lol so go get pulled over durring the day and ask the cop if you can check his lights before you go........

and tell a detective or plainclothes cop that you need him to go put on his dress uniform before he can write you up...not that detectives will waste their time pulling speeders over, but they are known to stop suspected dwi's or streetracers.
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tell it to the undercovers in philly that are in street cars busting up ************....

well said my friend

So you'd take a ticket from a cop pulling you over off duty in plain clothes? How do you know he's not a cop? How do you know you're not getting pulled over by some con artist who wants to kill you when you roll down the window? I've been pulled over by a cop in Ringoes in plain clothes. He had an unmarked car with strobes, but he was in civilian dress when he approached my car. He gave me a hard time, no written warning, but he immediately told me to have a nice day when I pointed out that I could not properly decipher whether or not he was an officer of the law if he did not represent himself in any uniform. So you'd take a ticket from a guy like that?

no i would not pull over for someone in there personal vehicle off duty, but no where in my post did i say i would or did i say anything about off duty officers at all.

and people are taking "police powers on and off duty" as me saying they can pull you over. that wont happen. im refering to off duty cops happening upon a crime in progress etc.

You have to be more clear in your argument when you're talking about crimes in progress in comparison to minor street offenses, such as speeding or traffic violations, which is what Phil was referring to. We're not talking about undercover stings or crime rings. We're talking about one plain clothed cop and a potential traffic ticket hanging in the balance. So is it right that a cop out of uniform would pull over a speeder/traffic-violator and issue a ticket? That's the only question that wants an answer.

a street clothed/plain clothed officer CAN call in and report what he/she sees and issue a ticket, which will then be mailed to the home address of the offending person.. has happened to at least one member here that i know of, who can chime in if he wants.

the last part of your statement IS legal.

i answered that, street racing is still a traffic violation, and philly is using undercover officers to amung a number of things ISSUE TICKETS. And detectives and other higher ranking officers who dont wear uniforms are known to be in car chases, make stops when they see suspected dwi or other serious problems. i also already answered that i was at no time talking about OFFDUTY officers. it would take one sereiously DUMB cop to use his personal vehicle to make a traffic stop while off duty and walk up to an unknown persons car unarmed and without a radio to call for backup.

Please keep personal matters personal, they have no bearing on this conversation.

- Justin