Question about GM and recall, didn't want to make a new thread because this was already all over the place but did GM end up recalling those early camaro's with wheel weights on the side of brake calipers? Or do customers get stuck with the ugly calipers?

Yea I corrected it, but yea normal people don't even look at that thing. Plus if you inflate your 16's,17's,18's or w/e to 30-35 psi **** is not gonna explode...

i believe they were going to do a tsb once they got enough dealer stock in to change them over. i don't think it was going to be a recall because it was an aesthetic thing rather than a brakes not working thing... but, i don't KNOW this i am just trying to remember

I just read where State Farm told Toyota and the NHTSA about this problem in 2007. Nice.


I remember when BMW recalled the original 540s (mid 90s) because the air intake went down to the bottom of the car and hitting a puddle would lead to hydrolock! lol

Yeah, I think once Brembo starts making more calipers, we will see a TSB on them, not a recall.

I'm glad I didn't own that car :lol:

The BMW dealer where we got parts from had 3 wasted engines sitting on the floor one day. :)

Pff, at least they didn't catch on fire..

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2626/...5e53e5c2_m.jpg

It looked brand spanking new from behind.

Also last time I went to a BMW dealer I saw this. Lug nuts were scattered around the area... Pretty sure this wasn't done by the dealer.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2466/...227a33b8_m.jpg

If thats a 335i...I want the engine!

From what I saw it was a big clumpy mess, everything under the hood was melted. We were told the owner of that was going through litigation with the dealer or bmw, and they were just storing it there. From what I remember, high pressure fuel line somehow disconnected and well that started a fiery blaze. This was back in July, so my memory might be slightly off.

Found under the hood picture.

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The plastic locks int he freshness....

Such a shame...I love the 3 series coupe.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...o&mod=yahoo_hs

The heart of Toyota's problem: Its secretive corporate culture in Japan clashed with U.S. requirements that auto makers disclose safety threats, people familiar with the matter say. The relationship soured even though Toyota had hired two former NHTSA officials to manage its ties with the agency.

Toyota's troubles spread Tuesday when it recalled all Priuses to address a braking problem, even as executives suggested the step was unnecessary.

Toyota acknowledges the rift with regulators. "Believe me, we have changed our mind-set," said Shinichi Sasaki, Toyota's quality chief, referring to a heated December confrontation in Tokyo with NHTSA officials over floor mats. "We don't believe this is going to be a problem in the future. We are completely on the same page with NHTSA."

Toyota's woes have roots in 2002's redesigned Camry sedan, which featured a new type of gas pedal. Instead of physically connecting to the engine with a mechanical cable, the new pedal used electronic sensors to send signals to a computer controlling the engine. The same technology migrated to cars including Toyota's luxury Lexus ES sedan. The main advantage is fuel efficiency.

So someone is trying to blame drive by wire?

that system is the problem. they way they designed their pedal and software. all this could still be electrical interference and not the pedal. they software fix where brake pedal input overrides gas pedal input is standard on most cars but not theirs - they are adding it from what I've read.

I have not heard a wholesale fingerpointing at DBW across the board. That would impact every automaker.

Finger pointing you mean.

I have never had a problem with drive by wire. Or steer by wire.

i have seen a few, nothing serious like this though. all cars have issues though, this is just one that kills people.

LOL@Bonzo

That guy is, er, was the man.

i have :-?

Die toyota die!!!!

My 2005 Camry has the DBW, and I have a noticable lag in response that I don't recall having in other mechanical systems that I've had in past cars.

Then again it could just be the 4 cyl vs. the 6's and 8's I've had. This is my first 4cyl. The delayed response to pedal pressure drives me crazy. Having said that though, I haven't had a major problem with my Camry.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...4/#post1980635

Hits keep on comin'

Anyone have anything new on the Toyota debacle?