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Featherburner 08-24-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 69Novaguy (Post 629171)
a grand, the guy took the interior out of it because his vette caught fire lol. its an awesome deal for a motor and trans with 44k on it.(im getting it from one of my dads buddies)

After selling the trans and rear, the engine should be free or close to it. That's a good deal IMO.

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 629317)
I as well thought about a C4 transaxle conversion into the camaro. I do autocross, so it might be nice to have IRS, even though the C4's have some geometry issue's.

C4 didn't have a transaxle, did it? Transaxle started with the C5, no?

Blacdout96 08-24-2009 07:56 PM

Sorry, used to saying that too much, no they aren't transaxles, just IRS systems.

V 08-25-2009 05:41 AM

http://www.pro-touring.com/waynedue/...rd_project.htm

Lt1_8U 08-25-2009 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokingSS (Post 629549)

thats a badass setup

BonzoHansen 08-25-2009 07:59 AM

Wayne Due is out of business.

Blacdout96 08-25-2009 08:09 AM

Isnt a Dana 44 out of a Viper? that's way too rich for my blood. another thing about vette is the track, whats it for C4 and C5 rears compared to Camaro's. My concern would be my 11" rims in the rear not fitting in the back.

WildBillyT 08-25-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 629568)
Isnt a Dana 44 out of a Viper? that's way too rich for my blood. another thing about vette is the track, whats it for C4 and C5 rears compared to Camaro's. My concern would be my 11" rims in the rear not fitting in the back.

Dana 36 was 1984, Dana 44 was 1985-96.

To drag this I think you would need 3 driveshaft loops.

Blacdout96 08-25-2009 08:29 AM

But I don't drag race, I autocross, it would be perfect for me, but I'd rather not try to sort out the C4's over/understeer. What the track dimensions though, anybody know?

V 08-25-2009 08:31 AM

i was just showing that it is possible. i had seen a 4th gen with the swap done but i couldnt find any links, that was years ago.

BonzoHansen 08-25-2009 08:36 AM

I know Paul, just adding that in case anyone was going to research him.

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 629575)
But I don't drag race, I autocross, it would be perfect for me, but I'd rather not try to sort out the C4's over/understeer. What the track dimensions though, anybody know?

I don't understand, wouldn't you have to sort out over/understeer (setup) for any car?

WildBillyT 08-25-2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 629579)
I know Paul, just adding that in case anyone was going to research him.



I don't understand, wouldn't you have to sort out over/understeer (setup) for any car?

If it still has similar problems as the C3's, it has camber issues.

BonzoHansen 08-25-2009 08:39 AM

What does that mean?

Blacdout96 08-25-2009 08:45 AM

C4 rears had it especially because of the geometry when you brake into a corner, I forget the exact problems, but when you decelerate, the centerline for the suspension is raised too high, and has a tendency to snap the rear, and also changes the camber drastically. granted doing a swap like this would certainly need alot of custom parts, meaning theres no kit that could automatically correct it, hell you could install it right and still have the bad geometry. It's just that I havent heard alot of neg. feedback on C5 IRS sysytems, which would probably don't have alot of the problems the C4 rears had. Once again, even using a rear like that, applying it to our cars could change the geometry.

Edit: Bill beat me to it lol

WildBillyT 08-25-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 629584)
What does that mean?

In the 63-82 setup the bottom strut rod is mounted in rubber, so it can "lengthen" during hard cornering and introduces positive camber. And I think that there is also some positive camber introduced when the driveline wears, since the half shafts are the upper control arms. This is why a lot of C2 and C3 guys install "smart struts" which are rod ended adjustable control arms, like adjustable LCAs in a 4th gen just mounted sideways.

BonzoHansen 08-25-2009 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 629587)
In the 63-82 setup the bottom strut rod is mounted in rubber, so it can "lengthen" during hard cornering and introduces positive camber. And I think that there is also some positive camber introduced when the driveline wears, since the half shafts are the upper control arms. This is why a lot of C2 and C3 guys install "smart struts" which are rod ended adjustable control arms, like adjustable LCAs in a 4th gen just mounted sideways.

Oh, ok, oe part issues. That sounds like it can be at least partially overcome with better parts.

WildBillyT 08-25-2009 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 629595)
Oh, ok, oe part issues. That sounds like it can be at least partially overcome with better parts.

Partially, yes. Wheelhop is also an issue if you have a lot of torque, and the traction bar for the C3 IRS welds to the bottom of the car so you lose some more ground clearance.

BonzoHansen 08-25-2009 09:16 AM

C3s have transverse leafs? Do C4s?

WildBillyT 08-25-2009 09:23 AM

Yes, but it was a composite mono.

Tru2Chevy 08-25-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 629600)
C3s have transverse leafs? Do C4s?

Yes, C5 and C6 have it too.

- Justin

BonzoHansen 08-25-2009 09:33 AM

what is a good site to learn about vettes?

Tru2Chevy 08-25-2009 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 629608)
what is a good site to learn about vettes?

www.corvetteforum.com
www.corvetteforums.com

- Justin

V 08-25-2009 09:39 AM

i cant stand the majority of corvette owners... 100% original or they consider you the devil

Blacdout96 08-25-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokingSS (Post 629612)
i cant stand the majority of corvette owners... 100% original or they consider you the devil

QFT :rofl:

Had a guy come in here tellign me he no longer goes to corvette shows with his car cause they like to pick it apart. god for bid you upgrade or show your taste in a performance car.

V 08-25-2009 10:26 AM

im seriously considering putting my dodge ram diesel Cummins 12v in my 79 vette.... with a bunch of diesel upgrades of course...

Blacdout96 08-25-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokingSS (Post 629625)
im seriously considering putting my dodge ram diesel Cummins 12v in my 79 vette.... with a bunch of diesel upgrades of course...

You do that, and I'll be morethen happy to help, I'd love to se the faces of the vette owners when you roll up.

I know it was gaudy (it was my frineds car and didint wantt oput a dime in it when he was done) I assisted my friend with that cumstang my friend had. traded it so I don't knwo what happened with it, but it was fun to do that, adn always turns heads.


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