1991 Formula Damage Photos/ Make me SICK!

[edpontiac91]

Here are the pictures I NEVER hoped to see:rofl:. Lots of small items I may be able to get off and IF somebody is interested in buying it back from me (once I get a figure) let me know.

More pictures of the DAMAGE in the next thread!

[edpontiac91]

More photos, there is an awesome amount of tiems that could really benefit somebody here i.e., MINT Interior and door panels-SLP parts-3:73 rear-L98-700R4-Trans Am wheels-1LE driveshaft-BORLA-Edlebrock LCA/ Panhard bar-Hotchkis STB and MUCH more. All of this stuff, is in LIKE NEW CONDITION!:nod:

[WildBillyT]

Ed-

Did they total it out? It really blows to see the car like that but honestly I expected worse.

[Punkmaster 98]

That isn't as bad as I was expecting. Definitely repairable.

[V]

yea, honestly not that bad

[edpontiac91]

Ed-

Did they total it out? It really blows to see the car like that but honestly I expected worse.

I got the Insurance agent to meet up with my body shop guy and I'am now waiting to see what the out come is. The rear 1/4 is really pushed in at the bottom and also at the top end. It is worse than it looks. It needs a rear 1/4 which is going to require a donor car. Both front and rear bumpers are gone and repairing RUBBER used parts car had small dents which will not show up until gloss paint is applied. The front bumper is pushed in and bent down, so who knows what is damaged under it. The part that sucks, is that NOBODY i.e., such as Classic Industries-Yearbook One etc., makes reproduction parts for the 1991-92 Firebird because it was a limited mod just for those 2 years. The OEM is LONG gone, so that leaves me with no way to get QUALITY parts and I would not want to have to track down a donor car and go thru that PIA:rofl:. So the bottom line is, IF it is totaled (my body shop feels it is) then I would like to see what my buy back is and offer it (as a total car) to anyone who wants it for the quality like parts that this car has to offer. I will NOT piece it out, it's ALL or nothing.

[WildBillyT]

I got the Insurance agent to meet up with my body shop guy and I'am now waiting to see what the out come is. The rear 1/4 is really pushed in at the bottom and also at the top end. It is worse than it looks. It needs a rear 1/4 which is going to require a donor car. Both front and rear bumpers are gone and repairing RUBBER used parts car had small dents which will not show up until gloss paint is applied. The front bumper is pushed in and bent down, so who knows what is damaged under it. The part that sucks, is that NOBODY i.e., such as Classic Industries-Yearbook One etc., makes reproduction parts for the 1991-92 Firebird because it was a limited mod just for those 2 years. The OEM is LONG gone, so that leaves me with no way to get QUALITY parts and I would not want to have to track down a donor car and go thru that PIA:rofl:. So the bottom line is, IF it is totaled (my body shop feels it is) then I would like to see what my buy back is and offer it (as a total car) to anyone who wants it for the quality like parts that this car has to offer. I will NOT piece it out, it's ALL or nothing.

That's probably the best way to do it. I'm sure there are plenty of people who could repair it and be really happy with the result. But they would have to not care about used/repro stuff.

Goodmark appears to make a quarter:

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/gmk-4322-600-82r/overview/year/1992/make/pontiac/model/firebird

But who knows what the fit is like, and I can't tell if it covers the repair area.

[BonzoHansen]

I bet the rear frame rails are bent. They dont take hits well.

[edpontiac91]

I bet the rear frame rails are bent. They dont take hits well.

The car still drives straight and I had a set of ALSTON SFC on it. I would have fixed this in a heartbeat IF the rear 1/4 could have been saved. So much work involved in getting it back to looking as good as it did BEFORE accident:-x. Being ANAL doesn't help when OEM parts do not exist and reproduction parts are also NOT MADE, because this was an only 2 year (1991-92) design.:rofl:

[BonzoHansen]

I be there is nos stuff out there. i see NOS first and second gen stuff all the time

[edpontiac91]

I be there is nos stuff out there. i see NOS first and second gen stuff all the time

Thanks for the tip, just checked it out and NADA (nothing).

