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LTb1ow 08-23-2009 04:22 PM

Is there some shred of truth behind that picture of obama not being a public stock image?

sweetbmxrider 08-23-2009 04:41 PM

no but he does wear make up

WildBillyT 08-23-2009 05:42 PM

Hmm. Here's how I see it. If you own a server or web site, you control the **** that's on it. Since you OWN it. Just because you allow other people to come on and post their images or messages does not mean that they have any rights about what is allowed. The nice thing to do is to let stuff stay, but you don't have to.

Free speech protects you in public. You can stand on the street and say whatever you want. On the Internet, it's not "public" even though anyone can see what's up there. You are always on somebody's server, which is somebody's property.

BigAls87Z28 08-23-2009 07:50 PM

Are you ****in serious? You think that soemoen taking down the picture of Obama is bad?
How about being imprisoned without being granted basic civil rights?
How about havign yoru privacy invaded well above and beyond just for the sake of "freedom?"
Please...dont trump **** up that shouldnt be. The new CIA director investigated the Bush's administrations actions into tapping phone calls, emails, and other communications, and it was much worse then even he had figured.

And another thing. I used to bring up Bush here all the time, how he put this country into a **** storm unmatched by anything prior, and it used to get locked.
But we can mock Obama as the "Messaih" and that doesnt get locked?

Obama is going to rape yoru family, kill your dog, take away your guns, make you pay for illegal immigrants babies, and have total control over american business.
Get The **** Out. Seriously you people need to relax and stop having panic attacks.

Obama has put restrictions on money that Bush gave to banks and the automakers.
Obama has supported the middle class by making sure millions of middle class workers that are caught in the middle arent buffalo ****ed like they have been for the last 8 years by allowing preditory lending, and then sending thier children into a war unprovoked, dying for a thing that never came to be.
Over the past 8 years, republicans have stood by thier man as he ravaged the middle east, invaded a soverign nation unprovoked, while he led the American public around by the nose on the world of "Freedom" and "Saftey".
********. I have my qualms about Obama, but most of you are tearing down anything he could possibly do to help this country on its feet, all because of his political affiliation.

Case in point.
Democrats wanetd 4 billion for CARS/Cash for Clunkers. The republicans took away all but a billion, and said make tha twork for a month.
Then the same republicans want to mock the Dems for not being far-sighted, and asking for more money when the massive pent up demand for cars surged and every dealer was being flooded by every day working people trying to buy a new car, but coudlnt because of the economic **** storm that a republican house, senate, and president let happen without a single urging of Americans being conserviative in thier spending.
Isnt that what a Republican is?
Instead, they worred about spending billions in "emergency funding" for the wars in Iraq and Afganastan.
I dont think that Obama gives two ****s about a picture. The man clearly has bigger things to worry about, like making sure that this country, even with sucha hatred for a man they dont know, gets back on their feet.

LTb1ow 08-23-2009 07:58 PM

Deficit good yes?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/AP-sou...2&asset=&ccode

Winz for dems.

BigAls87Z28 08-23-2009 08:00 PM

Also, no one had problems when the goverment was giving back 600 dollars in a tax rebate, but when the goverment wants to spur an industry, while at the same time decrease the number of poluting vehicles on the road, as well as reduce our dependance on foreign oil, by giving out money, people start to bitch about thier tax dollars being spent.
I know that Im happy as hell that my tax dollars took 4500 of my new Malibu.


Yes, all that was because of the dems, not the trillions of dollars being poured into a war with no end game, no exit plan, and another war that is becoming worse by they day.

Obama didnt give trillions of dollars to the banks or the automakers.
Obama didnt blow trillions of dollars in two wars, while winning neither
Obama has to fix the **** storm left by the former president. He's been at the job for 8 months, and things are looking to be a lot better now then it did 12 months ago.
Please...dont put 9 trillion dollars on the shoulders of Obama.
Remember that 9 years ago, we were running a surplus of money....

LTb1ow 08-23-2009 08:01 PM

But then you pay that back in taxes and or us being owned by China...


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