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LS1Hawk 02-17-2010 08:47 AM

I also heard on the news this morning that Toyoda of Toyota is not going to speak at the Congressional hearings.

Tsar 02-17-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LS1Hawk (Post 682297)
I also heard on the news this morning that Toyoda of Toyota is not going to speak at the Congressional hearings.

Why would a retired 96 year old executive of an alien corporation speak in front of Congress?

BonzoHansen 02-17-2010 08:56 AM

I think that means the current guy in charge.

Tsar 02-17-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 682299)
I think that means the current guy in charge.

Fujio Cho.

Why would a CEO of an alien corporation speak in front of American Congress?

As a side note, does he speak English?

BonzoHansen 02-17-2010 09:05 AM

News I heard today was they wanted Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda. And he does speak English. Plus they do have interpreters now. Don’t really know why other than to do what congress does best at hearings. Go congressional tough guy.

Tsar 02-17-2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 682301)
News I heard today was they wanted Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda. And he does speak English. Plus they do have interpreters now. Don’t really know why other than to do what congress does best at hearings. Go congressional tough guy.

Did they forget that Japan wasn't in America?

LS1Hawk 02-17-2010 09:57 AM

Yes, Akio Toyoda was the one I was referring to.

sweetbmxrider 02-17-2010 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsar (Post 682302)
Did they forget that Japan wasn't in America?

are you retarded? cause something isn't branded made in america means we have to bend over and take it? seriously, you are something special.

WildBillyT 02-17-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 682314)
are you retarded? cause something isn't branded made in america means we have to bend over and take it? seriously, you are something special.

I took it as him saying that a Japanese company is not bound to listen to blowhard American politicians since they are not American. Gee, there's that pesky "doesn't matter that they build in the USA they are still Japanese" thing again. I find it kind of funny that Congress is all upset about possible cover-ups, etc. That type of thing is standard operating procedure in Asia.

sweetbmxrider 02-17-2010 10:44 AM

alls i know is there are dead people and no answers. ****ed up.

BurninrubberGT 02-17-2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by maroman88 (Post 682276)
just saw on the news that they may be recalling the corolla as well for a power steering issue

ya I saw that, they just keep digging the hole deeper and deeper..

so your throttle sticks, you hit the brakes but they are also defective, so you go to steer and it doesnt respond...great job toyota

the best part is the vibe, which was recalled, can easily be stopped at WOT with gm's brake systems

Tsar 02-17-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 682314)
are you retarded? cause something isn't branded made in america means we have to bend over and take it? seriously, you are something special.

American laws do not go past American borders, it's as simple as that. Other countries do not care about what Congress wants to ask, and who they want to question. Seems like you're the retarded one.

What's next, Congress is gonna summon Russian president and ask him about Human rights violations in Chechnya?


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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 682324)
I took it as him saying that a Japanese company is not bound to listen to blowhard American politicians since they are not American. Gee, there's that pesky "doesn't matter that they build in the USA they are still Japanese" thing again. I find it kind of funny that Congress is all upset about possible cover-ups, etc. That type of thing is standard operating procedure in Asia.

Exactly, they are not.

Frosty 02-17-2010 11:24 AM

I read that he would appear if requested by Congress but as of right now the US execs are handling it, which is appropriate. Their stock is tanking worse than Enron(ok, slight exaggeration).

There is no Toyoda, there is only Zuuuul(Family Guy reference)

Tsar 02-17-2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 682336)
I read that he would appear if requested by Congress but as of right now the US execs are handling it, which is appropriate. Their stock is tanking worse than Enron(ok, slight exaggeration).

There is no Toyoda, there is only Zuuuul(Family Guy reference)

If he volunteers, that's one thing, but he is not obligated to do anything for the Congress.

Plus there's no point in it anyways, what is congress gonna do? And it's not like if he "lies" anything will be done about it, after all he will be back in Japan as soon as he is done.

Frosty 02-17-2010 11:29 AM

Oh I completely agree. It's a catch 22 for him...not going may look shady...going won't accomplish anything in front of Congress.

