watch out...team rednex is in da house

[EVIL90SS]

alls i have to say is.......u dont need to know anything about it....you'll see for yourself in the summer !! BIOTCHES !!

[NJSPEEDER]

are you plannign this as a bracket car or a heads up car?
good luck with it either way.

later
tim

[EVIL90SS]

both...we shall dominate !

[Little G]

I don't think you'll be able to do both.

[NJSPEEDER]

hehe, do i smell a bet on the hozrizon?

later
tim

[ProtekYoNutz]

:popcorn:

[Squirrel]

:twisted:

[PBodyGT87]

My bet's on team rednex.

[Fasterthanyou]

I'm lost. Is this an inside joke and I'm on the outside? If it's between Craig and Matt then where do I stand if I'm helping both of them? Do I have to pick a side or going back to my first assumption, am I on the outside?

[Squirrel]

I'm lost. Is this an inside joke and I'm on the outside? If it's between Craig and Matt then where do I stand if I'm helping both of them? Do I have to pick a side or going back to my first assumption, am I on the outside?
you=outside :wavey:

[NJSPEEDER]

I'm lost. Is this an inside joke and I'm on the outside? If it's between Craig and Matt then where do I stand if I'm helping both of them? Do I have to pick a side or going back to my first assumption, am I on the outside?

the joke is more about the thought that ty, matt, and phil are gonna try to put together a car on a collective budget of $0.01. they also seem to believe that with no competitive racing experience between the lot fo them they will instantly win first shot out of teh box. :roll:

later
tim

[PBodyGT87]

I'm lost. Is this an inside joke and I'm on the outside? If it's between Craig and Matt then where do I stand if I'm helping both of them? Do I have to pick a side or going back to my first assumption, am I on the outside?

the joke is more about the thought that ty, matt, and phil are gonna try to put together a car on a collective budget of $0.01. they also seem to believe that with no competitive racing experience between the lot fo them they will instantly win first shot out of teh box. :roll:

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tim

aww, well i guess they have about the same chances of winning as your car does while it sits in the driveway, immobile. :twisted:

[Little G]

I'm lost. Is this an inside joke and I'm on the outside? If it's between Craig and Matt then where do I stand if I'm helping both of them? Do I have to pick a side or going back to my first assumption, am I on the outside?

the joke is more about the thought that ty, matt, and phil are gonna try to put together a car on a collective budget of $0.01. they also seem to believe that with no competitive racing experience between the lot fo them they will instantly win first shot out of teh box. :roll:

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tim

aww, well i guess they have about the same chances of winning as your car does while it sits in the driveway, immobile. :twisted:

:owned:

[Mike]

:stupid:

[Fasterthanyou]

So it's nothing but wishful thinking.

[JL8Jeff]

And I thought they were going to race a car built out of beer cans! :burnout:

[foff667]

I'm lost. Is this an inside joke and I'm on the outside? If it's between Craig and Matt then where do I stand if I'm helping both of them? Do I have to pick a side or going back to my first assumption, am I on the outside?

the joke is more about the thought that ty, matt, and phil are gonna try to put together a car on a collective budget of $0.01. they also seem to believe that with no competitive racing experience between the lot fo them they will instantly win first shot out of teh box. :roll:

later
tim

aww, well i guess they have about the same chances of winning as your car does while it sits in the driveway, immobile. :twisted:

:owned:

haha :funny:

[Squirrel]

I'm lost. Is this an inside joke and I'm on the outside? If it's between Craig and Matt then where do I stand if I'm helping both of them? Do I have to pick a side or going back to my first assumption, am I on the outside?

the joke is more about the thought that ty, matt, and phil are gonna try to put together a car on a collective budget of $0.01. they also seem to believe that with no competitive racing experience between the lot fo them they will instantly win first shot out of teh box. :roll:

later
tim

aww, well i guess they have about the same chances of winning as your car does while it sits in the driveway, immobile. :twisted:

:owned:

haha :funny:
:stupid:

[NJSPEEDER]

I'm lost. Is this an inside joke and I'm on the outside? If it's between Craig and Matt then where do I stand if I'm helping both of them? Do I have to pick a side or going back to my first assumption, am I on the outside?

the joke is more about the thought that ty, matt, and phil are gonna try to put together a car on a collective budget of $0.01. they also seem to believe that with no competitive racing experience between the lot fo them they will instantly win first shot out of teh box. :roll:

later
tim

aww, well i guess they have about the same chances of winning as your car does while it sits in the driveway, immobile. :twisted:

why you gotta be all hurtful? lol

later
tim

[EVIL90SS]

this car is more than wishfull thinkin, we basically have the car, a few phone calls were made for our motor, we got prices on things we need for the swap, i have the wheels, tires, paint, and the ambition, this is gana be fun. just need to find a **** trans and a 1/2 decent rear, that shouldnt be hard to find, junkyard racer. TEAM REDNEX !

