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I think the 350z is not even in the same category. Doesn't look great, extremely annoying sound, and isn't any better of a performer than the Stang. At least the Camaro SHOULD be a better performer.
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tim (njspeeder), pete (procamaro) and antiriceguy-
i disagree with all of you. for one, pete said 350zs don't sell well and tim said they sell at a premium. which is it? the fact that i see far more Zs on the road says something about the sales of that car compared to the stang. secondly, Tim, the 350z is hardly a turd. the car handles better than any factory fbody and is also far more comfortable. trust me, i've driven it. (buddy steve owns a 04 350z autotragic, meena owns a 07 stang with an intake and a shifter, and i own a 4th gen) my car has almost every suspension piece upgraded with a great deal of research put into it, and it barely outhandles the Z. its a great driving car, its just a shame its a typical hunk of crap courtesy of nissan. don't believe me that people don't care for power? look at teh rx8. 15 second ride that is selling great and is loved by track drivers and magazine writers) thirdly, antiriceguy- what are you talking about? its not too far behind the stang in acceleration and then beats it in every other aspect. what i'm saying is horsepower is cheap. we all know you can make any car fast or you can drive fast in any car. but a well built and well balanced machine is a whole other story. the GTO, that car had it all, but the looks and the appeal. i have a muscle car thats fun as heck to scorch the tires with. but thats me. thats not what the majority of people want. i'll sacrifice horsepower for the sake of handling, braking, and a well-manored ride. the corvette is almost there, it just needs an interior that can rival the foreigners. |
whatim saying iv sold alot more mustangs than i sold z's stangs are good for the price but nissan advertises 307hp for the z having driven the crap out of one, that is B/S the cars feels mad slow b/c it lacks serious torque, but it handles amazing... what im tryin to say is how much is the camaro gonna go for b/c the stangs are pretty strong w/ the bang for buck factor and after market parts for it are much cheaper and so abundant which is my prob w/ f bodies other than that ill take f body all day because they are the better car and theres only soo many parts ill buy
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jake, don't trust magazine reviews of cars. these are the same people that declared the yugo one of the best built cars in history and the honda ridgeline the truck of the year.
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examples? miata, honda s2000, mini, wrx, rx8. and on the higher end: g35, lexus, BMWs, TL |
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http://www.edmunds.com/nissan/350z/2...merreview.html http://www.edmunds.com/ford/mustang/...merreview.html |
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roommate has an 06 stang...car rides awesome...
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The GTO didnt fail because of price. GTO failed because it had a stupid badge on it. Had it been called Monaro, it would have sold out. But then, people would have bitched and said "2 doors coupe, V8, performance RWD, hood scoops...THIS SHOULD AHVE BEEN CALLED GTO, WTF IS A MONARO?" But whatever, its over, G8 is here. Quote:
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During the Hot Rod Power tour the SCCA had an Autocross event. I am no professional driver, but my Bird out performed every Stang, and Z that took to the course. Here is one of my runs. It was alot of fun.
http://video.cardomain.com/clip.aspx...AFDC798247AFF0 |
It looks good to me.. The power output of the LS-3 will change a few opinions..
Regardless I think it will still be a dud, retro design cars only hold the markets attention spans for a short time until the next new thing comes then the sales drop.. Just like the Mustang did.. I Hope Gm has already started the next styling for it.. |
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Here's Settlemire's reaction: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...4026#post34026
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He's got a few more posts in the thread, too |
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The Camaro team is working hard on cutting pounds, shedding weight, while still giving us a platform to build a serious performance car on. Its not like they are building a cheap compact car, they are making a performance car. I would assume that Camaro's weight will be on par with Mustang, and probably lighter when Ford adapts IRS for the next gen Mustang. |
nice post kasey. settlemire is hilarious
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IDK that I like the black door handles and the black mirriors. I havent decided how I feel about the ovedrall car though...I guess only time will tell on that one....but I do <3 the white :drool:
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Here's the same shot with inverted colors to show the body lines better than the white does: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attach...1&d=1197555039 - Justin |
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