BonzoHansen 02-17-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsar (Post 682333)
American laws do not go past American borders, it's as simple as that. Other countries do not care about what Congress wants to ask, and who they want to question. Seems like you're the retarded one.

What's next, Congress is gonna summon Russian president and ask him about Human rights violations in Chechnya?



Exactly, they are not.

It does not mean they cannot ask. I can ask you to go jump off a bridge. But it does not mean you have to. I agree he really has no reason to.

And your Russian example is not analogous; this is about a company doing business in a highly regulated market within the US borders.

WildBillyT 02-17-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 682336)
I read that he would appear if requested by Congress but as of right now the US execs are handling it, which is appropriate. Their stock is tanking worse than Enron(ok, slight exaggeration).

There is no Toyoda, there is only Zuuuul(Family Guy reference)


FAIL. Family Guy?

Frosty 02-17-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 682340)
FAIL. Family Guy?

Yeeeeessssss, Pete a reference in one episode.(can't remember the movie/show he was referencing though)

BTW, when I want your opinion I'll give it to you, k?

:mrgreen::moon:

WildBillyT 02-17-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsar (Post 682337)
If he volunteers, that's one thing, but he is not obligated to do anything for the Congress.

Plus there's no point in it anyways, what is congress gonna do? And it's not like if he "lies" anything will be done about it, after all he will be back in Japan as soon as he is done.

Absolutely. Asian companies don't operate like US ones with all of our associated BS or even a similar code of ethics. Theirs is considered much worse compared to ours (by the Europeans).


So, who's going to rent Gung-Ho tonight? LOL.

Tsar 02-17-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 682339)

And your Russian example is not analogous; this is about a company doing business in a highly regulated market within the US borders.

My example was referring to asking a citizen of another country to be questioned in front of Congress in order to "get to the bottom" of the "truth", or w/e they want to call it.

Did EU question Bill Gates about "his" monopoly? I'm pretty sure they made the reps get out the anal lube, but Bill Gates.

Congress can fine or w/e they wanna do to Toyota as a company that does business on their soil. However, CEO and Toyota are not the same entity, neither is the CEO obligated to do squat for the Congress. I don't see what's so difficult to understand.

WildBillyT 02-17-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 682342)
Yeeeeessssss, Pete a reference in one episode.(can't remember the movie/show he was referencing though)

BTW, when I want your opinion I'll give it to you, k?

:mrgreen::moon:

Sorry, I was under the impression that you had seen Ghostbusters.

Frosty 02-17-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 682346)
Sorry, I was under the impression that you had seen Ghostbusters.

AH! That's it! I couldn't remember what movie he was referencing, yes I've seen the movies...just having a brain fart so I referenced Family Guy instead.

sweetbmxrider 02-17-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsar (Post 682333)
American laws do not go past American borders, it's as simple as that. Other countries do not care about what Congress wants to ask, and who they want to question. Seems like you're the retarded one.

What's next, Congress is gonna summon Russian president and ask him about Human rights violations in Chechnya?

so the plants that toyota owns on american soil are now part of japan? really?

BigAls87Z28 02-17-2010 11:52 AM

Then he hangs with his company. I think that it shows arrogance.
They have been playing up the Americanness of it all, but if they are gunna put that guy they have been throwing in every morning talk show for the past month, in front of congress, I hope he gets the same thrashing that the Big 3 got.
I want to hear "why cant you make quality cars like the Domestics?"
I also would love to hear from Sen.Shelby on the matter.

BonzoHansen 02-17-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar (Post 682345)
My example was referring to asking a citizen of another country to be questioned in front of Congress in order to "get to the bottom" of the "truth", or w/e they want to call it.

Did EU question Bill Gates about "his" monopoly? I'm pretty sure they made the reps get out the anal lube, but Bill Gates.

Congress can fine or w/e they wanna do to Toyota as a company that does business on their soil. However, CEO and Toyota are not the same entity, neither is the CEO obligated to do squat for the Congress. I don't see what's so difficult to understand.

So you are saying congress has zero right to even ask, regardless of the situation? And if the CEO was here in the states does that change the answer?

And CEO and company are the same entity to a degree.


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