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PBodyGT87 11-06-2005 10:39 AM

the transparent aluminum is not legit so i have heard.

Tsar 11-06-2005 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brando56894
they do look pretty sweet, but how can you make a metal clear? Â*:?

transparent aliminum... take a look http://beverlytang.com/archives/mate..._aluminum.html

Tsar 11-06-2005 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
the transparent aluminum is not legit so i have heard.

why not?

NJSPEEDER 11-06-2005 01:10 PM

well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.

later
tim

Tsar 11-06-2005 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.

later
tim

but its still strong, or at least they say it is

Fasterthanyou 11-06-2005 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.

later
tim

Would you like some fries with your ketchup? :lol:
Hypereutectic; Having the minor component present in a larger amount than in the eutectic composition of the same components.

Brando56894 11-06-2005 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.

later
tim

Would you like some fries with your ketchup? :lol:
Hypereutectic; Having the minor component present in a larger amount than in the eutectic composition of the same components.

wtf? :?: and yea tim i agree, its not transparent aliminum its still glass.... this just made me think, if you hit it real hard with a hammer does it shatter,crack, or dent?

slasherbarb 11-06-2005 05:26 PM

well..IMO...those rims ain't spinnin'...therefore, they ain't sh#t!!!!!

call me when they make clear spinnas!!!

Tsar 11-06-2005 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brando56894
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Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.

later
tim

Would you like some fries with your ketchup? Â*:lol:
Hypereutectic; Having the minor component present in a larger amount than in the eutectic composition of the same components.

wtf? Â*:?: and yea tim i agree, its not transparent aliminum its still glass.... this just made me think, if you hit it real hard with a hammer does it shatter,crack, or dent?

if you hit anything hard enough it will shatter/crack/dent.

enRo 11-06-2005 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar
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Originally Posted by Brando56894
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Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.

later
tim

Would you like some fries with your ketchup? :lol:
Hypereutectic; Having the minor component present in a larger amount than in the eutectic composition of the same components.

wtf? :?: and yea tim i agree, its not transparent aliminum its still glass.... this just made me think, if you hit it real hard with a hammer does it shatter,crack, or dent?

if you hit anything hard enough it will shatter/crack/dent.

I speakth the experience...
Lesson of the year: Momo shifters do big damage to Honda windshields :-D

Koll 11-06-2005 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar
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Originally Posted by Brando56894
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Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
well, because it says it is made from glass right in the description that is linked. lol
adding aluminum oxide to glass doesn't make clear aluminum, it makes galss with aluminum in it.

later
tim

Would you like some fries with your ketchup? :lol:
Hypereutectic; Having the minor component present in a larger amount than in the eutectic composition of the same components.

wtf? :?: and yea tim i agree, its not transparent aliminum its still glass.... this just made me think, if you hit it real hard with a hammer does it shatter,crack, or dent?

if you hit anything hard enough it will shatter/crack/dent.

I think what he ment is "If you hit glass, it shatters, if you hit metal it dents. Which will this do?"

Ian 11-06-2005 06:20 PM

if its the transparent aluminum, it should dent (assuming of course that the stuff on the website is real). If its just glass with aluminum in it, I would think that it would crack. dont quote me though cause I really dont know anything about metallurgy or the composition of glass and aluminum. :lol:

Tsar 11-06-2005 06:22 PM

well so what if it shatters? im pretty sure CF shatters too but you dont see too many people complain about it. :shrug:

Batman 11-06-2005 07:20 PM

Ummm, weird?

PBodyGT87 11-06-2005 07:58 PM

if what is on the site is legit, and well, i don't know if trust a site titled "beverlytang.com" i would imagine it would crack, or mostly chip. they are saying it's not aluminum, but "alumina", in other words, a whole new susbtance, not a variation of aluminum. but i don't think it's really legit. I would assume those wheels are made out of some other material, like maybe a composition of lexan and other sorts, there are other acrylics and plastics that are rather strong.

don't trust everything you find on the interweb.

as for cracking and shattering, glass is really, technically, a plastic of sorts. glass is nothing more than a thin hard "skin" (on each face of the glass) that lays on top of a "softer" material. don't get me wrong, just cuz i say plastic, doesn't mean it's not strong or hard. anyway, when you break glass, if the "skins" are more elastic, the glass is liable to simply crack in a hairline, or, like that of a windshield, spidercrack but hold together, mostly maintaining shape, depending on the type of impact. but when the skin is less elastic, this is when you get the shatter effect, because the inner material cannot maintain shape without it. and much like the rubber of a popping balloon, the skin immediately retracts, releasing the inner material, and the glass falls apart into little pieces.

