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- Justin

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smart thinking man. it just ain't worth it. i'm not saying that i never did it, i did, almost every w/e on 37 till i raced 2 mustangs on night and we were way out in manchester because "theres never cops there" well there was. and all 3 off us were in excess of 100 mph when we flew past him. he pulled out i just slowed down i wasn't going to run from him. i'd take it like a man if i got caught. he flew along side of me and dove in front of me and went after one of the mustangs that tried to take a jughandle to lose him. once he turned i kept going straight. straight home !!! and locked the car in the garage. my adrenaline was flying. i figured he radioed in my plate # and i'd get some tickets in the mail. well i said "if i get away with this i'll never race on the streets again" and i got away with it........end of story and street racing for me.
lose of license=lose of job for me!

What I am upset about is people's mentality. Granted street racing is illegal but they found a pretty "safe" place to do it at. Its not like they were racing down main street, the found a road out in the middle of nowhere to have fun on and people still have to go out of their way to hastle them.

A lot of the people who moved in near englishtown KNOWING there was a racetrack there complain about it and would love nothing more than to shut it down, but they moan and cry if u go faster than three miles an hour on their road.

You can't have it both ways, you either give people a place to do it at or they will find a place. What happens now if someone wants to street race? They won't go to that "safe" place in the woods, they may try it on a normal street and injure someone badly and at that point who's to blame? Granted the street racer for making the decision to race, but who influenced their decision where to run?

that could very well be!

street racing is not a bad thing most of time, when ricers are not around it is a better deal. when we do it, it is on a back road with no houses in the way or close and the only way someone is getting hurt is if something happens and you end up in the woods "we know that and take that chance, you can hit the wall at the track and get just as hurt". now when you go racing on the street and go in and out of traffic you are a *** and are asking for trouble. problem with the tracks is there is no night only cars can run every "street" night has some type of gamblers race bracket race or something and you are lucky to get 2-4 runs in. if the tracks had a STREET night only and lowered the prices they would get a crap load of people and money and keep many kids off the street.

:werd: Like justin said, the tracks might be an hour and a half away at the most, but allll that driving for 2 runs? and 15.00 to run... sux. the last 4 times ive been to the track either ive gotten only 2 runs in from 530-10pm that sux sooo bad. atco is 1 hour from me

i love going to the track...but i love street racing too

6 of the people that got busted work with me a Bestbuy... all ricers... i couldnt help but laugh :lol:

Lower prices? Atco is what $13 bucks?

A deer won't run onto the middle of the track...

ive seen deer on the track at atco...

f'in south jersey :lol:

Island is the best for max. amount of runs IMO. Not uncommon to get 10+ runs as long as you're there before like 730.
Hell at the BBQ I got in like 6 runs in 1.5 hrs then I just called it quits.

But not everyone lives 10min away from island

racing and excessive speed kill thousands of of young people(16-25 year olds) each year. there are 3 tracks in this state and the only night none of them are open is monday when hardly anyone goes out anyway.
get used to the crack downs on street racing. the police have been inside the scene for a while now, they know who the players are, and they intend to stop as much of it as possible.
besides, which is worse, spending a tank fo gas and $20 to run and actually get proof of how fast your ride is, or spending the night in jail+having your car impounded+losing your license+paying fines and court fees+having your insurance drop you in half a heartbeat. seems like it is cheaper and easier to jsut hit up a track.

What if you race there? Does that cut the time down? LOL

i dont agree and cops have better things to do then stop people from doing some 1/4 runs on the street. i have a known drug dealer 3 doors down and he just keeps getting away with it. hell they put a sign in front of his house that says drugfree zone or some such thing and still every day and night while kids are running around out front and in the park out back and they do nothing about it. they should worry about people doing worst things then a 100mph on a back road in the middle of no where. now if they stop some one for racing in and out of traffic and take his car i say more power to them, that is not safe hell i would call it in. and those are the idiots that are causing the problems and killing people not the guys going in the woods with one road in and out with the entrance blocked off so no one can get in and get hurt.

you don't agree with which part? that excessive speed and racing related accidents kill people or that the cops shoudl be busting people breaking the law?
you do realize that the cops, by stopping street races, are in fact doing their jobs. traffic laws may in large part be open to some latitude when enforced, the basic speed limit, tint, and front plates are good common examples that we can all relate too. i can certainly relate to going 70 in a 65 along with traffic.
it is a bit different when someone is doing double to triple the speed limit on a public road that wasn't designed for it. add in pedestrians, cross streets, the crown of the road, and the total lack of on hand safety equipment or personel and you are jsut asking to die or watch someone die.
the only thing i can say about your neighbor the drug dealer, is at least 99% of the potential hazard he causes is only to his customers. so unless you are an addict, you are not likely to have any problems.
street racers on the other hand put anyone and everyone who goes out on a public road at risk. i can't imagine that you don't agree that someone else risking your life sounds much worse than someone putting themselves at risk with their own retarded addiction.

i dont agree street racing kills, i agree asses driving on major roads, normal street and parking lots are what kill and hurt people. i have seen organized street races without nothing more then good times. in 15 years i have never once seen one person hurt. i think cops should be looking for kids driving like morons on normal roads in the afternoon not guys in the middle of the woods 2am with no one else around and the only people who could get hurt are the guys doing it and they know that is a risk when they do it, same if they go to the track it is a risk you take why do you think you have a 2 page "sign here" form. and to say the only people that could get hurt by a drug dealer is the people using is the ridiculous. what if a guy that is high comes by hits a kid, fights could break out guns can be pulled all around a park and at a house that has 3 kids themselves. believe me my brother is a cop and i want him doing his job and not wasting time and tax dollars looking for guys having fun hanging out and that may have a 1/4 run or two in the woods away from others.

i watched 3 people die one night in philly. tell me again street racing doesn't kill.
there is a time and reason many people leave the streets for the track. hopefully you will figure it out before you are the statistic.
want some of teh good ones you can be a part of?
you are 7 times more likely to crash racing on the street than on a track
you are 26 times more likely to suffer serious or fatal injuries
medical assistance at an average race track in this country is on the vehicle in under 1 minute, on the average street in this country help is over 7 minutes away. crash at excessive speeds and you will learn very quickly what 6 minutes is worth

yup, doesn't hurt a soul does it?

Tell them to move ;)

living in new jersey, you are no more than an hour from some track. yes, it may be a bit more if traffic is bad.
from here in trenton i can get to atco or etown in 45-60 mins, island in a bit over an hour usualy, maple grove in under 1.5 hours, and cecil county is prolly around 1.5 hours depending on how 95 is around the philly airport too. that is 5 tracks in about the same distance i drove to the south meet last saturday!!!!
any of these tracks i will get a minimum of 3 runs, many nights you can get 10+ at several of them. run once, pull right back in the lanes. wanna race someone specific, they will help get you together. wanna gamble on it, no authority figure will give a hoot.
compare that to going out street racing. drive 30 mins to the closest, good, active meeting spot. sit around for an hour + while people trash talk each other and argue about stips then go to another spot, 15 more minutes of driving, and after all that you don't always get a race and the hyped up race doesn't happen half the time.
and even if you do get a run in, you still don't actually have proof of how fast/slow your car is and people argue about who won and where the line is constantly.

I think his point is street racing if not done without COMPLETE disregard for public saftey is not that dangerous. Those statistics are probably compiled from people street racing in general and most of those statistics come from people doing it on crowded streets. Let's use another example, firing ranges. You go to a firing range and you shoot in a safe organized environment (track situation). So long as you aren't a complete idiot everyone should be safe and you are not putting yourself or anyone else in danger. Say you walk out into the middle of your local city on a long straight street and you start shooting at a target 150yds out. This is not at a range and it is highly dangerous because the area is not controlled and you are posing a great danger to others (street racing on a public street). The sheer fact of your shooting in that type of situation is causing a danger that you can't control. Now say you go out into a desert where nobody is around, you don't have 100% control over the environment but for all intents and purposes you know you can control it. Now you are not at a range, and it is not "organized" or set up into lanes perse, but it is relatively safe and you are not creating a danger for those around you becaues you are taking reasonable precautions to ensure you are safe (street racing like was busted in s. jersey). They were not zipping in and out of traffic they were running on a halfway controllable environment, a speeder on a normal road would pose more of a REALISTIC threat to public saftey than the actions of these individuals. Not saying that what they did was right or legal, but I'm just pointing something out, though I completely agree with the whole medical attention thing.

yeah, but thats philly. Its densly populated, and just about every time, theyre racing on streets with intersections and lots of traffic/people. And im willing to bet drinking and driving kills more people a year than street racers. Almost Everryyyytiiime, the people i see on the news that died from "excessive speed" or "street racing" are racing in busy, high-traffic areas. And theyre also quite inexperienced in the racing world.

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i used to go to philly when young and dumb and saw how much could go wrong and would never do it again. philly is a city and is the point i am making, dumb people in a 15sec car can cause major damage and death easily. after all the tickets being handed out i dont know if i would street race again either unless it was worth it. but the tracks now a days is still not the answer something else needs to be done.