[ProtekYoNutz]

I'm lost. Is this an inside joke and I'm on the outside? If it's between Craig and Matt then where do I stand if I'm helping both of them? Do I have to pick a side or going back to my first assumption, am I on the outside?

the joke is more about the thought that ty, matt, and phil are gonna try to put together a car on a collective budget of $0.01. they also seem to believe that with no competitive racing experience between the lot fo them they will instantly win first shot out of teh box. :roll:

later
tim

aww, well i guess they have about the same chances of winning as your car does while it sits in the driveway, immobile. :twisted:

why you gotta be all hurtful? lol

later
tim

hey the truth hurts :shrug:

[ar0ck]

a 1/2 decent rear, that shouldnt be hard to find, junkyard racer. Â*TEAM REDNEX !

Spider-Weld!

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

I'm lost. Is this an inside joke and I'm on the outside? If it's between Craig and Matt then where do I stand if I'm helping both of them? Do I have to pick a side or going back to my first assumption, am I on the outside?

you can help craig our engine is gonna run off of three wires

[PBodyGT87]

Allow me to translate.

What they do not understand is why certain rules are brought up for this event, namely, the insurance and registration required to race, as well as the need for full carpet and a passenger seat. The three of the guys are not concearned about passing tech inspection, they will stick to the requirements for that, but why can't they put a car together, trailer it on down to island, and run it, just as everyone else on Islands saturday and sunday runs and test and tunes can? Why does it have to be different this time?

My point:
I understand that rules are rules, and that's all fine and good. Now i am making a suggestion: Why can't there be a separate class for those of us on the boards, with an F body, who do not have a full carpet or passenger seat? It would be so simple. Why do I ask? Because people like, say for instance, Craig, can't race without his passenger seat now. And well hell, that blows. So if he puts it back in? Fine, but now he just added more weight, and thus a slower time. After all, you guys are freaks about weight reduction, aren't you? (no offense intended)

All they are asking for is a separate class. I understand that these rules are made so that more people can run, but in reality, when a lot of the guys have taken out passenger seats and carpets, well, that just kind of cuts down on the pariticipants, doesn't it a bit?

This is not a ******** post, this is striaght forward. Problem, suggestion, and example to back it up. Do you need more? Or am I not clear enough?

[Fasterthanyou]

Rules do 2 things. They keep things competive and they keep everybody safe. Having a car that runs on 3 wires with junkyard parts seems a tad more dangerous than a street legal car missing carpet and a passenger seat. Or am I missing something here? What is the competition we're talking about here and where are the rules because right now I'm scratching my head trying to understand.

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

Rules do 2 things. They keep things competive and they keep everybody safe. Having a car that runs on 3 wires with junkyard parts seems a tad more dangerous than a street legal car missing carpet and a passenger seat. Or am I missing something here? What is the competition we're talking about here and where are the rules because right now I'm scratching my head trying to understand.

look at my trucck it runs on three wires whats wrong with that
its not like it gonna be held together by two by fours

[NJSPEEDER]

liz, i don't know how to get it through to phil, matt, or ty that this isn't a test adn tune. these are competitive classes. to have competiton and keep it fair to all involved you need rules.
if they are interested in diving into competition and makign anything worth whiel happen they really need to look further into competition than jsut saying they want to be in one.

later
tim

[EVIL90SS]

well...we have a mids 80s 2.8l third gen camaro, pontiac 350, with nice heads, and a turbo 350 trans w/ shift kit, gallon of orange centari paint, cragar ss/t wheels, and a load of ambition....f-body nats..here we come. its a 70s poncho motor, aluminum intake, and a CARBURETOR !

[Tru2Chevy]

a mids 80s 2.8l third gen camaro, pontiac 350

:cry: another bastard is born....

- Justin

[BigAls87Z28]

Only this time...its the other way around.

[NJSPEEDER]

third gen camaro, pontiac 350

this is the first time i have seen a car go bastard that way. it is almost always replacign teh drivetrain in a real pontiac with a chevy motor, not the other way around.
congrats matt, you are original and weird. lol
poncho motors have great low end power, shoudl be fun to watch this thing come off teh line :)

later
tim

[Tru2Chevy]

poncho motors have great low end power, shoudl be fun to watch this thing come off teh line :)

later
tim

Think he'll toss the hoosiers on the SS/T's? They guys could give a demonstration on how to shatter a 10-bolt :D

- Justin

[NJSPEEDER]

hmm, maybe a $50 set of junkyard 3.73's can add to the fun as well :D
why bother setting lash, on the third launch it will just set itself. lol

later
tim

[camaro2you]

nice

[EVIL90SS]

well bad news....we might need to look for another car right now...robs dick boss dosnt wanna sell the car without a title....were workin on it though...anone have a camaro or firebird with no motor or trans in just ok shape they wanna sell for real cheap ???

