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TurboDiverArt 11-03-2008 05:18 AM

I haven't heard of anything that you pour into your tank. Sounds like snake oil to me.

sweetbmxrider 11-03-2008 09:09 AM

there is stuff out there like "guaranteed to pass" you have to run it through a full tank of super and yada yada. i don't really see it helping him any.

91chevywt 11-03-2008 10:20 AM

You are running rich, or timing is too retarded. high HC, high CO, low NOx = running rich or timing too retarded. EGR wouldn't help you, its main purpose is to reduce NOx. I'd bet if you could bump up timing or lean it out you would see a drastic change.

Hydro Carbons = unburned fuel

sweetbmxrider 11-03-2008 10:52 AM

probably from the cam

WildBillyT 11-03-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 506127)
there is stuff out there like "guaranteed to pass" you have to run it through a full tank of super and yada yada. i don't really see it helping him any.

I am not sure if GTP is safe with O2 sensors.

When the car was taken to inspection, was it properly warmed up? If the cat is not in the stock location and you don't have the stock emissions equipment it may not be getting hot enough to work properly.

sweetbmxrider 11-03-2008 11:00 AM

got me :shrug: i'd read the bottle first.

tcbnj 11-13-2008 12:20 PM

My junk is a 95 Formula 6 speed inspected on Nov 1 and it passed; it has ~ 55,000 miles. Prior to inspection I used the "Guaranteed to Pass" solution as well as changed the oil. I probably idled 30 minutes waiting to get through the inspection line in Wayne.

Significant Mods are limited Kooks LT and cats, 1.6 crane rockers, K&N Filtercharger and a TTP tune using LT1 Edit

Reading from the inspection report:

NOx standard = 879, reading = 650

HC standard = 117, reading = 54

CO standard = .65, reading = .05

Two years ago prior to engine mods the inspection report reading:

NOx standard = 879, reading = 289

HC standard = 117, reading = 10

CO standard = .65, reading = zero

I think the reason the readings got worse was due to cooler cats. The headers push the cats further from the engine, there are now 2 cats vs. 1 and there is more overall tubing than stock which I assume is decreasing the cat's operating temps.

Your emission problem may also be due to running a cooler thermostat.

Hope this helps

z28rob18 11-13-2008 01:32 PM

"do it legal or don't do it at all."
thats quite stupid everyone knows that in nj u cant build a car to lay down some BA numbers and drive home and do it legally. i dont see how im ever gonna pass. im buildin a stroker and the cam will be alot bigger then the one he just failed wit plannin on a 234/242 .612/.612 lift guess ill figure it all out wen the time comes.

sweetbmxrider 11-13-2008 02:46 PM

thats what drag strips are for. good luck

LTb1ow 11-13-2008 03:09 PM

And strokers eat up a bit more cam than stock, so you may be able to tame it enough to pass. Run mids for inspection, get a GOOD cat, random tech comes to mind.Or the heavy metal series. Get a good tune, make sure its all warm and toasty before inspection and don't give em a reason to blatantly fail you.

NJSPEEDER 11-14-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by z28rob18 (Post 510329)
"do it legal or don't do it at all."
thats quite stupid everyone knows that in nj u cant build a car to lay down some BA numbers and drive home and do it legally. .

Really? I seem to see a lot of cars that are inspected, insured, and carry full street equipment at the track belting out serious numbers. All it takes is some attention to putting together a properly matched and tuned combination instead of going in and just hacking things to pieces and hoping for the best.

With how tunable the computers are and with how little actual interference to performance there is from nearly all emissions equipment, it is very easy to drive a fast car on the street legally.

-Tim

Featherburner 11-14-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER (Post 510670)
Really? I seem to see a lot of cars that are inspected, insured, and carry full street equipment at the track belting out serious numbers. All it takes is money and a lot of it, some attention to putting together a properly matched and tuned combination instead of going in and just hacking things to pieces and hoping for the best.

With how tunable the computers are and with how little actual interference to performance there is from nearly all emissions equipment, it is very easy to drive a fast car on the street legally.

-Tim

Fixed.

NJSPEEDER 11-14-2008 04:25 PM

I would say that applies to going fast with or without a street car. lol

z28rob18 11-14-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER (Post 510719)
I would say that applies to going fast with or without a street car. lol

agree wit that lol but i dont see it as easy as you just put it to make it totally legal and there wont be any hacking goin on i just dont see the car being capable to pass after this project

NJSPEEDER 11-14-2008 05:02 PM

Get yourself a vacuum reference fuel pressure regulator to reduce fuel flow at idle and have someone take care of the tuning that will put the time into making it right, JSPerformance is good for this kind of thing. You may still have to buy two tunes, one for inspection and one for power.

Keep a catted y-pipe around for inspection and leave the AIR and EGR in place for appearances during inspection if nothing else. They can be programmed out of function, but you at least need it to look like they are there, since the car will have an obvious idle they will likely look much closer at it than the average car rolling through the center.

It is doable and really not all that impractical to get a built car through inspection.

-Tim

Slow96LT1 11-14-2008 06:05 PM

just buy a sticker it easier and cheaper

sweetbmxrider 11-14-2008 06:23 PM

2011 is a new sticker and will introduce a new program. there will no longer be a print out for the month, rather a month insert number. good luck buying those :wink:

LTb1ow 11-14-2008 06:24 PM

Where theres a will, theres a way.

sweetbmxrider 11-14-2008 06:32 PM

yeah or state forgery. i forget how that one goes :lol:

FIcamaroRE92 11-14-2008 08:12 PM

I dont get it? a month insert number?????? like a special sticker that goes over the month?

sweetbmxrider 11-14-2008 09:23 PM

its a new inspection sticker with an actual sticker for the month. like new car dealer stickers.

BonzoHansen 11-14-2008 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 510806)
its a new inspection sticker with an actual sticker for the month. like new car dealer stickers.

That is how it used to be. You got stickers for the year and added the month, which were also stickers (sometimes just paper).

FIcamaroRE92 11-14-2008 09:34 PM

ohhhhhhh I get you now, someone will find away to get around it.........

sweetbmxrider 11-14-2008 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 510808)
That is how it used to be. You got stickers for the year and added the month, which were also stickers (sometimes just paper).

do you remember back when they punched out the month, going around the perimeter of the sticker? its a terrible system they are changing to. gunna be fun the first year. a whole bunch of bs behind it too and stupid crap that doesn't make sense. well thats NJ, a clusterf!*#

Slow96LT1 11-15-2008 10:15 AM

the streets will still get them (new stickers) or just drive without it


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