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trashman01 05-08-2007 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by armymp1983 (Post 341866)
Me and my brother had this discussion yesterday. If every citizen carried a firearm, wouldn't that make this a safer country? People would think twice before robbing an elderly lady, because she might blow his ass away. It worked back in the old days, you've seen the old westerns. But then again i'm the military type so i think a little irrationaly sometimes.

finally some1 who thinks like me! listen if u ban firearms, might as well ban fishing polls too then. cuz that can be a weapon also:rolleyes: listen u ban firearms ur keeping the sport of hunting. it pans out further then just a hobbysit who wants that model gun. hell i shoot a 9mm at the range almost everyweekend and im thinking bout picking up another gun(think sniperish) so i can practice at this farmers old corn field on some damn soda cans

Teds89IROC 05-08-2007 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428 (Post 341822)
well we can't just outright ban fire-arms...It doesn't matter, then theres knives, then anything else you can find. its not the weapon, its the user. If there are stricter laws put in place who's going to abide by them, law abiding citizens. Criminals can still get illeagal fire-arms regardles of what the goverment says...so the only people suffering are people doing the right thing. Having these laws in place leave good people with out viable protection from a gun toting maniac...

Couldn't agree more.

What do you think "outlaw" means? It means that they work outside of the law. So what are more laws going to do? We need to stop worrying about helping other countries and protect ourselves and do whats in our best interest. When we catch slime like this, they need to be disposed of, just like thy have done to our people that they've taken hostage over the years. The only way to make all this stop is to show them that we will hit twice as hard in return to what they do to us.

bubba428 05-08-2007 02:44 PM

OMG one terrorist was a taxi cab driver, one was a pizza boy, one was a gas attendant, and one was a 7/11 clerk...:rofl: OMG I'm accually laughing so hard I'm crying:rofl: and the names were soo funny tatar and duka....anyone see team america....muhammed duka duka is acually a terrorist

Firebird67dude 05-08-2007 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Teds89IROC (Post 341930)
Couldn't agree more.

What do you think "outlaw" means? It means that they work outside of the law. So what are more laws going to do? We need to stop worrying about helping other countries and protect ourselves and do whats in our best interest. When we catch slime like this, they need to be disposed of, just like thy have done to our people that they've taken hostage over the years. The only way to make all this stop is to show them that we will hit twice as hard in return to what they do to us.


IO agree with you Ted. But the problem is that we need someone with BIG BALLS in office.(Nothing against whos in now)

If you noticed, they dont video other countries' soilders getting beheaded or torchered. Why is this? Its becouse anyother country would be like ok your going to die now. I say we take some of thier "military" guys or "mayrtars" or how ever you spell it and either let bubba take good care of em or just totaly torcher them. Last thing we need in office tho is Democrat asshat.

bubba428 05-08-2007 02:59 PM

Rob was that you ordering them pizzas :rofl:

bubba428 05-08-2007 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebird67dude (Post 341943)
I say we take some of there "military" guys or "mayrtars" or how ever you spell it and either let bubba take good car of em or just totaly torcher them.

Ok I'm not going to bust your balls about the grammar but, Bubbas got a truck...and a WHOLE lotta rope... I'll leave it at that.

baddest434 05-08-2007 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428 (Post 341947)
Ok I'm not going to bust your balls about the grammar

and you should'nt. every read any of your own post:rofl:

the pizza boy is the one who had access to get on the base to make deliveries. he worked at super mario's pizza in cookstown.

FROM THIS DAY ON I'LL ONLY BUY GAS AT AN AMERICAN OWNED AND OPERATED STATION!!!! can't trust those illegal scumbags anymore.

Firebird67dude 05-08-2007 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428 (Post 341947)
Ok I'm not going to bust your balls about the grammar but, Bubbas got a truck...and a WHOLE lotta rope... I'll leave it at that.

But i fixed it minus the spelling.

qwikz28 05-08-2007 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by camaroracer1992 (Post 341827)
whoever said to ban guns on this post is a moron. just wait until the day youd need one to protect your self and all you have is a water gun (which the dems would probably outlaw them too), youll be wishing you had a HK or a Ar around :) . as what bubba said only the honest/law abiding citizen gets screwed when they make laws, criminals 99% of the time dont buy the gun from a gun store, its from jamal on the corner, or they obtain it from a straw purchase. In the case of the straw purchase the gun store owner has no idea what happens to that gun after it leaves the store, as long as its legit at the time of sale its ok to sell it to that person.

thank you. and for the record, i will never shoot someone. tell me i have no balls or whatever, but i'd rather die than kill another human being.

and this thread got dumber than the idiots that bought AKs in cherry hill. banning the distribution of arms is not a solution, but it is a step in the right direction. these guys tried to purchase their guns legally, and as did Cho. making them illegal will make it that much harder to obtain. someone tell me one legit downside that isn't already a problem in this country.

qwikz28 05-08-2007 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by baddest434 (Post 341979)
and you should'nt. every read any of your own post:rofl:

the pizza boy is the one who had access to get on the base to make deliveries. he worked at super mario's pizza in cookstown.

FROM THIS DAY ON I'LL ONLY BUY GAS AT AN AMERICAN OWNED AND OPERATED STATION!!!! can't trust those illegal scumbags anymore.

ignorance is bliss huh? you know, most of the terrorists are here on visa or are even citizens. and even your family was once an immigrant to this country. i'd expect something a little more intelligent from someone you're age.

Teds89IROC 05-08-2007 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 342030)
thank you. and for the record, i will never shoot someone. tell me i have no balls or whatever, but i'd rather die than kill another human being.

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Even if someone was trying to kill you and the only way to stop them was to kill them first? just curious. I could never shoot someone just for the sake of shooting them but if they were attacking me and that was my only defense then so be it.

Firebird67dude 05-08-2007 09:45 PM

to get a gun illegal and seel for a profit....

1. Go to florida or any southern state
2. Find any back woods hick with no teeth and has other guns
3. Gun is say $1500
4. Pay hick $1750 to buy gun for you
5. Make way back up here
6a. Either shoot up spomething
6b. Sell on the street for profit.


The number on the gun will go back to the hick and that would be that, if the gun is ever found.

Jake, you bring up a good point about how they are either citizens or here on visas. Does anyone know how hard it is to be allowed to come over here? It is easier for a person of middle eastern desent to come here than it is for a person from the UK to come here. Don't argue because my cuz from England has been trying to come here and can't.

In stead of makeing guns illegal, myb make it harder for ppl. to be allowed to come here. I'm not saying racil profile but what nationality are these terrorists? not pointing fingers dont get me wrong but come on now.

I don't understand how someone could say they'd never shoot someone. If it came down to either you dieing or u shooting someone who is an ENEMY so you live, I think the answer is ovious. If someone then says you have no balls for your view, you need to look at who its coming from. IDK, myb its just me growing upo hunting or the life direction I decided to take but I think the answers are ovious.

qwikz28 05-08-2007 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Teds89IROC (Post 342068)
Even if someone was trying to kill you and the only way to stop them was to kill them first? just curious. I could never shoot someone just for the sake of shooting them but if they were attacking me and that was my only defense then so be it.

nope... ultimate judgement is left for God. killing someone is defying God's will. theology isn't a topic tough guys like to talk about on message boards, but the fact of the matter is, you're ultimate fate is predetermined. i mean, granted you may or may not believe what i'm saying, but this is what I believe, and i stand firmly upon my beliefs.

qwikz28 05-08-2007 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebird67dude (Post 342071)

Jake, you bring up a good point about how they are either citizens or here on visas. Does anyone know how hard it is to be allowed to come over here? It is easier for a person of middle eastern desent to come here than it is for a person from the UK to come here. Don't argue because my cuz from England has been trying to come here and can't.

you know why tim? thats because people in the UK are educated and would take our jobs. now someone from the middle east, is stuck working minimum wage unskilled jobs. they take up the crap, poorly paying jobs shared along side the minority groups, we take the high paying white collar jobs. everyone is happy...

Teds89IROC 05-08-2007 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 342073)
nope... ultimate judgement is left for God. killing someone is defying God's will. theology isn't a topic tough guys like to talk about on message boards, but the fact of the matter is, you're ultimate fate is predetermined. i mean, granted you may or may not believe what i'm saying, but this is what I believe, and i stand firmly upon my beliefs.

interesting, but self defense is a whole nother rissue. The bible does have passages about protecting your house and family from theives

qwikz28 05-08-2007 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Teds89IROC (Post 342079)
interesting, but self defense is a whole nother rissue. The bible does have passages about protecting your house and family from theives

that was in the Jewish Torah. in the New Testament, Jesus specifically states: Thou shall not kill

camaroracer1992 05-08-2007 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 342030)
thank you. and for the record, i will never shoot someone. tell me i have no balls or whatever, but i'd rather die than kill another human being.

and this thread got dumber than the idiots that bought AKs in cherry hill. banning the distribution of arms is not a solution, but it is a step in the right direction. these guys tried to purchase their guns legally, and as did Cho. making them illegal will make it that much harder to obtain. someone tell me one legit downside that isn't already a problem in this country.

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Teds89IROC 05-08-2007 10:30 PM

in the new testament, Jesus told the disciples in the last hours with them "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a sack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one" back then the sword was the best weapon available. Later was the incident where peter cut off the ear of the servant and Jesus told him to put the sword by his side. He only said this because the swords were to protect their own mortal life, not Jesus' because his will was to die for our sins.

qwikz28 05-08-2007 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Teds89IROC (Post 342087)
in the new testament, Jesus told the disciples in the last hours with them "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a sack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one" back then the sword was the best weapon available. Later was the incident where peter cut off the ear of the servant and Jesus told him to put the sword by his side. He only said this because the swords were to protect their own mortal life, not Jesus' because his will was to die for our sins.

this was a figurative speech. Christ only spoke of a "spiritual" means of confronting an enemy. when Peter cut off the soldiers ear, Christ did not condone it, He rather retorted and said "enough!" the apostles were unable to grasp this. with the benefit of hindsight, we understand what Christ was saying because He did not condone the use of the sword when the soldiers came to subdue Jesus in Gethsemane. it's confusing indeed, but it all makes sense if you think of it in terms of figurative language.

qwikz28 05-08-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by camaroracer1992 (Post 342085)
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i'm glad you're rebuttal was well thought out. i'm also glad you're too prideful to apologize for you're slander. quite fitting for a 27 year old...

98tadriver 05-08-2007 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 342083)
that was in the Jewish Torah. in the New Testament, Jesus specifically states: Thou shall not kill

Thou shalt accidentally fall down my stairs onto some bullets..

Firebird67dude 05-08-2007 11:36 PM

All right ppl. enough. Topic is done. cook and sent to the table to eat. leave it alone. they cought them and thats it. Be thankful that nothign happened. All you can do from this is keep your eyes open and report anything out of order.

This is turning into a lose your friends thread.

All in all... they started it and all we need is someone in office with balls to finish this. All I know is that if someone is gunna try and kill me they are gunna die first. if it wasnt for killing no one would be her in the first place. you think anyone fighting in and of the WW care what the hell the bible says? hell friggin no. When it comes down to it defense is natural.

I dont get how anyone can say they wouldnt kill someone trying to kill them. Waht if you get off your comp and get in your car and drive around and nail some jerk who stepped off a side walk and you kill him. Either way accident or not you killed someone so figuatively ur going where ever or whatever your bad place is when you dide. unless you believe ull come back as a squierrl of some crap, cuz then you have your own issues.

OoOand i hate quoting something not exact but isnt it somewhere in the bible "eye for an eye"? No matter what book its in, its in there.

And for the fall down stairs post... WOW i think im now half retarded after reading that

Firebird67dude 05-08-2007 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 342030)
. making them illegal will make it that much harder to obtain.

Easiest way to obtain a gun with no paper trail to you...

1. drive to southern state
2. Find a toothlees farmer hick that has several guns already
3. Pay him $1750 for a $1000 gun.
4. Bring gun back upo here
5a. Shoot up something
5b. Sell on the street for more money than you payed for it.

Very easy to obtain guns. So making them illegal is not the answer. Taking the illegal one off the street is a better option.

Savage_Messiah 05-09-2007 12:21 AM

Don't we all know by now that this political crap, and even more the religious crap, leads to nowhere good on a message board? I was about to get involved but I'm holding myself back because it would do nothing but make this thread even worse.

qwikz28 05-09-2007 07:26 AM

ok aside from the political/religious arguments... i still don't get why people are so attached to fire arms. with the obvious exception of hunting equipment and the few police officers on this board. but what good does holding a weapon do? you're most likely never going to fire it. and if you do fire it, it's most probably gonna put you in trouble. or even worse, if problems arouse, and you are holding a firearm, you are definately gonna have fingers pointed you're way


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