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NJSPEEDER 09-06-2008 11:53 PM

"60% of the time it works every time"

V 09-06-2008 11:55 PM

to be honest, i see no problem with the video. we dont know the story behind it, and as for the comments under the video, thats like believeing the bigfoot corpse story.

hell, ill be using tactics WAY more agressive and deadly in a few months. the police and military should have more rights, keeps the public in check.

NJSPEEDER 09-07-2008 12:20 AM

I gotta disagree with you to some degree. I have no problem with the concept of the police needing to have as many rights to protect and allow them to do their job as the public gets when not agreeing with them. The problem is that it really doesn't help me to give police the right to blindly do things, knee jerk reaction type actions, towards me based on a minimal or invisible standard of suspicion or because some random citizen said something stupid. Hell, if people making statements or acting like retards was the standard for a shoulder check the world would have to walk around in hockey gear, cops included cause they are just as dumb as the rest of us.

Basically, I don't want to give up my rights in the name of safety. My rights are what make me safe. I trust that the greater percentage of police are good people and do the right thing. I doubt the percentage of them that cross the line and act like tools is any different than in the general population.

enRo 09-07-2008 12:56 AM

PAPAYAAAAAAAA! That guy got Usi Uminyora'ed lmao

Rich189 09-07-2008 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 483846)
you also realize that with unions as strong as the pba and fop, its impossible to just FIRE someone without an investigation that often takes months?

investigations take at least months i know of a few that have been going on well over a year (and thats only in the 2 yrs since ive been where im at)

I love how all these people automatically assume the cop was wrong nobody knows the circumstances from a 10 second clip.

As for the other ass who posted 90% are corrupt and dicks... sure there are a few but id say 90% are just good guys who want to do there job and go home like everyone else... im sure i could find a few dicks in your line of work to... so i guess that makes you one

Mike 09-07-2008 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich189 (Post 483904)
As for the other ass who posted 90% are corrupt and dicks... sure there are a few but id say 90% are just good guys who want to do there job and go home like everyone else... im sure i could find a few dicks in your line of work to... so i guess that makes you one

its more like 2 or three percent, but its 90% of what makes it to the news.........

01blackz28 09-07-2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by maroman88 (Post 483802)
anyone ever hear of a radio... maybe that cop wasnt the one he was "aiming" for... maybe it was one up the road, that officer radios down to the officer in the video and says "hey grab the guy in the white shirt with the black bag and black shorts"..... you cant make a judgement when u see a 3 second clip on freakin youtube!


NICE tackle too!

The news channel stated that the police officer was trying to run over his fellow officer standing at the opposite side of the street as his defense.
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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 483846)
thats the most ignorant thing i have ever heard, care to show me the survey where you got that statistic?

you do realize they get desk jobs pending internal investigations, and then in many cases do get fired or forced to resign right?

you also realize that with unions as strong as the pba and fop, its impossible to just FIRE someone without an investigation that often takes months?

Must be a cop or someone who is related :moon:
Ofcourse i do expect you to have a bias that all police officers are morally correct. They are aren't they ? or 90% of them are 50 % of the time :idea:

NJSPEEDER 09-07-2008 01:21 PM

I am not a cop and the only officer I am related to lives in way upstate New York and I talk to him about once a year. I am also 34 years old and have done more stupid s*** to earn conversations with cops than you can imagine. The honest truth is that 99% of the cops I have dealt with in my life were cool, even the times that I wasn't being cool to them.

The ones that were dicks about whatever, well, there are a'holes everywhere, in every line of work. That will never change. Hell, I work in a warehouse, a real no pressure job, and there are still people who managed to be all keyed up and create drama everyday. It is just the way some people act.

If the cop was wrong, the investigation will do more to bring the facts light than you ever will by hating on all the good cops that are out there trying to keep your ignorant ass safe.

Mike 09-07-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 01blackz28 (Post 483940)
The news channel stated that the police officer was trying to run over his fellow officer standing at the opposite side of the street as his defense.

Must be a cop or someone who is related :moon:
Ofcourse i do expect you to have a bias that all police officers are morally correct. They are aren't they ? or 90% of them are 50 % of the time :idea:

and you must be a criminal to hate cops so much? or do you think its just cool. grow the **** up and get real information

01blackz28 09-07-2008 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 484001)
and you must be a criminal to hate cops so much? or do you think its just cool. grow the **** up and get real information

hahahahaaha your too much :nod:

sweetbmxrider 09-07-2008 04:48 PM

dude no matter what you say, that was excessive force.

DevilDougWS6 09-07-2008 05:04 PM

i could see if the cop wasnt paying attention and was running over to another officer on the side and was trying to beat the bike out or something...but who knows, it couldve been an accident? oh well, and like njspeeder said, there are ******** in every facet of life, just the ones that become something of authority and abuse it and are ******** on the job, which is EXTREMELY unprofessional. Police are supposed to be looked up to, but you got tough guy gangsters that hate police because they are obviously doing something wrong and/or illegal. and then you got young kids that think they are hardcore and say "**** tha po po" that are just trying to be cool.


