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WildBillyT 02-19-2007 11:54 AM

Wayfast,

It does not cost anything to join Team Camaro.

The only thing posted so far that I don't agree with is the projected value of the car.

6 cyl cars have 6 cyl VINs, which will hurt the value.

I would say that this car would top out somewhere in the 20's, unless it's a well done pro touring or pro street car. It can never be a well done clone because of the VIN number.

WayFast84 02-19-2007 12:02 PM

Im sure I could Get a nice pretty penny from it, My main thing is just getting the car so when I do have the money I can still have it then start working on it. If i did get it, i would keep it like that till its running with a v8 in it, and prolly a 6 spd, then paint it sunset orange metalic. with a vynal roof, and then get some nicer wheels and a spoiler and enjoy her

jimmyboy8301 02-19-2007 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84 (Post 316206)
Im sure I could Get a nice pretty penny from it, My main thing is just getting the car so when I do have the money I can still have it then start working on it. If i did get it, i would keep it like that till its running with a v8 in it, and prolly a 6 spd, then paint it sunset orange metalic. with a vynal roof, and then get some nicer wheels and a spoiler and enjoy her

if you are working with that much money, honestly you should invest it in a high yield intrest account. your more likely to make money that way. Even if you buy that car for 5k, put 15k into it, that right there is 20k. That would most likely take you YEARS to complete. Then your not guaranteed to make your money back either, let alone doubling or tripling what you put into it. If thats what your looking to do, your much better off investing. If your looking for another project car then do what ever you want. My opinion is still I would not do it.

bad64chevelle 02-19-2007 12:12 PM

I have 13 into my car, and ive been offered almost 4 times that...Its money in the bank at this point if you go about it the right way. I think its always worth it, if you have the money, you will most likely always be able to get what you have into it back out, and then some.

WildBillyT 02-19-2007 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bad64chevelle (Post 316209)
I have 13 into my car, and ive been offered almost 4 times that...Its money in the bank at this point if you go about it the right way. I think its always worth it, if you have the money, you will most likely always be able to get what you have into it back out, and then some.

Not always IMO. If the car requires heavy repairs and he isn't equipped to handle them, he is going to have to shell out a lot of money just to get it in resaleable condition. It could be a "Hot Potato" car, where it's a good deal but it needs some big repair, leaving whoever gets stuck with it to shell out. Underneath the paint it could be full of bondo and fiberglass.

For guys like you (from what I have seen on here), me (quite frankly ;)) and a few others on here it's not that big a deal, because we can tackle a big project on our own. If this needs a big repair he will be in deep trouble pretty quickly.

Caveat Emptor.

bad64chevelle 02-19-2007 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 316216)
Not always IMO. If the car requires heavy repairs and he isn't equipped to handle them, he is going to have to shell out a lot of money just to get it in resaleable condition. It could be a "Hot Potato" car, where it's a good deal but it needs some big repair, leaving whoever gets stuck with it to shell out. Underneath the paint it could be full of bondo and fiberglass.

For guys like you (from what I have seen on here), me (quite frankly ;)) and a few others on here it's not that big a deal, because we can tackle a big project on our own. If this needs a big repair he will be in deep trouble pretty quickly.

Caveat Emptor.

Oh I fully agree with you on that, for someone who has the time, and ability to do a car (like my Hardtop SS) it would be decently easy, but mostly time consuming. With the availability of reproduction parts (sheetmetal mostly) and since they are *relatively* inexpensive, restoring the car is not too bad. If the tools, skills, the will, or the understanding is not there it gets expensive, and even more time consuming. I was kinda just pointing out that the statement about the $$ investment compared to the bank. There are always those money pits that you cant get your money back out of, and case in point would be my dad's 54 Chevy (however lately they have been making a come back because of the tri-5s getting harder to find) He knows he would never get his money out of that car, but he doesnt really care, its something he really wants to have. I dont really care about the fact that I can get my $ back out of the car, I just want to enjoy it. However, knowing that in the back of my head, that god forbid anything ever happened, I could if I needed to.