[NJSPEEDER]

napolean(sp?) doesn't have anything laying around?

i will keep an eye out for you. i may know of a car, but most rollers go for a good bit more than the $50 you were gonna pay. expect 200-400 to be more common pricing.

wanna take a cruise to teh yards in the monring? maybe they have something there that will fit the bill

later
tim

[EVIL90SS]

im down for junkyardin it...me and phil gata pick up the motor first though

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

well i pulled a muscle in my shoulder real bad so im not gonna do any heavy lifting but i wanna get the motor early and head right to the yard i guess, go scope some things out i found a car but its beet up and needs to many things like a hatch and i think a front sub frame but its free oh yea tim it has a factory fiberglass hood

i can get the back lash and run out close enough to what is supposed to be thats no problem i just need to find my dial indicator and a work bench to do it on. but the blazers came with 3:73 10 bolts in them if its not a posi ill make it one. "linclon locker" lincoln arc weld the spyders together

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

poncho motors have great low end power, shoudl be fun to watch this thing come off teh line :)

later
tim

Think he'll toss the hoosiers on the SS/T's? Â*They guys could give a demonstration on how to shatter a 10-bolt Â*:D

- Justin

the tranny we picked up for it has the grunt to do it, with a 3500 stall converter he has for it. that thing is gonna be all about the launch

[Fasterthanyou]

Sounds like things are actually rolling together into something tangible.
What extension housing do you have on the th350? If you want to use a stock 3rd gen driveshaft you'll need to use the 9". If you have access to a driveshaft shop then ignore me :) .
Just curious, why the poncho motor? You could sell it and do a homebrew junkyard wars style 350... then the trans wouldn't bolt up, hmm... nevermind, I'm just interested so keep the updates coming.

[EVIL90SS]

hmmm...why the poncho motor..the idea behind that is ..dare to be different..i do have the adapter plate to put a chevy trans on a pontiac block but i got the good tranny with it so i couldnt complain

[Fasterthanyou]

hmmm...why the poncho motor..the idea behind that is ..dare to be different..i do have the adapter plate to put a chevy trans on a pontiac block but i got the good tranny with it so i couldnt complain
So why not get a used cheap gutted Firebird instead of a camaro :) . Then you won't be a bastard, you'd just be making a statement :P . Not that it really matters but I can honestly say I haven't seen a thirdgen firebird with a poncho motor!

[Little G]

camaros are lighter

[BigAls87Z28]

Always thought third gen fbirds are lighter, but you will have more hood clearance with the Camaro.
Gotta find that 1982 Iron Duke, 4spd manual, no options Camaro out in the world...

[EVIL90SS]

i like the bastard idea with the camaro.

[NJSPEEDER]

Always thought third gen fbirds are lighter, but you will have more hood clearance with the Camaro. Â*
Gotta find that 1982 Iron Duke, 4spd manual, no options Camaro out in the world...

i know where there are 2 birds that meet that basic description. :)
actually a later car woudl be better. gm switched to thinner floor steel and some point adn started using more glue and less panel overlap = lighter car :)

later
tim

[Fasterthanyou]

Always thought third gen fbirds are lighter, but you will have more hood clearance with the Camaro.
Gotta find that 1982 Iron Duke, 4spd manual, no options Camaro out in the world...

i know where there are 2 birds that meet that basic description. :)
actually a later car woudl be better. gm switched to thinner floor steel and some point adn started using more glue and less panel overlap = lighter car :)

later
tim
Yeah, my car is one of the quietest thirdgens as far as rattles but the floor pan is rotting out. I also added a stereo and the car's weight was only 3550 with me, that was with a/c and beefy suspension upgrades. The only weight reduction I had done to my car at the time was a hollow sway bar up front. Everything else I did added weight. Now's a different story.
Anyways, I'd still go for an earlier thirdgen because it'll be closer to the 25yr "classic". I've always seen a thirdgens in the j-yards when I've gone. I need to make a trip again to see the new stock. 2 years ago I found an awesome roller thirdgen. It was a firebird with 6-point cage and a Ford 12-bolt minus carrier but had axles and c-clip eliminators all intact. If I had room for it I'd have bought it, oh well.
How much are you guys looking to spend on the roller car? And do you need a clean title or is a salvage yard title cool? Do you even need a title if it's a track only car?

[EVIL90SS]

i would like to have a clean title..cause if this **** box turns out good...me and phil will beat it on the street too and tim...i dont give to ****s about weight....u know this

[NJSPEEDER]

all i say is to drop it off over here for a few days and when you pick it up you will have a much faster car. :D
i may have teh inside line on some 3.73's for ya if yer interested. that will help teh car a lot :)

later
tim

[PBodyGT87]

all i say is to drop it off over here for a few days and when you pick it up you will have a much faster car. :D
i may have teh inside line on some 3.73's for ya if yer interested. that will help teh car a lot :)

later
tim

work on your car first.

[DieselKickYoAss4Sure]

the car shall be light fast and ugly and prevost you worry to much about things that are so simple to solve ill move the motor to were the driveshft length fits if its to long or to short most likely it will be moving the motor and trans back some witch is better anyway dont just lay back read you computer screen and watch the magic of a welder and a sawzaw happen oh yea and a really big hammer i may throw a few wrenches in there somewere along the line :cheers: :drive:

[PBodyGT87]

the car shall be light fast and ugly and prevost you worry to much about things that are so simple to solve ill move the motor to were the driveshft length fits if its to long or to short Â*most likely it will be moving the motor and trans back some witch is better anyway dont Â*just lay back read you computer screen and watch the magic of a welder and a sawzaw happen oh yea and a really big hammer i may throw a few wrenches Â*in there Â*somewere along the line Â*:cheers: Â*:drive:

phil, please use some commas.

[foff667]

the car shall be light fast and ugly and prevost you worry to much about things that are so simple to solve ill move the motor to were the driveshft length fits if its to long or to short Â*most likely it will be moving the motor and trans back some witch is better anyway dont Â*just lay back read you computer screen and watch the magic of a welder and a sawzaw happen oh yea and a really big hammer i may throw a few wrenches Â*in there Â*somewere along the line Â*:cheers: Â*:drive:

phil, please use some commas.

see this even blood asks you for a little help lol your giving us headaches :) we still love ya though bud hehe

[NJSPEEDER]

phil, what do you think you are putting this motor into? there is little/no space to move a motor with a rear mounted distributor back in a 3rd gen. even if there was, you are talking about having to cover a distance of prolly 3 or 4 inches, that is a lot of land to cover in any car.

later
tim

[PBodyGT87]

phil, what do you think you are putting this motor into? there is little/no space to move a motor with a rear mounted distributor back in a 3rd gen. even if there was, you are talking about having to cover a distance of prolly 3 or 4 inches, that is a lot of land to cover in any car.

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tim

yeah, you're also talking to a kid who put an 11 liter diesel in a chevy silverado. Nothing is impossible.

[PBodyGT87]

Silly Tim, tricks are for kids!

[NJSPEEDER]

it isn't impossible, but he would be adding two tons of work and a bunch of safety equipoment to teh car. to move teh motor back you would have to cuyt the fire wall and modify it extensively. teh second he cuts teh firewall the car will be required to have a roll bar, 5pt harnesses, and a fire jacket according to nhra rules.
basically teh easy and safer way to do things is to put an hour into ordering a driveshaft instead of two weeks into modding teh car and shopping for safety equipment.

later
tim

[Fasterthanyou]

the car shall be light fast and ugly and prevost you worry to much about things that are so simple to solve ill move the motor to were the driveshft length fits if its to long or to short most likely it will be moving the motor and trans back some witch is better anyway dont just lay back read you computer screen and watch the magic of a welder and a sawzaw happen oh yea and a really big hammer i may throw a few wrenches in there somewere along the line :cheers: :drive:
That was WAY more complicated than just paying the $20 for the correct length tail shaft extension ;) .
Liz, truck = lots of room, fiero = no room, thirdgen = no room between engine and firewall. Plenty of room width wise and infront of the motor but I'll be damned if you can move the engine 3 inchs towards the firewall. I've got a picture of me using a standard wrench SITTING on my old engine unbolting it from the trans. Tim remembers, it's a tight fit back there! Now the redneck in me would expect somebody else here to say "**** it, we'll move dat dear rear forward and bang the tire well a little... ah **** dat too, let's just rake her race car style like." :lol: :wink: BTW, I think I found my old 86 SC that you could have for $50. The kid I sold it too drove it for a couple years and it's been sitting at his place with no plans. He wants to get rid of it, let me know if you need me to look into it further.

[EVIL90SS]

dude...tell me about the car and , well, call the kid and see when we can get it...if its not destroyed or all junked up. and aside of that...whos worried about the distributer when were running a flux capacitor ignition