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BigRocsFirebird 10-19-2010 04:01 PM

Finish it, I want to see this!

BigAls87Z28 10-19-2010 08:30 PM

Welp we put my PCM into Kirks car and it ran better then his current tune. We swapped coil packs and still nothing. Im out of guesses. Its got to be the harness.

transmaro93 10-19-2010 08:33 PM

sorry pal i dont feel like reading through all the posts... whats your exact spark problem.. your getting fuel pulse but just no spark? no spark at every cyl.. might sound dumb but im not sure how the harness was made have you double checked for and loose grounds..?

BigAls87Z28 10-19-2010 08:42 PM

Grounds checked
There are 3 grounds. Harness grounds to the back of the pass head. Then there is the 4ga wire that grounds the block on the pass side to the frame.
Then there is the stock LS1 copper strap that is grounded to the K member on the driver side.
All three were checked with a test light.
We are getting power TO the coils. That was checked.
Injectors are firing, you can smell the fuel in the exhaust and on the plugs.
Fuel pressure is 50psi+

Adam and Matt brought up that the ECM might need to be grounded? But I dont see that in the instructions or ever heard of the ECM needing to be grounded. But then nothing would work if it indeed needed to be grounded.

Im lost.

transmaro93 10-19-2010 08:52 PM

your getting power to the coils.. just no spark?did you test for spark direct off the coil?

BigAls87Z28 10-19-2010 08:54 PM

correct. We put Kirk's coil pack on my car, plugged it in, and checked for spark...nothing.

transmaro93 10-19-2010 08:56 PM

what tells the PCM to trigger the spark on ls1's... crank sensor?

V 10-19-2010 08:56 PM

if i was around NJ, id bring my voltmeter by and diagnose it for you... :-/

BigAls87Z28 10-19-2010 09:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD_P3hUIlXg

There is the vid.

BigAls87Z28 10-19-2010 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by transmaro93 (Post 732880)
what tells the PCM to trigger the spark on ls1's... crank sensor?

Yes, and I replaced that last night.

qwikz28 10-19-2010 09:35 PM

Al, just did some searching. Check this wire, the guy claims its a common error.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conver...can-think.html

BigAls87Z28 10-19-2010 09:46 PM

Very plausable. Thats the second thread Ive seen with that very same problem.
The harnes only came with 2 power wires, 1 pink for 12v switched, and 1 orange for contsant 12v.

PolarBear 10-19-2010 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 732892)
The harnes only came with 2 power wires, 1 pink for 12v switched, and 1 orange for contsant 12v.

What did you connect them to?
I actually had a similar problem with my 73 Camaro when I got it. The wire the distributor was connected to was not hot during crank, may not the same but similar

qwikz28 10-19-2010 10:21 PM

also found this, page 11 discusses the harness wire stuff. Just throwing whatever I find at you in hopes one of them has the answer

http://www.blackfbody.com/media/LS1_Engine_Kit.pdf

also, i read that the racks that the coil packs bolt on to are side specific. if they were off, then try swapping them to the other side. i think its a white harness

KirkEvil 10-19-2010 11:16 PM

the racks and harness are not side specific. I had mine totally disassembled then mixed together

BigAls87Z28 10-19-2010 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PolarBear (Post 732900)
What did you connect them to?
I actually had a similar problem with my 73 Camaro when I got it. The wire the distributor was connected to was not hot during crank, may not the same but similar

We spliced them into wires under the dash. Adam and I checked to make sure that they wer 12v switched and 12v hot. I guess we will have to go over that again.

The Fixer 10-20-2010 02:55 PM

Yeah Al, check that out - the pink and purple wires off the ignition switch are hot at different times. I know when we swapped the TPI into my car I had to make sure that certain wires were hot in Bulb Check, Run, and Crank, and some had to be hot only in Run. Good luck getting her fired up!

BigAls87Z28 10-20-2010 09:56 PM

Well boys and girls the car starts. But because a certain safety risks i will not be making it to the nats

Featherburner 10-20-2010 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 733039)
Well boys and girls the car starts. But because a certain safety risks i will not be making it to the nats

What was wrong?

BigAls87Z28 10-20-2010 11:02 PM

Nah, just posted that while driving.
The coils were hooked up to 12v switched, but not to 12v crank. Well, we fixed that and it fired up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XP_Und-dD4

Blackbirdws6 10-21-2010 05:43 AM

Happy the problem was solved before you threw more $ at it. Sucks you won't make it to the Nats but better you not rush the final things on the Camaro.

Just remembered, what is your rear end gear ratio? We were too wrapped up in the engine starting issue for me to change it in HPTuners. Regardless, a final flash should be done to make sure everything is where it should be.

Frosty 10-21-2010 05:48 AM

Glad to hear it's up and running so to speak. :)

BigAls87Z28 10-21-2010 07:23 AM

It actually could drive right now but we are missing afew things. I guess we will see how she does next season.

Frosty 10-21-2010 07:28 AM

Nice. Good job on not rushing it though, no real reason to. How's it running/idling?

sweetbmxrider 10-21-2010 07:55 AM

it idles pretty dirty :)


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