Sorry to hear that...we are hoping for the best for you.

FYI...Hyundia is still running...it's out @ Penn Tech in Williamsport...

Thank you everybody.

I've been keeping a daily log regarding pain etc. and the damn long is getting pretty long

I've had lots of surgery so I know that once they open you up, it's never the same.

I've been looking at all possible things besides surgery..... I REALLY don't want it.....but if it has to be done, and every other option is exhausted, then I'll do it.

unfortunately my friend i think surgery is inevitable

pain killers ehh you'll only end up addicted to them and still be in pain

that is too true. the doctor suggested, since i've been on the same family of painkillers for 10 years, that i go check out one of the new rehab places. they get you off the narcotics and throw a bunch of therapies at you. i am not sure what all is involved, but i can tell you that anything is better than being physically addicted to your meds.

i knew you were checking everything out, but wanted to bring that stuff up just in case you are not thinking too clearly. i have my days when i am lucky to remember my own name, ferchrissakes.

so, yeah, i hope everything works out and you don't have to have surgery. if you do, remember that physical therapy is your friend. you call it a bunch of names because it hurts so much, and some days you don't even feel like going, but it is your friend. in your case, a solid recovery is paramount.