So I heard you like HP.....

[Blackbirdws6]

Looks like Dodge is upping the ante on the Hellcat brand with the new Demon. It will slot above the Challenger Hellcat and likely have more rubber, fender, hp and of course....$$. My hats off to their marketing folks for using the name and the logo. Hopefully the execution lives up to the hype it will create.

http://roa.h-cdn.co/assets/17/02/1484233432-demon.jpg

It's nice to see each of the big 3 brands having a rather clear focus with their vehicles. The GT350 has a unique engine and is more focused for track work, the new ZL1 is likely the best all-rounder and the Hellcat is HP/noise more suited for the 1/4. I wonder what Ford will bring with the GT500.

[WildBillyT]

A family friend is getting a 2017 ZL1, I think production starts mid Feb.

What a time to be a gearhead.

[sweetbmxrider]

How much PAH!?

[Blackbirdws6]

A family friend is getting a 2017 ZL1, I think production starts mid Feb.

What a time to be a gearhead.

Def a fun time. I think the M6 ZL1's were in customer hands already but the A10 gets going soon - likely Feb as you mentioned.

How much PAH!?

Vinnie may know but doubt he will be able to say anything for employment reasons. It would be fun if they did 999hp (666 flipped over) but doubt it. There is chatter it will do low 10's/high 9's in the 1/4 so I'm guessing the HP bump is more than a little.

[WildBillyT]

Yeah, they are getting an A10. Insert BRRRRRRT joke here

[ThoR294]

999hp would be epic. very nice logo too.

I agree with the big 3 in the pony car field. All 3 are making stupid fast cars out of the box.

I wish GM/Dodge did more in the compact scene though. Focus RS looks like a fun car. Chevy and Dodge have no answer.

[WildBillyT]

999hp would be epic. very nice logo too.

I agree with the big 3 in the pony car field. All 3 are making stupid fast cars out of the box.

I wish GM/Dodge did more in the compact scene though. Focus RS looks like a fun car. Chevy and Dodge have no answer.

Turbo a Cruze, call it a Nova? Please?

[Blackbirdws6]

Turbo a Cruze, call it a Nova? Please?

Cruze already has a turbo :nick:

[ThoR294]

Turbo a Cruze, call it a Nova? Please?

I see what you did there :bertstare:

Cruze already has a turbo :nick:

It does. Makes same horsepower as NA cobalt :rofl:

[WildBillyT]

Cruze already has a turbo :nick:

Huh, I couldn't tell. :bertstare:

I guess I should have specified hotrod a turbo Cruze.

[The_Bishop]

All teh PAH.

[Jersey Mike]

What in the actual ****.

This is wild.

[ar0ck]

Now with 1mpg!

[LS1ow]

Double stick tape fender flares.
335 out back with 295s up front
800hp
Cool as hell badging

[edpontiac91]

I love ALL this SUPER HIGH horsepower, but all it's going to take, is ONE as Hole to wrap it around a pole or tree and away goes the crazes as HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH. These cars demand soooo much attention when WOT is given and the closing rate on upcoming traffic is hard to judge. Just keeping 500-600 hp on the ground is awe inspiring, but giving this much power to a kid or showoff is a recipe for serious damage. Just my :2cents:.

[Jersey Mike]

all it's going to take, is ONE as Hole to wrap it around a pole or tree and away goes the crazes as HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH.

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/Dodge/Challenger/Hellcat

...And yet, here we are introducing more PAH! :shrug:

[wrong generation]

I think dodge got this screwed up.

The demon was an option on the Dodge dart in the 70s.

They recently brought the dart back. Yet they are going to bring the demon back but put it on the challenger body? That makes no sense at all.

They should bring the demon back as a performance version of the dart. Give it the 666hp. That the name deserves. This should be a cheaper option then the hellcat not a more expensive option.

[sweetbmxrider]

You really want 600hp in a dart sold to the public?

[BonzoHansen]

You really want 600hp in a dart sold to the public?

I don't want any darts sold to the public. lol

[Jersey Mike]

I don't want any darts sold to the public. lol

:kneeslap:

[maroman88]

I don't want any darts sold to the public. lol

Dart was already discontinued after 2016.

