No, but it means less for Toyota.
Hyundai yes, Nissan no. They rode the coat tails of Honda and Toyota into the world of "quality" but they lack it by a good margin.

Well they haven't had any major recalls like Toyota and Hon-duh which is why I named them.

Agreed, but I dont think that toyota people are nissan people.
Hyundai and Honda sure. Maybe Buick could gain some people. Chevy maybe some.

buicks problem is that they have no repeat customers, seeing as how its the last car you buy before you die

Thousands of comedians are out of a job, and here you are trying to be one.

:popcorn:

ok mr. im gonna buy a new camaro but got an impalibu instead.
time to get back to the gm nut swinging and psuedo gm publicist fanboying

That's a big word....

:rofl:

**** happens, priorites change, and dealers were in the middle of a rapefest with the price of the car.

One of my professors just said "TQM, Toyota Quality Management, is more like Toyota Quagmire Management" :lol:

More **** for Toyota's fan:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/document...l-in-2007.html

Giggity

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_as...0/quagmire.jpg

Here is some more about it.

http://autos.aol.com/article/toyota-...nts-subpoenaed

patience is a virtue.





Back on topic, Toyota will survive, Hyundai will prosper.

Dear Toyota, lives are at risk, so just get that **** fixed. Kthxbai.

http://thevirtuousrepublic.com/?p=5341

Toyota will survive, but they will get thier lashings and they will never be the same.

Which is ok with me, they needed to be brought down a notch or two

House panel determines Toyota misled public:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/house-pa...ed-public.html

Ten best cars were named, guess what? :lol: Toyota is number 1!

Clicky

In before some of you blow a gasket :lol:

Consumer Reports :rofl::rofl:

That's what "average" people read. Didn't someone tell me that's what matters most?

Yup. It does matter a lot. I'd love to see their criteria algorithm, though. I cannot think of an example but they rated a few cars/trucks as "good buys" in the past that were panned by the auto magazines. Same deal with some of their other products- Behr paint comes to mind.

Dunno their algorithm, I just know that old people read them and then tell me what car is good or bad :lol:

My mom read a consumer report about her car, SRX, and it said it was the worst thing in the world since Osama Bin Laden, and will no doubt break, explode and kill her children. She was terrified and said she would never would have purchased the car is she read it before hand. I asked her if anything consumer report said happened and she said no. I told her to chuck that piece of garbage, and not to listen to idiots (someone also told her that there are 51 states... so she asked me).

LOL. My mom also has an SRX, and she loves the thing. I'll let you know when it transforms into a Decipticon and starts shooting up preschools.

They also gave the LS1 engine a big black circle in every application it was ever in, saying it got bad mileage. Meanwhile, it made more power and got better mileage that some of the import sixes that got red circles. Go figure.

A lot of the stuff they write about regular products is pretty good, I'm not going to deny that. They just have some real misses where it almost looks like they are taking bribes. The paint thing pisses me off. I helped friends paint every room in 3 houses with Behr paint. EVERY time it sucked. Especially the ceiling paint. I warned against using it after the experience with the first house but to no avail. We had different crews of people each time. I use Sherwin-Williams now and it's a LOT better, but it got a "meh" white circle.