Ahahah sneaky sneaky... :rofl:

Nice edit Justin :rofl:

You guys can make all the clown car jokes you want (within reason), but please keep the Left vs. Right discussions out. :moon:

- Justin

I'm in no way saying we need to make laws on how many kids we can each have. But some common sense would be nice. Or, why not adopt so kids who truly need parents can have two loving parents? Obviously not forcing them to do anything, but why not adopt instead? It's almost selfish that they must be biological rather than adopting them.

And will they have that much of an impact on social services in the future, or our resources, maybe not, but how can we know? Why should we take the chance? And now she's older (over 40), raising the chances dramatically of her children having birth defects...which will also add strain to the already taxed social services system if that becomes the case.

On a less serious note: Where the hell do they find the time to have sex in order to procreate? (Not saying that's bad, just wondering how they can raise 18 kids at once and still have time for extra curriculars)

Absolutely, I never mentioned a side...nor will I. I know the rules. :)

He started it! :lol:

Um, at which point and time did I say they [/HAD] to adopt kids, I said they could of, which last time I checked is a form of saying you made a decision. don't believe me, let's take a look back at my post.


Nope, don't see anything saying they should of been forced to. :rollseye:

The older kids practically raise the younger kids themselves. Mom only seems to really take care of the young babies.

And I ended it.... :nod:

- Justin

But see, that's the beautiful thing about personal choice. They have the right to chose whether or not they want to have their own kids or adopt. While it might not jive with our beliefs they're not hurting anyone. If we lived by "what ifs" then every one of our lives would be different. If we lived by "what ifs" then we wouldn't have the technology, freedoms and standards of living we have today.

...and yeah...dude must be a 30 second man because I don't see how they have time for any more than that. :rofl:

Okkk, I said they were under no obligation...where did I say that you claimed they had to?

Sure it would've been nice if adopted, but they opted not to...people need to get over it and worry about REAL issues.

Exactly what I was thinking, use that phrase all the time.


Definitely agree with that. A 15 year old girl down the street had a baby since "it was the only way to keep her family moving away from the boyfriend"

Anchor baby FTW!

You're right, they chose this. Fine. And I don't agree with it, fine.

But I can guarantee they will somehow hurt someone in the future. No idea how, but I'm sure we'll hear of it in a few years, maybe not until 20 years from now...but somehow, they will hurt someone (and I don't necessarily mean one person).

And if we didn't play the what if game, we might actually be further technology wise, medically especially, since we play the what ifs with stem cells: "But what if they are really a life immediately at conception and we kill them to do stem cell research?" What ifs are how we make decisions as a society. We have to ask them in order to figure out what we deem the "right" decision to be in nearly every decision we make.

haha:lol:

Then why are you still posting here? sound's like you're not over what peopel have to say about this. maybe you should make an example out of us and not post here anymore.

and what important issues are there to talk about, this is a car forum, not exactly CNN.

didn't you know? we're all just supposed to ignore the important issues and pretend the world is peachy. God forbid CNN had something bad politically on their homepage, or that even matters worth a damn

No left vs right stuff. Again.

Censorship!!!!!!!

lol, ok tough guy :rolleyes: I was merely throwing in my opinion and you get all huffy when someone doesn't agree with you. What I meant regarding worry about REAL issues is that people are all up in arms over someone going overboard with kids. That's what I meant.

I noticed you skipped over the part where you made yourself look bad.

Telling me not to post here because I don't agree with your opinion is really mature, lol.

I meant by the "what if" in regards to those kids having a burden on society. By your theory then we should all stop having kids because they might burden society in some way. Obviously the chances that happening is greater with 19 kids. :rofl: I think they're psycho religious nuts that don't believe in contraception, if I remember correctly the older kids have/are waiting for marriage to have sex so you can see where their mindset is.

You bring up a good point with the stem cells but they don't take them from dead embryos anymore, they can get them from the umbilical cord. I fully support that type of research provided kids are being kills for the cells(which isn't happening). It could really help us in the future.

Not public domain!!!!!!

Yup....this is a privately owned page, and we can make any rules we want. Get over it....

Back on topic

- Justin

Yeah, cord blood harvesting and storage are gaining in popularity.

...yeah but for some reason the religious right is still up in arms about it :rolleyes: Can't please everyone I guess.

damn sorry I forgot to stick a smile or an "lol" in there....was a joke guys...you also kinda proved my point but that's beside the point :rock:

as a guy that had a gf that had a kid previously from another relationship once before i can say this with 100 percent personal conviction....



i couldnt adopt or be responsible for a child that isnt mine. that being said. im sure that family has their own reasons for not adopting.





either way....it must be kinda neat to live in a household that has that much love in it :nod: