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BonzoHansen 10-14-2008 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva (Post 498861)
show me a bar that's not a chain where the OWNER makes over $100k/year in REPORTED salary and I'll show you a liar with a nice side business. I'm not talking about the business profits, i'm talking about the "upper class" owner.

Bars are demographically in the area's they are because people will go to them. there's no one trying to keep anyone down, its people making their own future.

Fixed, lol


Some do, but I agree it is probably rare. But I grew up at the beach where big $$ bars have existed forever. BA, Leggets, Kellys, etc....

NJSPEEDER 10-14-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 498829)
you think people that own bars actually work in em?

I don't know what kind of fancy corporations you think most bars are, but yes, most owners do in fact work in and spend a lot of time in bars. If it is a chain family restaurant/bar type place I would say differently, but the average small business owner is still directly involved in the business. Most bars are independent and certainly require direct owner supervision.

-Tim

Mike 10-14-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 498799)

ever wonder why theres a bar/liquor store on every corner in the less than 'favorable' areas. just upper class america hating on the little man.



this quote coming directly from a cop proves our system is defunct



maybe because a liqueur license takes an 80k property in a bad neighborhood, and makes it worth at least 5 times as much to the city? its not because they want poor people to drink dumb ass its because they want businesses instead of boarded up crack dens

what exactly do you really know about "ghettos"?

Ian 10-14-2008 06:18 PM

so let me get this straight, because there are bars in the "ghetto" the financially less fortunate have to take up drinking? my first year in the work force I made about 21K take home, that sure isnt upper class, hell, it isn't even middle class! so did I park myself at the bar everyday? no, I didn't. would you like to know why I didn't? of course you do.

IT'S BECAUSE MY PARENTS TAUGHT ME BETTER!

Holy crap, what a concept! taking responsibility for one's actions, trying everyday to better yourself and those around you, knowing that life isn't fair but not letting that slow you down. these are the things people need to embrace. don't drag yourself into a life of self pity. don't project blame onto others when it should be placed solely on your own shoulders.

so please dont try to make it seem like "the man" is trying to keep poor people poor. the people stuck in slums are there because of choices they have made themselves.

Teds89IROC 10-14-2008 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 498799)
ever wonder why theres a bar/liquor store on every corner in the less than 'favorable' areas. just upper class america hating on the little man.

:lol: :rofl:

DevilDougWS6 10-14-2008 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian (Post 498943)
so let me get this straight, because there are bars in the "ghetto" the financially less fortunate have to take up drinking? my first year in the work force I made about 21K take home, that sure isnt upper class, hell, it isn't even middle class! so did I park myself at the bar everyday? no, I didn't. would you like to know why I didn't? of course you do.

IT'S BECAUSE MY PARENTS TAUGHT ME BETTER!

Holy crap, what a concept! taking responsibility for one's actions, trying everyday to better yourself and those around you, knowing that life isn't fair but not letting that slow you down. these are the things people need to embrace. don't drag yourself into a life of self pity. don't project blame onto others when it should be placed solely on your own shoulders.

so please dont try to make it seem like "the man" is trying to keep poor people poor. the people stuck in slums are there because of choices they have made themselves.

exactly what he said. i would NEVER contemplate suicide. i never go down without a hell of a fight. my parents taught me to be self reliant, if i **** up, oh well, i learn from my mistakes and move on. i dont sit around crying because i lost money, ill find out why and FIX IT. i will NEVER kill myself over something so stupid.

BTW Mike which facility do you work at? one of the ones on Ft. Dix?


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