cause the pedal to hang up and not come back, allowing for me to over-rev it not in gear. When it came out, the pressure plate was junk, marks and hot spots all over it, the disc, and flywheel.
So when I did the motor swap(425rwhp), I installed a Textralia clutch. It was perfect however I don't think they are available anymore. Was from Australia.
I ran stock, non-drilled master and a stock slave. Performed great!
However, I did not launch at that high of an rpm, lol, nor did I ever run drag radials since I had a stock rear.

In my 05 CTS-V, I installed the LS7 clutch after the dual-mass pos flywheel tilted. I drove that car pretty hard and it never gave me any issues, and its quite a bit heavier than an f-body.

B4C
03-11-2016, 09:08 AM
I hated my monster stage 3. McLeod twin disk....get that.

deadtrend1
03-11-2016, 12:43 PM
Mccleod ... JSPerformance is a dealer.

xrelapse13
03-11-2016, 02:41 PM
McLeod or LS7

Had two Monster clutches come apart on me, one with less than 1k miles and nothing over 3k rpms cause engine was on break in, and another one after 8k miles and no drag radials. springs on the hub were broken.

Put a buddy's used ls7 in after that and beat 10 shades of ***** out of it with 0 issues before upgrading to a Mantic Twin

6spdg37s
03-11-2016, 05:32 PM
I won't do the monster, but def not doing LS7 clutch. Looking at the spec 2+ and 3. Im not sure how i feel about mcleod. and I dont want to do a twin disk

deadtrend1
03-11-2016, 05:39 PM
I would never do a spec again, but its your car.

V
03-11-2016, 05:58 PM
http://www.xmotorsports.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29841

I'm pretty sure I had the OZ700

Not sure if that site sells them still, otherwise contact textralia directly.
http://www.textralia.com.au/

6spdg37s
03-12-2016, 08:20 AM
I am most 99.9 going with the spec 3 because thats what my boy/tuner dave@efx uses exclusively... he's had tons of seat time with those so I trust his opinion.

V
03-12-2016, 08:25 AM
Ok, perhaps they have gotten better since I used one, because that was almost 14 years ago, lol, and things do change.

Let us know how it works out. Eventually I'm doing a motor/T56 swap into my GTA and I'll be looking for a clutch to hold 505+ flywheel hp.

6spdg37s
03-12-2016, 09:55 AM
Im so pissed because I hate when things don't make sense...

Just took my car out... line lock burnout, launch at 5200 , bang 1-4 at redline no prob... meanwhile at the track couldnt get in gear

sweetbmxrider
03-12-2016, 12:13 PM
Welcome to drag racing....

6spdg37s
03-12-2016, 07:29 PM
ya i know its all part of the game but to b honest... i hate nothing more than having the car down during track season...

Wanted to race tomorrow at street wars but I couldnt even run a solid ****** time to bracket tomorrow lmao...

ThoR294
03-13-2016, 10:08 AM
Spec sucks

xrelapse13
03-14-2016, 11:20 AM
Tick Master Cylinder. Probably getting the typical crap gm hydraulic issues

qwikz28
03-14-2016, 05:24 PM
JSPerf built me a custom clutch after I burned through a Spec 3i. The Spec just couldn't hold the power. You would be remiss to buy a clutch without first talking to Josh. He's a sponsor and he's the real deal when it comes to drivetrains.

6spdg37s
03-14-2016, 06:14 PM
I had my boy Dave@efx put together a package for me...
-spec stage 3 6 puck
-spec slave cylinder
-spec speed bleeder
-spec steel flywheel

ThoR294
03-15-2016, 01:36 PM
well we all told you no spec... lol. my stage 2 chattered and smelled, and burned up under stock power. my stage 1 is just as bad. I can't wait to replace it.

stage 2 under stock lt1 power.

http://i.imgur.com/sb0cWww.jpg

Dave@EFX
03-15-2016, 05:54 PM
well we all told you no spec... lol. my stage 2 chattered and smelled, and burned up under stock power. my stage 1 is just as bad. I can't wait to replace it.

stage 2 under stock lt1 power.

http://i.imgur.com/sb0cWww.jpg

Not to be that guy, but was the slave shimmed correctly?

ThoR294
03-15-2016, 06:06 PM
Not to be that guy, but was the slave shimmed correctly?

LT1s don't have shims, as we have pull style. I asked spec if I needed to do anything special and they said no.

Dave@EFX
03-15-2016, 06:10 PM
LT1s don't have shims, as we have pull style. I asked spec if I needed to do anything special and they said no.

Odd, I can't say I've honestly had any problems with these Spec units. Would it slip when making a pass?

ThoR294
03-15-2016, 06:37 PM
Nope it grips really good. It just hates street driving. I figured the stage 2 was over kill so I went with the 1. Same thing. Any parking lot maneuvers and it chatters and smells

Dave@EFX
03-15-2016, 06:48 PM
Nope it grips really good. It just hates street driving. I figured the stage 2 was over kill so I went with the 1. Same thing. Any parking lot maneuvers and it chatters and smells

I tell all my customers that their is a fine line between performance and comfort. Some sacrifices must be made to get an ET and ET must be sacrificed to get comfort.

6spdg37s
03-15-2016, 06:54 PM
I tell all my customers that their is a fine line between performance and comfort. Some sacrifices must be made to get an ET and ET must be sacrificed to get comfort.

lol people look at me weird in parking lots when my spool chatters/makes its skipping noises ...

they dont know how u can launch at 6500 all day lol

B4C
03-15-2016, 08:48 PM
I dont want to do a twin disk

Why?

6spdg37s
03-15-2016, 09:03 PM
cause too much clutch for what I have... also alot more money that isn't really necessary

ThoR294
03-16-2016, 02:04 PM
I tell all my customers that their is a fine line between performance and comfort. Some sacrifices must be made to get an ET and ET must be sacrificed to get comfort.

well I bought a STREET clutch... and it doesn't like STREET driving... lol. It also apparently can't handle ~275 crank hp

Sprayed 99
03-28-2016, 01:14 AM
Mcleod rst, rxt or street twin. Specs are garbage. Seen bunch of failures. Hell.....had one weld the disc to the flywheel in a buddies car down in Ocean City Maryland.....what a bitch that was to break free on the street! Another friend of mine welded his at the dragstrip. Waste of time and money IMO. But go ahead OP.....your car and your money

deadtrend1
03-28-2016, 09:14 PM
Mcleod rst, rxt or street twin. Specs are garbage. Seen bunch of failures. Hell.....had one weld the disc to the flywheel in a buddies car down in Ocean City Maryland.....what a bitch that was to break free on the street! Another friend of mine welded his at the dragstrip. Waste of time and money IMO. But go ahead OP.....your car and your money

I used a spec once about 12 years ago. Didnt make it out of the garage because the pressure plate wasnt machined flat, so contact was only made on half the surface area. I cant describe how bad the car shook.

Never used spec since.

BarneyMobile
03-28-2016, 11:42 PM
I had two spec 3+ and welded both. Switched to the McLeod RXT. I must say, McLeod makes a really nice clutch. Works very well at the track yet it has incredible street manners.

6spdg37s
04-16-2016, 11:41 AM
Got about 250 on the clutch now for break-in and I am really happy with it so far.

ThoR294
04-17-2016, 09:10 PM
I enjoyed my stage 1 for about 3k miles then it went to ****, again.