EDIT: nevermind i just watched it again and it looks like he just ran for the guy. just goes to show you why a lot of people disrespect police, like this dingbat. eventually people will stop trusting police and we are royally ****ED if that happens. your car would be gone and not a damn thing would be done about it. think about that for a bit all the police haters out there.

LTb1ow 09-07-2008 05:07 PM

In the end, that biker got owned.

Mike 09-07-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 01blackz28 (Post 484006)
hahahahaaha your too much :nod:

how am i too much? you came on and posted an obscene and inaccurate statistic and i asked you to tell me where you got that number, or what real life experience you have to give you that number. i NEVER said i think everyones perfect, i see corrupt ******** every day at work, but its a small percentage of the people that do it.

so, validate your statements

bubba428 09-07-2008 10:30 PM

GET HIM MIKE!!!!!!!!!!

yo dude...I've been on both sides. when my car was crashed the police badgered me for almost an hour while I was laying drunk, broken and bloody in a stretcher. threatened to put me in jail and charge me with drunk driving. the whole 9. yea that 1 cop was a dick, but now i'm on the other side. I do impounding in Atlantic City, and I run some ROUGH 'hoods, I'm glad to see the police every time just to know they're there. I was dispatching the other night and we impounded a bank robber's (wanted for 4 armed robberies in 3 cities) stolen car. I had 4 cops there for 2 hours and they checked in every 1/2 after that. say that guy decided he wanted his car back for free...he could have easily just shot me and taken it. anyway moral of the story I love having the police around 99% of the cops I've dealt with (and its A LOT!) are cool guys/girls, most of them are no different than you or I. but just like group of people theres a few asswipes that give them a bad name, and they seem to draw the most attention.

bubba428 09-07-2008 10:32 PM

on topic..that was a bad ass shoulder...hippy got OWNED!!!

Knipps 09-07-2008 11:03 PM

I'm not taking sides because I don't know the whole story but it definitely looks like the officer pushes the guy off the bike.. Had he been running or anything else IMO he would have stumbled a lot more (and not been looking at the guy on the bike the whole time. You can see the badge on his hat the entire time.)

That and there's a pretty distinctive pushing motion with his arms :lol:

bubba428 09-07-2008 11:44 PM

that was intentional...no doubt...but I hate protesters so yea(thats my right too)

r0nin89 09-09-2008 10:14 PM

This seems very similar to the scenario where the cop shot the drunk driver that fled while he was being dragged by the vehicle. Everyone screams brutality this, rediculous that, until the story is actually told and I hate to be using a percentage or decimal or fraction here because of above statistic article but 9 times out of 10 the cops actions are well justified.

Anyway believe it or not it does look like he tripped. Theres no way in hell he would just go striding at the guy like the slowmo shows just to lay him out for no reason.

01blackz28 09-09-2008 10:20 PM

Dude how are you going to compare this video to a cop who had to defend himself by shooting somebody. I don't know how much more there can be to the story. They said the bicyclist didn't get any charges pressed against him. So yea guys there must be a whole lot more to the story right ? WRONG

Blacdout96 09-09-2008 11:06 PM

Psh, now i know where McCain is getting his voters, the same people who think this cop actually tripped, while your at it, I got a 1983 Corvette for sale real cheap.

The cop not only was looking atthe guy about 3 seconds before impact, but you see he begins to stride faster to elbow him off the bike. I dont care what his reason is, he did that intentionally.

r0nin89 09-09-2008 11:15 PM

I wasnt saying that it couldnt have been intentional. I simply said if it wasnt he must have tripped due to him striding like that.

And whats the McCain comment for? Yeah if I was registered I would vote for McCain. I'm certainly not going to vote for someone who wont recite the pledge of allegiance and doesnt believe in this country. But that ok if you want to be suckered into the whole "I'm a racist if I dont show my support for a black candidate" garbage than feel free. But if he wins I'll be pointing a finger at you when we're paying $5.00 a gallon for gas because he decided to axe drilling and tax corporations for more.....

And seriously the magnitude of my comparison between the cop who shot the drunk driver and this scenario is completely relevant. They both consist of a scenario where a cops actions where deemed unacceptable at first given limited information.

AS I said 9 times out of 10. So heres your 1, minority event if it is true there was nothing to provoke the push.

Knipps 09-10-2008 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 485341)
Psh, now i know where McCain is getting his voters, the same people who think this cop actually tripped, while your at it, I got a 1983 Corvette for sale real cheap.

The cop not only was looking atthe guy about 3 seconds before impact, but you see he begins to stride faster to elbow him off the bike. I dont care what his reason is, he did that intentionally.

Why do you feel the need to troll?

bubba428 09-10-2008 11:16 AM

I can clearly see that was intentional....and I'm voting for McCain....whats your point?

Tru2Chevy 09-10-2008 03:58 PM

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