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yeah you shouldnt have problem wiht the fittings, it is only with high high pressure and sudden increase in pressure is when they'd have a problem. I used to have people come in and buy them when I worked at advance, I told them not to use them , but noone wants to listen to the guy thats been behind the counter for 2 years. I had one guy come in and say, yeah im fixing the brake lines on my sons car, what size compression fittings do I ned for his car. I told him not to use them and he said and I quote: well Im in the pipe fitters union, so I know what im doing and what they're used for, and they will work. I said whatever im not going to sell them to you, so he went over to the next register and he sold them. I wasent there too long after to have the guy come back and tell me his sons brake line exploded after he jammed on the pedal cause some *** pulled out in front ( im not saying it did happen, but i was waiting for him to say that to me)
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I know my old 86-88 Toyota 4Runners had an access panel under the passenger side rear seat floor. It was just sheetmetal bolts/screws holding the panel in place with weatherstripping to seal out water and vapors. The tank sending unit/fuel pump was accessed through that. I don't think there is anything wrong with the access panel, it's just the method used to create the access. Gas isn't dangerous, gas vapors are. It's good to see you found the problem.
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Did you guys remember to square off the tubing after you cut it? A tubing cutter will leave radiused edges that will hinder flow. |
we actually cut them with a small hand-held hack saw. we filed any rough edges and made everything smooth before we put the fittings on.
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Here's the hole and fittings:
http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/30...600x600Q85.jpg There is still a good lip around the perimeter so it still is very rigid. I put touch up paint on any bare metal to avoid rust and wednesday I will be able to seal it off with some sealer, a metal panel, and self tapping machine screws. Using the screws around the perimeter of the panel will be more than enough to "keep things together" as cutting this little section out didn't cause any flexing or distortion. I'll post pics of it all sealed up when I get it done. |
i'd run it before you go and seal it up and make sure nothing leaks
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yup. Before me and Alex took it for a ride Saturday night we checked it all over (filter and fittings too) with it running and I took the car today to get gas and a little 15 minute ride and everything is still fine. 8-)
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This is a little off topic but related. That looks like a pretty big piece of sheet metal you cut out. Maybe 5 or 10% or more of the total area. This might be a stupid point, but, will the trunk area be stucturally weak and have more tendancy to twist or buckle now that there is a BIG HOLE there? Maybe that's why GM decieded not to put a access panel there. FWIW. Oh yea, one more thing. Do you think it would add to the rattling problem with these cars?? I'm a noob here and maybe this was discused in previous threads.
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I think in the long run it will become twisted, maybe not to the naked eye, but on a laser machine it would be found. You do have to remember that the shocks come up thru theback there, so pressure will be applied to that area, I think thats why they corrogated the sheetmetal to give it strength. Forces will always act over the whole body all the time while driving and yes even when sitting. so warpage will take place over tiem, adn somethign like this will increase the time it takes to warp. and it would rattle, god only knows where all my damn rattles coem from, but they said they're going to put wweather stripping to keep out crap and vapors, and to prevent it from rattling, but yeah, idk, fuel pumps in these cars are a ***** to replace.
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I would rather do it the right way or not at all. This includes all the suffering to do it right!! LOL
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I don't think it will cause any future strength problems. The real strength is actually in the ribbed area that goes outside that hole.
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You got a big hole on the top (hatch) and now a 5-10+% hole on the bottom. You now have a hole straight through the car. |
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exactly. and if you look to the right of where this hatch area is, there is more sheet metal structure underneath it. I would love to see someone take measurements of my car in 3 years and show me how this 10x7 hole caused my car to twist :roll: Ted |
Why is this topic still popping up. Its fixed it runs and it was done properly. This was not a hack job. We did our homework, took all the right steps.
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Wow. People really get their panties in a bunch over this. I posted in LS1tech.com about doing my traapdoor on my 96 vert and 2 guys went ballsitic on me. Posted here and nobody said a word lol. Anyway I chose trapdoor method because i dont have floorjacks or jackstands (just a set of oil change ramps lol) nor the money to pay a shop to do it . I did the cutout and install over a 2 day period and havent had any problems. i still have the trapdoor open as I havent decided what to do as far as sealing and the car gets driven like once a week seeing as how im unemployed. The vertible body has a support ridge beam welded in at the cabin side of the sheet metal so there will definately not be any buckling , its not liek im gonan be racing the thing around corners anyway. Oh well , to each tehir own when it comes to opinions.
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