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FlyingDutchman 03-03-2010 08:07 PM

Complaints coming up after the accelerator has been "fixed" ...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Govt-s...01762.html?x=0

yahoo!!

Bcozzi71 03-04-2010 09:41 AM

people will still buy them though..it so dumb. My gf's dad tells me all the time i need to get a more sensible car besides a truck/jeep/camaro. I need a nice import thats safe and reliable....

Frosty 03-04-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 97camaro (Post 686484)
Complaints coming up after the accelerator has been "fixed" ...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Govt-s...01762.html?x=0

yahoo!!

Watching a video on that now. Real classy...go Toyota :rolleyes:

maroman88 03-04-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bcozzi71 (Post 686637)
people will still buy them though..it so dumb. My gf's dad tells me all the time i need to get a more sensible car besides a truck/jeep/camaro. I need a nice import thats safe and reliable....

tell him sure... as soon as u feel like buying me one!

LTb1ow 03-05-2010 09:31 AM

So whats the deal with the "black box" stuff?

Did they get anything on that yet?

Mark B 03-08-2010 07:59 PM

Another runaway Toyota...
 
http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local/...JTifTsxfQ.cspx

Just reported in California. Looks like this isnt ending anytime soon.




P.S. I didnt know Prius's could go 90mph. haha

fmybody 03-08-2010 08:08 PM

wow now thats gotta be scary... cant shut down and cant go into neutral... FAIL. luckily noone was hurt

LS1Hawk 03-09-2010 06:34 AM

Saturday night I was out with my girlfriend. We were coming down the Hamburg Tpke in Wayne going towards Pompton Lakes. We see about 5 cop cars and an ambulance up ahead. We were expecting to see a multiple car accident. Turns out it's a Toyota Camry that went up the curb and crashed head on into a road sign. Haven't heard any reports on it, but you never know.

V 03-09-2010 07:23 AM

honestly, if i had a toyota, i would splice into the TB power wire and run a relay setup to create a kill switch/circuit that would cut power to the electric throttle body at the push of a dash mounted button. So if something happened, I could be able to close the TB and still have the engine running as to be able to steer... lol

Knipps 03-09-2010 07:57 AM

but then they'd claim you'd voided their warranty :lol:

HeadlessNorseman 03-09-2010 09:14 AM

Stupid toyotas...
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_runaway_prius

Is this article saying that the more or less 85hp prius has so much power that it cant slow from 94mph with the brakes fully depressed while going uphill? I find that really hard to believe. It sounds like this guy is just trying to get some money out of them.

"After the car decelerated to about 50 mph, Sikes turned off the engine and coasted to a halt."

not at 94 though? I just dont get it...

SteveR 03-09-2010 09:25 AM

The CHP officer told him to push down on the brakes and the e-brake as hard as he could, and this was while they were going up hill. Once the car got down to 55mph, he turned the car off and the CHP officer moved his car in front of the Prius. And brakes aren't really designed to stop a rotating wheel at WOT.

BurninrubberGT 03-09-2010 09:45 AM

now they are saying all the class action suits could cost toyota upwards of 3 billion

sweetbmxrider 03-09-2010 09:47 AM

yeah brakes get hot and fade

BurninrubberGT 03-09-2010 10:26 AM

the vibe brakes can stop the car at WOT, according to gm

LTb1ow 03-09-2010 10:31 AM

Silly toyotas.

Tsar 03-09-2010 11:45 AM

Oh the funny...

"How ABC News' Brian Ross Staged His Toyota Death Ride"
http://gawker.com/5486666/how-abc-ne...ota-death-ride

LTb1ow 03-09-2010 12:29 PM

"One of the things that makes it look scary is that when the acceleration occurs, Ross' piece cuts to a close-up shot of the Toyota's tachometer spiking up to 6,000 RPMs in the course of a second—the whole car is outfitted with cameras, and it looks like they planted one right on top of the dashboard to record the RPMs. Wow! That's fast."

LOL toyotas aren't fast... sillies...

Tsar 03-09-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LTs1ow (Post 687869)
"One of the things that makes it look scary is that when the acceleration occurs, Ross' piece cuts to a close-up shot of the Toyota's tachometer spiking up to 6,000 RPMs in the course of a second—the whole car is outfitted with cameras, and it looks like they planted one right on top of the dashboard to record the RPMs. Wow! That's fast."

LOL toyotas aren't fast... sillies...

When tach goes from 1k to 6k RPM in 1 SECOND, that's fast! :lol: Were they using one of those fancy 11ty billion horsepower supras?

WildBillyT 03-09-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar (Post 687894)
When tach goes from 1k to 6k RPM in 1 SECOND, that's fast! :lol: Were they using one of those fancy 11ty billion horsepower supras?

Yup. And it also only runs 11's in the quarter.

qwikz28 03-09-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar (Post 687894)
When tach goes from 1k to 6k RPM in 1 SECOND, that's fast! :lol: Were they using one of those fancy 11ty billion horsepower supras?

that doesn't really prove that the video was fake. But Toyota (and common sense) did prove that the guy's experiment was stupid. I am willing to bet any DBW car would have done the same thing.

I'm not sure if that Prius guy last night was faking it, but I'm sure much of it (if he wasn't faking) had to do with him not standing completely on the brakes and then they faded or pumping on them and losing vacuum.

Tsar 03-09-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 687912)
that doesn't really prove that the video was fake. But Toyota (and common sense) did prove that the guy's experiment was stupid. I am willing to bet any DBW car would have done the same thing.

How about this?

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ABC News spokesman Jeffrey Schneider confirmed to Gawker that the tachometer shot was indeed taken from the parked car and spliced into Ross' death ride
If they faked one thing, how many other things could they have possibly fake. The only reason someone admitted something is because they got caught manufacturing evidence.

WildBillyT 03-09-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 687912)
that doesn't really prove that the video was fake. But Toyota (and common sense) did prove that the guy's experiment was stupid. I am willing to bet any DBW car would have done the same thing.

I'm not sure if that Prius guy last night was faking it, but I'm sure much of it (if he wasn't faking) had to do with him not standing completely on the brakes and then they faded or pumping on them and losing vacuum.

It certainly proves that the video was doctored heavily.

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I'm a physicist, can I chime in? if he was going 20mph, he was certainly not in first gear- likely second (benefit of the doubt here for not being in third). Auto transmission=2.047 gear ratio, 3.815 final drive ratio (again, benefit of doubt), tire circumfrence 26.2in. 20mph in second=2130 rpm (vid showed 1000, but close 'nuff). Final RPM=6000 (went to 6500, but I'm REALLY taking it easy on him). MPH @ 6000=59.9. So..... this car can do 20MPH to 60MPH in 0.7 seconds in SECOND gear!!!!! I want one!!!! The RPM sweep would ACTUALLY take much longer (7-8+sec?). Anyone who owns an automatic one care to comment?
Seems to make sense to me. Selectively showing data and clips in a fashion that implies they point you are trying to prove is just as bad as making up evidence IMO.

qwikz28 03-09-2010 03:08 PM

they conceded to the fact that the tach shot was done from a stop for safety, and filming reasons. Not saying it isn't fake, just that the tach shot doesn't prove the rest of it is.

As for the credibility, that I wouldn't be surprised with. Not much else is happening in the media these days :lol:

SteveR 03-09-2010 03:18 PM

The physicist thing doesnt make all that much sense to me. He's forgetting about how the transmission works. If the transmission shifts off vacuum, and the car was moving up an incline, and you suddenly put your foot to the floor, you can definitely get the car to shift at or close to redline in whatever gear you're in before it up shifts. And where was he getting those numbers from for the transmission gear ratio and final drive ratio? Benefit of the doubt? That makes NO sense.


yea. That doesnt make sense to me. If that dudes a physicist, then me being able to push a slinky down stairs makes me Albert frikkin Einstein.


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