Oh yea, :( no fun at all NJ, no fun. And I have pacesetters, no problems with mine at all.

yeah i think i got a bad batch but i would still pay a little more for something decent. i would probably get hookers over pacesetters. but do some researching and see what is best for your heads/cam.

Whatever you decide to do, make sure you get coated headers and know that you will fail inspection with LTs.

yeah haha. whatever you do will cost you more money than you plan

haha so stick with shorties if you wanna pass!

Mids are much better than shorties. Shorties are no better than shiny stock mannys.

i got a bare 96 lt1 block forsale

How much?

ok the hell is the difference between shorties and mids i hear the term thrown around equally? do shorites end at the stock spot? if so then get mids

With mids you will be closer to having a tuned length header, and I think in most cases they will have larger primary s and more importantly larger collectors.

shorties or mids?
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MAC mids.

i have never seen a shorty in my life then....

Shiny stock manifolds.

thats ghey

You have never seen shorties??

what are we talking about now :lol:

hahah who knows, I'm just rambling... but shorties/mids will kill your upper RPM power.

yeah but lowered susp will kill your LT and cats if you do that thing. i had shorties on my truck actually. they made some good noise

Nah, my cats stay either in the trunk or the closet for peak cleaning. :wink: And I have yet to hit anything, the LTs tucked up nicely.

how much are you wanting and is it jsut the block or is anything included?

Sorry to hijack your thread... and if you need help, lemme know, if I am free, I can always use more practice working on LT1s.

my cat catches most everything, sometimes the passenger side portion of the y. i tucked it as much as i could too. well if the honeycomb breaks, it will shoot right out the tailpipes! thank you SLP

yeah sorry bout the hijack, we destroy threads

You should see the underside of mine, all the U clamps have the bolts straight down for best road kill shredding action.

haha np guys interesting read though