[BonzoHansen]

Dart was already discontinued after 2016.

Problem solved!

[ThoR294]

Dart was an epic failure

[maroman88]

Dart was an epic failure

neon v2.0
The Cruze just slaughtered it lol

[wretched73]

I love ALL this SUPER HIGH horsepower, but all it's going to take, is ONE as Hole to wrap it around a pole or tree and away goes the crazes as HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH. These cars demand soooo much attention when WOT is given and the closing rate on upcoming traffic is hard to judge. Just keeping 500-600 hp on the ground is awe inspiring, but giving this much power to a kid or showoff is a recipe for serious damage. Just my :2cents:.

I was thinking a similar thing, Like how the big motorcycle companies put a stop to increasing power in their sport bikes

[Blackbirdws6]

New vid every week until NYIAS. Pretty good marketing.

1st vid was posted a few days ago.

R7-f6pzl2Lw

[sweetbmxrider]

That was very, very gay.

[BonzoHansen]

That was very, very gay.

i agree, that was stupid. silly dodge.

[Jersey Mike]

Anyone else getting a 90s vibe?
One commercial a week is a nice idea though. They can't all suck... right?

[LS1ow]

Here you go

[The_Bishop]

I don't want any darts sold to the public. lol

Easy, my wife drives one!

I don't know if I'd call it a failure as far as a vehicle goes. Seems put together well, is fairly peppy for a 4 banger. Handles well and the looks aren't bad. There were some odd design choices made (Like, why don't they *all* have automatic headlights?) but ultimately I think the big sales failure was the complete lack of advertising. Hell, I didn't even know that line was there until I saw one listed as a year-end-clearance.

[Blackbirdws6]

The ad doesn't do anything for me but I give them credit for the stir it caused with the Mopar loyalists.

[ThoR294]

that ending WTF

[WildBillyT]

Anyone else getting a 90s vibe?
One commercial a week is a nice idea though. They can't all suck... right?

Yes, they can.

These are the ones that made the cut. The other ad concepts weren't good enough to the agency.

[LS1ow]

apparently the add is very similar to a add mopar ran back in the day.

they just let michael bay get a hold of it.

[maroman88]

https://youtu.be/a6hjhFuQIbo

This week's video indicates weight reduction...

[Jersey Mike]

Cute.

[ThoR294]

Wonder how much they actually cut. It was the heaviest of the 3 i think

[wretched73]

Wonder how much they actually cut. It was the heaviest of the 3 i think

About 7 lbs

[V]

I watched it and tried seeing what parts they highlighted(glowed). I wonder if it that was a sign of where it was losing weight. If so, I think I remember seeing brakes, seats, and weatherstripping, lol.

[sweetbmxrider]

http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k398/61belair/GM%20inside%20news/IMG_3969.jpg

[Blackbirdws6]

^^^ LOL. I think I heard they are cutting about 200lbs.

[Jersey Mike]

That's some heavy weatherstripping.

[ThoR294]

image

:kneeslap:

That is the "Buck-naked" demon option

[redsoxsstink]

so the cat is out of the bag, 840 hp, 0-60 2.3s, 9.65@140 in the 1/4, pulls the wheels on the launch. not to shaby. theres more, but that's the meat and potatoes

S904YbiCebs

[sweetbmxrider]

Who's going to play with fire and hope it holds together??? Bls????

[redsoxsstink]

Who's going to play with fire and hope it holds together??? Bls????

comes with a steel drive shaft that is 15% stronger than the hellcats. :bertstare:

[ThoR294]

dat viper doe

[Blackbirdws6]

I like it and props to Dodge for building it. The Dodge "brotherhood" experience ship has sailed for me. 3300 units to be built and no pricing yet. Dealers will eat customers alive.

[LS1ow]

i bet it'll drift

[LTb1ow]

In for sob stories of rich idiots

[Jersey Mike]

i bet it'll drift

intentionally or...?

[ThoR294]

taking bets on markup?

[sweetbmxrider]

comes with a steel drive shaft that is 15% stronger than the hellcats. :bertstare:

Good thing it has almost 19% moar power!

:bertstare: Vinnie.....

