well i will try to answer with no political motive but one cant when what you accuse the united states of doing is throwing the lives of the soldiers that are protecting your rights to be un informed about what is really going on - KILLING OUR MEN AND WOMEN FOR NOTHING
that is what you said so am i to understand you dont think we should have done anything after 911 - like Clinton did when 200 so Marines were killed in Beirut or after our Navy was attacked SS COLE and saylors died - what was the death of thos men forgetthat he did Nothing that son imbolden the irak goverment and no WMDs so i guess all of his own people he gassed was a ruse as well as 911 -- get off the far left web sites and look around your being snowed and it wont end up real tilll they come looking for you if you dont -- jz

that is what you said so am i to understand you dont think we should have done anything after 911


Oh! absolutely something had to be done BUT when it happened it was a terrorist cell NOT IRAQ who commited the attack so, once again you have not given me a definitive answer....

as with all answers if its nore than 20 words no one reads it WILL YOU

and you have turned it around i agreed with what our country did after 911 and BTW both sides passed the bill in the congress and the senate 2/3 rd vote min and their were only a few far left loonies in the mix

this is the same thing ( opinions about what to do ) that started in 1939 and they were left un checked ( it was a terrorist cell NOT IRAQ ) that was not in the exact words was said about Germany's Gestapo < a fringe group according to the liberal press - than it spread and japan attacked us as well -- History bears out the Roman army was after the world was in their power and no one could attack anyone ( Peace as achieved ) and the Italian liberal government decided to control the rules of engagement the rest is history sound filmier < desk generals


this is the position the left takes in this country show me in the numbers how i am wrong


1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on
demand.

2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and
governments create prosperity. the rightie fat wallets thing

3. You have to believe that guns in
the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S.
nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean
communists, or Iran for that matter and no WMDs were found but Saddam gasses thousands < banned after the first world war

4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal
funding. why do i have to pay for some ********* to paint Jesus in piss in a picture paid for with yours and my taxes protected by the ACLU hello

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by
cyclical documented changes in the earth's climate and more
affected by soccer moms driving SUV's. and Christmas light put up by towns YEA it was in the paper reason they banned lights in that town

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being
homosexualis natural, and making my grandkids in jersey read my 2 Mommy's and me HELLO

7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of
federal funding, if you read the paper at all you know this is true

8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach
4th-graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same
kids about sex and hand out condoms to 11 year olds - YEA


9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony
activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do, and now that the forest is saved and the spotted owl is in vast numbers we can use them to wipe with i guess because their will be no more paper with their plan

10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than
actually doing something to earn it, LIKE a job instead of welfare inner city empowering of the youth yet 75 percent of black kids under 25 years old are in jail or in the system on their way HELLO teach them not programs about no worth

11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent millions of his own
money to make The Passion of the Christ for financial gain only, its what was written in the New York times article about the movie at least 15 times page one and two

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain
parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports
certain parts of the Constitution. way far left of center u agree or not

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are
too high, Mrs Clinton's answer to this question re distribution of funds i think was the tern

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem
are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen. Robert E. Lee, Thomas Edison and Alexander Graham Bell, George Washington have all been put out of our school system American History is a dirty word

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial
quotas and set-asides are not, go apply for a job as an educated white kid and see what happens

16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and is a
very nice person, now she is smiling and going out into the crowds to ge=reet people with her MOM so warm and fuzzy don't you think

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked
anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been
in charge, the DMC has a lock on this one or have you not been watching


18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in
jail, but a liar and a sex offender belonged in the White House, what was it said the greatest president we ever had WOW

19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag
queens,transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally
protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal, and drag queens going into a church and receiving i am not even going their its just to far had i been their they would have blead just like Christ did

20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic Party funding by
the Chinese Government is somehow in the best interest of the United States you do know the china guy is dirty and corrupt and the greatest president signed the favored trading agreement with them YEA right its repubs that benefited

21. You have to believe that it's okay to give Federal workers the
day off on Christmas Day but it's not okay for them or anyone else to say "Merry Christmas." in a public building YEA

Last but not least,

22. You have to believe that this message is a
part of a vast, right wing conspiracy and some how its not that my eyes are open and i do read both sides to get my opinions and they are just that opinions BUT if a lefty does not see anything i said his way i get a label not and answer no open forum with ideas and you asked for it and didn't read it no wonder the divide is so deep -- jz

Well, I guess you'll never give me a straight answer so I'm done with this because no one will ever come to an agreement with politics...

Merry Christmas johnjzjz !!!!!!!!

Jim

you want to start a fight talk about politics or religion

Merry Christmas to you and yours as well --- JIM

Guiliani if he gets the nod.

If not him then I'll write someone in. I will not vote for any of the Democrats on the ticket. Call me ignorant or close-minded, I don't care. Hillary is nothing more than a puppet. She needs to stay in the kitchen and let the big boys run things. She can't keep her story straight(ala John Kerry). I don't want nationalized healthcare, sorry. I'm already paying for Shaniqua and her 5 crack babies to get medical care. Obama? No thanks. Edwards? Yeah lets get a wreck-chasing lawyer in office.

:sigh: Another election with a lot of talk and probably no action.

as i second that --- its a shame the dems who could make it happen, guys like Joe L - wont run because having themselves and their familys draged throught the mud buy a bum or bumette with all untruths -- jz

I'm going to right in my rifle's name. Or even better the Commanding ofiicer of the UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS.

whoever wins the republican card is my vote.

mcclain is going to get the republican card. i would vote for giuliani... but he is too far behind.
i dont have a problem voting for a democrat. i will vote for anyone if i think they will do a good job. the two party system sucks. all it does is encourage people to label themselves as a democrat or a republican, and then vote accordingly. very few people actually think about the issues at hand/what we need as a president, and vote based on that.
hilary is terrible. my parents are die hard liberals, and they even hate her. obama... whatever, he lacks experience but in my opinion, has good ideas. kucinich isnt terrible either.

i WILL move if hilary or huckabee get elected.

I myself wish that Ron Paul had a chance........

trust me, no you dont. ron paul is naiive as can be. he is thinking very idealistically. either he himself doesnt understand the international system, or he is assuming that the voters dont and that they will vote for him because they dont know any better.
ron paul would be a good leader for switzerland... or canada!

and I suppose you understand the international system better? do you also support the north american union? [/devils advocate]

NAU=teh devil

i still say colbert

Ron Paul is this election cycle's equivalent of Howard Dean, i.e. a nutcase

the best candidate (who doesn't have a chance) is Bill Richardson.
what he was able to accomplish out in NM is pretty impressive...

me!

:dancinglock:

im not going to say i understand it better... but i can look at what he says he will do, and see how it will end up in a destroyed country! and no, i dont support the north american union.

(i am an international relations major btw... so not saying i know better than him, but this is what i study. a lot of the candidates deal more with the legal aspect rather than the foreign relations stuff and seeing how what they do will affect the country)

McLovin :mrgreen:

:stupid::horse::horse::horse::horse::horse:

We've already seen what happens when you try to have a discussion with closed-minded ignorance. I'm all for giving diverse views a forum, but we know how quickly it will degenerate into name-calling and "your momma" insults.

I'd like to buy you a Kwanzaa gift... TOLERANCE

I'm surprised to see someone so closed-minded express sympathy with being labeled and ignored.

Its called Maturity in the real world --