JL8Jeff 02-19-2007 12:58 PM

Based on the car being somewhat low miles and looks mostly original, I could see it needing quite a few $$ just to make sure it's safe to drive. In your position Matt, I think you would have a hard time making the purchase and then being able to put the $$ and needed work into it. Yeah, the car could be worth $20-30K depending on what is done to it, but you won't be able to do what it needs so you probably wouldn't be able to make any significant money on it. You might be able to buy it now and flip it next year for a $1000 profit or so. That's not bad for the initial investment. But I tend to think there are some hidden issues with the car like floor rust or hidden body work. You really need to see it in person to determine what condition it's really in. Don't believe a word the dealer says!

BonzoHansen 02-19-2007 01:09 PM

I deleted the off-topic, argumentative posts.

WF, this car could be a screaming deal - but probably not, but you may end up way too deep over your head. If you did buy, where you going to store it?

If you do go look at it, I am sure there are some people here would go with you.

bad64chevelle 02-19-2007 01:34 PM

It looks like a decently clean car, try to look underneath it and check it out, take some underneath shots, and one of the trunk.

88BluBird 02-19-2007 01:49 PM

If you look closely at the interior pics you can see that there is a column shifter and drive positions.

WildBillyT 02-19-2007 01:51 PM

4 wheel manual drum brakes FTL. Easy to fix, but FTL nonetheless.

BonzoHansen 02-19-2007 02:02 PM

It is a 6cyl base model. It will have nothing!

WildBillyT 02-19-2007 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 316241)
It is a 6cyl base model. It will have nothing!

Hey, there's a '69 JL8 6cyl out there somewhere. :D

BonzoHansen 02-19-2007 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 316245)
Hey, there's a '69 JL8 6cyl out there somewhere. :D

But it is no 68! :lol: :lol: :lol:

TAdan 02-19-2007 06:39 PM

Very interesting...Could you share the extra pics if the dealer sends them to you?

NJSPEEDER 02-19-2007 06:43 PM

it is an auto, first pic shows a column shift. a fairly typical straight 6 + power glide.
it woudl make for a nice little cruiser and if it is solid and easy resto to turn around for a few bucks profit. the 6cyl market has been steadily climbing the last several years.

BonzoHansen 02-19-2007 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER (Post 316350)
it is an auto, first pic shows a column shift. a fairly typical straight 6 + power glide.
it woudl make for a nice little cruiser and if it is solid and easy resto to turn around for a few bucks profit. the 6cyl market has been steadily climbing the last several years.

It's the cheapest way to get in. Plus no one cares if you hack up a 6cyl base car. I'd still leave it looking just like that. Total sleeper.

Mike 02-19-2007 07:28 PM

i have a 68 straight six vert, much rougher shape....ive been offered 12k

Rafterman 02-19-2007 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84 (Post 316064)
yes and the asking price is like $5995 and no i wont give you any contact info till i make an offer and its refused

someone loves men

Squirrel 02-19-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyboy8301 (Post 316051)
nothing

+ 1

qwikz28 02-19-2007 07:45 PM

i'd like to know howyou guys think the reproduction shells affected sales of these low end 1st gens

BonzoHansen 02-19-2007 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 316366)
i'd like to know howyou guys think the reproduction shells affected sales of these low end 1st gens

That is cheaper than a dynacorn shell - and much more legal

BonzoHansen 02-19-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirrel (Post 316365)
+ 1

Too bad, that would make a nice home for your LT1/T56

NJSPEEDER 02-19-2007 07:56 PM

:mrgreen:

WildBillyT 02-19-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 316366)
i'd like to know howyou guys think the reproduction shells affected sales of these low end 1st gens

The first gen shells are not all they are cracked up to be. They need a lot of finishing to be right. Not to mention that they will have titling issues in certain states.


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