[Blackbirdws6]

I think the odd thing they couldn't work around is the safety rules to run the 9 at the track. I'm not a NHRA rules expert by any stretch but I think the downfall of the car is not being able to run it all out. I'm sure at a private rental it wouldn't be an issue though. The 1.3x 60' is no joke, especially lifting 315 DRs in the front lol.

taking bets on markup?

$20k-$50k easy

Good thing it has almost 19% moar power!

:bertstare: Vinnie.....

Demon will never break at the track..... "Oh you were using all the pah and trying to break the NHRA rules, we don't cover that."

[qwikz28]

Why does the car come with drag radials up front? I know you get a set of skinnys in the trunk, but why?

[BonzoHansen]

Why does the car come with drag radials up front? I know you get a set of skinnys in the trunk, but why?
maybe they vibrate less

[Blackbirdws6]

Why does the car come with drag radials up front? I know you get a set of skinnys in the trunk, but why?

So you can rotate the tires/wheels.

maybe they vibrate less

Not a chance. Vibration is the norm and within design parameters.

[sweetbmxrider]

NHRA prob doesn't wanna budge on the cage etc requirements of +135mph -10.0et

[qwikz28]

NHRA prob doesn't wanna budge on the cage etc requirements of +135mph -10.0et

They're using it as a marketing ploy anyway. "It's so fast, you can't even use this drag-focused car for drag racing because it's been banned from drag strips."

[sweetbmxrider]

They're using it as a marketing ploy anyway. "It's so fast, you can't even use this drag-focused car for drag racing because it's been banned from drag strips."

I agree completely. Anyone that wants to race competitively will be caging it etc.

[wretched73]

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17862526_10154524210030835_3796711497069541730_n.j pg?oh=d379ec99976f623ce8b670c52e7185f1&oe=5957E54B

[Blackbirdws6]

^^^ I would go above his head and ask to speak to the President ;)

[sweetbmxrider]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[LS1ow]

Also, from what ive read/fact ive fabricated in my own head, the car wont "drive off the lot" and do 9.65s at 140. You need to opt for the crate which has all the goodies to make it capable of that time, so off the floor im sure itll do deep 10s, but deep 10s you dont need a cage do you? So i guess thats why no cage.

Also, not that the car isnt just launch and go pretty much, but i would guess that time was cut by a professional, not some guy that just wanted more HP than his friends gt500

[LTb1ow]

You want some peanut butter with all that jelli bro?

[LS1ow]

You want some peanut butter with all that jelli bro?

extremely jelly tbh.

I want it in destroyer gray

[sweetbmxrider]

I dono dude, bls and I drove a pair today. Its pretty easy to launch. Pull up to the light, gas to the floor, hold in the upshift, launch on green by letting go of the paddle, hit the 1-2 at 6 grand wheels up, grab that 2-3 as they start coming down around 6300, keep it in the groove for the 3-4 at 6500, and run through the traps on the limiter at 9.70 with a smile on your face. Or go full on fast and furious and barrel roll off of the timer box at the 1000' mark and accept the DNF like a man. Bls can post some vids I'm sure....


Track hawk is awesome :drool: Ain't even detuned brahhhhhhhh

[LS1ow]

I dono dude, bls and I drove a pair today. Its pretty easy to launch. Pull up to the light, gas to the floor, hold in the upshift, launch on green by letting go of the paddle, hit the 1-2 at 6 grand wheels up, grab that 2-3 as they start coming down around 6300, keep it in the groove for the 3-4 at 6500, and run through the traps on the limiter at 9.70 with a smile on your face. Or go full on fast and furious and barrel roll off of the timer box at the 1000' mark and accept the DNF like a man. Bls can post some vids I'm sure....


Track hawk is awesome :drool: Ain't even detuned brahhhhhhhh

You almost had me

[sweetbmxrider]

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w170/bmdeluca/Events/NYIAS%202017/20170413_105333_zpsn91whnxm.jpg

Jelli?

[Blackbirdws6]

Two 0.000 reaction times...in a video game. Should have got a prize!

[LTb1ow]

Did you see a auto zone vato ???

[Blackbirdws6]

Did you see a auto zone vato ???

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