Ian 11-06-2005 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
if what is on the site is legit, and well, i don't know if trust a site titled "beverlytang.com" i would imagine it would crack, or mostly chip. they are saying it's not aluminum, but "alumina", in other words, a whole new susbtance, not a variation of aluminum. but i don't think it's really legit. I would assume those wheels are made out of some other material, like maybe a composition of lexan and other sorts, there are other acrylics and plastics that are rather strong.

don't trust everything you find on the interweb.

as for cracking and shattering, glass is really, technically, a plastic of sorts. glass is nothing more than a thin hard "skin" (on each face of the glass) that lays on top of a "softer" material. don't get me wrong, just cuz i say plastic, doesn't mean it's not strong or hard. anyway, when you break glass, if the "skins" are more elastic, the glass is liable to simply crack in a hairline, or, like that of a windshield, spidercrack but hold together, mostly maintaining shape, depending on the type of impact. Â*but when the skin is less elastic, this is when you get the shatter effect, because the inner material cannot maintain shape without it. and much like the rubber of a popping balloon, the skin immediately retracts, releasing the inner material, and the glass falls apart into little pieces.

wow, do you have a phd in glass-ology? :lol:

BlueFBird 11-06-2005 09:25 PM

its holdin the wheels on thats good enough for me :lol:

jims69camaro 11-06-2005 09:34 PM

it's not a metal, it's a ceramic. and it would shatter under the definition of ceramics. keep them outta jersey potholes, then...

Fasterthanyou 11-08-2005 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro
it's not a metal, it's a ceramic. and it would shatter under the definition of ceramics. keep them outta jersey potholes, then...

It's definatly a ceramic but ceramic's are also usually defined as non-metallic. This is where the definitions aren't so clear because what they should say is non-transition or non-magnetic metals because AL (aluminum) is a metal!

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Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
if what is on the site is legit, and well, i don't know if trust a site titled "beverlytang.com" i would imagine it would crack, or mostly chip. they are saying it's not aluminum, but "alumina", in other words, a whole new susbtance, not a variation of aluminum. (blah blah blah)

I can't say if the wheels look legit or not. For me the pictures aren't working. If they are completely clear then I'd say fake, probably a plastic. If they're aren't completely transparent then they could very well be made of Alumina.
It's still aluminum. Alumina; AL2O3 aka Aluminum Oxide has been around for years. It's found in all aluminum that has been exposed to ozone. The patina that is formed is Alumina. The properties of Alumina are very hard and used in abrasive blasting. I got a 50lb bag of it to clean off rust when I ever get my blasting cabinet finished.

Ian 11-08-2005 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
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Originally Posted by jims69camaro
it's not a metal, it's a ceramic. Â*and it would shatter under the definition of ceramics. Â*keep them outta jersey potholes, then...

It's definatly a ceramic but ceramic's are also usually defined as non-metallic. This is where the definitions aren't so clear because what they should say is non-transition or non-magnetic metals because AL (aluminum) is a metal!

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Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
if what is on the site is legit, and well, i don't know if trust a site titled "beverlytang.com" i would imagine it would crack, or mostly chip. they are saying it's not aluminum, but "alumina", in other words, a whole new susbtance, not a variation of aluminum. (blah blah blah)

I can't say if the wheels look legit or not. For me the pictures aren't working. If they are completely clear then I'd say fake, probably a plastic. If they're aren't completely transparent then they could very well be made of Alumina.
It's still aluminum. Alumina; AL2O3 aka Aluminum Oxide has been around for years. It's found in all aluminum that has been exposed to ozone. The patina that is formed is Alumina. The properties of Alumina are very hard and used in abrasive blasting. I got a 50lb bag of it to clean off rust when I ever get my blasting cabinet finished.

Thanks Mr. Wizard! :lol:

12secondv6 11-08-2005 12:36 PM

Maybe just black magic?

NJSPEEDER 11-08-2005 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 12secondv6
Maybe just black magic?

why's it gots ta be a black thang?

later
tim

jims69camaro 11-08-2005 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
Quote:

Originally Posted by jims69camaro
it's not a metal, it's a ceramic. Â*and it would shatter under the definition of ceramics. Â*keep them outta jersey potholes, then...

It's definatly a ceramic but ceramic's are also usually defined as non-metallic. This is where the definitions aren't so clear because what they should say is non-transition or non-magnetic metals because AL (aluminum) is a metal!

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBodyGT87
if what is on the site is legit, and well, i don't know if trust a site titled "beverlytang.com" i would imagine it would crack, or mostly chip. they are saying it's not aluminum, but "alumina", in other words, a whole new susbtance, not a variation of aluminum. (blah blah blah)

I can't say if the wheels look legit or not. For me the pictures aren't working. If they are completely clear then I'd say fake, probably a plastic. If they're aren't completely transparent then they could very well be made of Alumina.
It's still aluminum. Alumina; AL2O3 aka Aluminum Oxide has been around for years. It's found in all aluminum that has been exposed to ozone. The patina that is formed is Alumina. The properties of Alumina are very hard and used in abrasive blasting. I got a 50lb bag of it to clean off rust when I ever get my blasting cabinet finished.

it is a ceramic with aluminum oxide in it... the quote was "much harder than either glass or steel", making reference to the two properties (i guess) of glass and 'metal'. i'd still bank on shatter, but at what point it would shatter would be a mystery. how much force would it take to break a ceramic interlaced with aluminum oxide? wouldn't that much depend on how much of the two (or more) ingredients...

Squirrel 11-08-2005 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
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Originally Posted by 12secondv6
Maybe just black magic?

why's it gots ta be a black thang?

thats brown magic....


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