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So when I put my LTs on and left the EGR there with the tubing just chillen in the atmoshpere, what is that doing then? The tube on the drivers side i hear sucking air in, not sure bout the pass. side. 93 LT1 car.
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Exhaust gas is inert and doesn't burn like air/fuel. EGR comes on at cruise and puts a layer of inert gas in the cylinder which in turn allows less room for air/fuel mix which means a smaller flame which in turn lowers combustion chamber temps and NOx emissions. This is pretty much the reason it only comes on at cruise, and will stall a car if it opens at idle. This is how I understood it in school. It offers no performance benefit with it there or not there so long as it is functioning properly.
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performance = no gain really
basically just a less cluttered engine bay/weight reduction...i removed it on my mustang because it was stuck |
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Yet another mod myth, like taking out a cat on a relatively stock car.
No perf gain, harder to pass inspection. Lovely. :cbrrmike: where can I buy a sticker? :cbrrmike: |
Ok cool, I guess that makes sense. And ditching your cat is like 50hp!
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can a car still pass with out an egr or will it automaticly fail emissions with out one ?
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hmm wonder if there is a way to put an egr in an intake that isnt made for one just so i can get this car to pass. its gona be hard enough passing the new v8 as a v6 lol
do they even actualy do visual checks ? iv never had one done or seen them do one |
last time i ran through inspection in august they made me pop the hood. The guy was looking pretty thoroughly so im guessing thats what he was looking for
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Both are just chillen open cuz my LTs. |
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4th gen LS1 cars- 98-00 located on the front of the intake, plug it and then get it tuned out. or even better- buy a LS6 intake and tune the egr code out and if u bought a 01-02, there is no egr |
I wonder what GM did to remove EGR on the newwer cars?
I always thought that EGR was to return a small amount of exhaust gas into the chamber to help recombust unburnt fuel, as well as lower emissions. |
My 04 Avalanche has federal emissions and has no AIR or EGR. The Same 04 Avalanche with California Emissons has EGR and AIR. Im not sure what they did to add or delete it. Its gotta be in the programming somehow.
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My guess is a combination of electronics and engine design. They figured how to make is pass fed regs w/less parts.
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That because Gm learned that in certain engine applications using camshafts with more valve overlap when the Intake and Exhaust valves are partially open at the same time can Lower Emission's.
Same Reason and situation with why the LS-1's in 2001 no longer used EGR Systems the LQ4 Vortec truck cam had more advance, less timing and the camshaft had more overlap which in turn created lower emission's. |
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If you hear air out of that pipe you probably have issues = vacuum or exhaust leak. you should probably delete the EGR and AIR fitting from the back on the manifold. If you leave the relay connected it should not throw a code. http://shbox.com/1/1993_air_egr.jpg |
oh got ya! thanks for clearing that up.
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