[BonzoHansen]

what did you check out? To find NOS stuff you need to prowl forums, CL nationwide, ebay, etc.

[V]

Let me know the buy back please, would make a fun winter project

[BonzoHansen]

Let me know the buy back please, would make a fun winter project

...and here is why your cars aren't done lol

[V]

...and here is why your cars aren't done lol

I have an addiction.... lol (Plus tons of spare parts I can put to use)

[Punkmaster 98]

There is nothing wrong with used oem parts. you can easily find a rust free qtr panel. They are out there. The nose is easy to fine as well. I understand how you feel but its the body shops job to make it look like it never happened.

[WSex]

Reminds me of my split bumper. :( the crashed part

[sweetbmxrider]

Let me know the buy back please, would make a fun winter project

And if he is selling at the buy back price. I can't tell, it reads either way :lol:

[Frosty]

Just food for thought, lets say they total it and give you a good buy back price...why not just fix it?

[BonzoHansen]

Just food for thought, lets say they total it and give you a good buy back price...why not just fix it?

likely salvage title would be my first problem.

[Frosty]

likely salvage title would be my first problem.

Why? Is NJ difficult to deal with that stuff?

[Mike]

Very

[sweetbmxrider]

I was chatting with an adjuster and he does it on the side for fun. It really just kills residual value but its not that big of a deal to go through the salvage process so long as you cross your t's, dot your i's, and maintain records. No first hand experience though.

[edpontiac91]

Arggg, :facepalm:

[madness410]

wow ed im sorry to hear about your car. sometimes your bad luck saves you from worse luck im happy you and everyone involved is ok. as for the car i really hope you get some good news on it.

[BonzoHansen]

I was chatting with an adjuster and he does it on the side for fun. It really just kills residual value but its not that big of a deal to go through the salvage process so long as you cross your t's, dot your i's, and maintain records. No first hand experience though.

its that value thing that matters. especially when you go to sell it.

[Featherburner]

A salvage title is not a big deal. There are legal ways to make the salvage disappear.

[V]

My one bike was a new Hampshire salvage title. I went through the whole process in nj to get a clear title. Was pretty easy actually for me at least. To do it with a car to sell as original, not worth it. But if i buy a salvage car for 1/8 actual value, fix with another 1/8 value into it, as long as i could sell for half the normal value, i profit. But that's only people who fix and flip cars. For enthusiasts sometimes its just having a certain car and not caring what it'll sell for one day.

[ted gerlach]

if he has a clear title now and does not turn it over to insurance company it will still be a clean title just the an accident mark, just tell them no matter what your keeping car and going to have it fixed no mater what,

[sweetbmxrider]

its that value thing that matters. especially when you go to sell it.

Yup but like what Paul and Ted said, you can make it work.

[Frosty]

its that value thing that matters. especially when you go to sell it.

True but seeing Ed post as long as I have he'd never get the sentimental value for it anyway...so it's worth looking into especially if there wouldn't be any plans to sell it for a long time.

[Tru2Chevy]

if he has a clear title now and does not turn it over to insurance company it will still be a clean title just the an accident mark, just tell them no matter what your keeping car and going to have it fixed no mater what,

Yea, I don't think this will be an issue. Went through this with my Jeep when it was hit while parked. Was declared an obvious total loss with 1/4 panel damage on a 23 year old Jeep with 285k-ish miles, but it didn't drive any differently after the hit, and the buyback was under $400, so I bought it back and have kept on driving it, same insurance company & policy, no change to the title.

- Justin

[Teds89IROC]

if he has a clear title now and does not turn it over to insurance company it will still be a clean title just the an accident mark, just tell them no matter what your keeping car and going to have it fixed no mater what,

yup. Same story with my IROC.