Fixed. The dealers do it, not Chevy. They have no control.

wow James, as Jim said, we were just there in the afternoon :lol: But yea, unbelievable how much they marked it up, we couldn't believe it. They had a silver RS sitting inside the showroom and another red one in the service center, couldn't see if it was an SS though. Aside from the ridiculous mark-up, it was nice seeing one in person next to other cars. It doesn't look ridiculously huge.

Didnt know we had to be so literal around here...Its a Chevy dealer there Chevy...im well aware its not a corperate hike lol.

LOL, you'd be surprised how many people don't know that.

They offer the dealer a kick back in any incentive program. GM offers it, but the dealer doesnt have to follow the program. But when you are the only one not offering the deal...how can you sell cars?
In the end, Camaro and other high visual vehicles withstanding, most cars sit on lots for an average of 100 days. Getting rid of thoes cars helps.
If somehow all GM cars become super popular, people beating down the doors to buy them, without incentive programs, there would be no such thing as employee pricing.
It is illegal for GM to dictate price. Though this whole Chap 11 has given GM new life in dealer negotiations. While its still illegal to price fix, GM sure can beat up some dealers here and there.

they can and do beat on the dealers. if they find out the dealer is marking cars up an exorbitant amount, and GM is closing dealerships... while GM pulling out of a dealership doesn't necessarily put that dealer out of business (ie, Ocean Chevy, Jeep, GMC and T&C Lincoln all in the same dealership) it will hurt a dealer to lose the front-runner in its line-up of cars. they won't sell them any more cars and won't allow them the license to advertise as a GM dealership, and then comes the signage and all of the support documents, POS displays, etc. so a dealer will get hit in the wallet, no matter how they try to spin it. and GM can call their markers in all at once, too, which causes a tailspin in the back room. and the dealer can only request certain cars be sent to them, but in the end the manufacturer is the one who makes the decision on what to send them. this is why the dealers are getting v6 cars first... imagine being a chevy dealer and NOT getting even one camaro for your lot (hmmm, Ocean Chevy...) and having to wait until the price storm settles to get one to sell and having to take a hit on each and every car you do sell (less than MSRP).

please know to separate the dealer from the manufacturer. and know that MSRP stands for Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price... it's up to the dealer to fix the retail price. if the dealer can sell them for $5k over, then that's what the price will be. sooner or later they won't be able to sell them at that price any more, and that's when Jim will buy a new camaro. :mrgreen: remember the GTO?

Why is everyone getting their panties in an uproar? :?: The simple solution is don't buy it now. Wait a few months and they'll be giving them away when the supply catches up with the demand. :nod: