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Blacdout96 11-06-2009 09:58 AM

I just find it odd, the Police now come out with a statement knowing he was goign onto the muslim sites this didn't raising any suspision? regardless if he was in the military or not, you think they would of watched him, and alerted his superior to keep an eye on him.

Frosty 11-06-2009 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Saitin (Post 651566)
keep watching the TV cause every one knows that everything on the TV is right

Every report I read said he converted to Islam. To me that makes no difference at this point. Until the truth comes out he was a soldier that lost his mind....until reports say otherwise his religion had nothing to do with it...but he is in fact Muslim.

Frosty 11-06-2009 12:33 PM

I'm on a bunch of different boards/news sites and an incident like this is bringing out the idiots. They're saying that we should round up any and all Muslims and people of Arab descent and put them in camps like we did with the Japanese in WW2...really? People are idiots. These are also the same people that whine about how Obama and his cronies pretty much think the Constitution is a joke(which they have a point) but they're will to ignore it in this case? Gimme a ****ing break. Of course I've been labeled as a bleeding heart liberal now which is funny because that's the furthest thing from the truth. Oh well, I guess looking at the big picture and using some common sense is foolish.

LTb1ow 11-06-2009 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 651631)
I'm on a bunch of different boards/news sites and an incident like this is bringing out the idiots. They're saying that we should round up any and all Muslims and people of Arab descent and put them in camps like we did with the Japanese in WW2...really? People are idiots. These are also the same people that whine about how Obama and his cronies pretty much think the Constitution is a joke(which they have a point) but they're will to ignore it in this case? Gimme a ****ing break. Of course I've been labeled as a bleeding heart liberal now which is funny because that's the furthest thing from the truth. Oh well, I guess looking at the big picture and using some common sense is foolish.

People will do the strangest things out of desperation. Can't do much about it.

Z28 Heritage 11-06-2009 12:37 PM

Theres another shoot out! Put on CNN.

NastyEllEssWon 11-06-2009 12:39 PM

http://www.kdvr.com/os-shooting-repo...,1041797.story




shootout in orlando happening right now




and another weird news story

http://news.aol.com/article/four-mor...anthony/751003

Z28 Heritage 11-06-2009 12:39 PM

This is Kick *ss! 2 in a row cant beat that!

Frosty 11-06-2009 12:40 PM

I just don't understand people. I mean, we all go through **** times in our lives...hell this is probably the worst stretch for me..ever(you wouldn't know by the way I act) but I'd never, EVER think about grabbing a gun and shooting up a place. Maybe a select few people(lol) but never randomly.

Z28 Heritage 11-06-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 651637)
I just don't understand people. I mean, we all go through **** times in our lives...hell this is probably the worst stretch for me..ever(you wouldn't know by the way I act) but I'd never, EVER think about grabbing a gun and shooting up a place. Maybe a select few people(lol) but never randomly.

I'm with you man i would never do a random shooting. I have a list who i would go after lol.

LTb1ow 11-06-2009 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 651637)
I just don't understand people. I mean, we all go through **** times in our lives...hell this is probably the worst stretch for me..ever(you wouldn't know by the way I act) but I'd never, EVER think about grabbing a gun and shooting up a place. Maybe a select few people(lol) but never randomly.

Yea... just at a basic level, if you fail at life, shoot yourself for gods sake. Don't ruin other people's lives out of some self pity, woe is me sob fest.

jims69camaro 11-06-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 92camarodude (Post 651639)
I'm with you man i would never do a random shooting. I have a list who i would go after lol.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/new...61257528695981

seems like he had some targets in mind.

Z28 Heritage 11-06-2009 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro (Post 651651)
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/new...61257528695981

seems like he had some targets in mind.

Well i hope he got the ones he wanted Jk. But still somthing really had have got too him. Every one gets to the point of killing but we never do.

jims69camaro 11-06-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LTs1ow (Post 651642)
Yea... just at a basic level, if you fail at life, shoot yourself for gods sake. Don't ruin other people's lives out of some self pity, woe is me sob fest.

i agree.

however, some people's minds break. it's not rational to pick up a firearm, point it at another human being and pull the trigger. they do tons of stuff in the military to desensitize you to that so that when the time comes you don't even hesitate, you just pull the trigger. so for a soldier, it's not that big of a leap to get from "everything's ok" to "say hello to my little friend".

they are blaming the first shooting on the fact that his car got keyed and his bumper sticker, written in arabic, was vandalized. how people can be so thoughtless of another human's feelings, in this day and age, having gone through the whole "political correctness" era, is beyond me.

for people to scream that we should round them up and put them in camps is not that hard to believe. these are the same people that think "megan's law" and laws like it, including banning certain firearms, make them feel more safe and secure. even after the wakeup call that was 9/11.

my wife and i just started discussing living in florida. i guess no place is safe, anymore.

Z28 Heritage 11-06-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro (Post 651658)
i agree.

however, some people's minds break. it's not rational to pick up a firearm, point it at another human being and pull the trigger. they do tons of stuff in the military to desensitize you to that so that when the time comes you don't even hesitate, you just pull the trigger. so for a soldier, it's not that big of a leap to get from "everything's ok" to "say hello to my little friend".

they are blaming the first shooting on the fact that his car got keyed and his bumper sticker, written in arabic, was vandalized. how people can be so thoughtless of another human's feelings, in this day and age, having gone through the whole "political correctness" era, is beyond me.

for people to scream that we should round them up and put them in camps is not that hard to believe. these are the same people that think "megan's law" and laws like it, including banning certain firearms, make them feel more safe and secure. even after the wakeup call that was 9/11.

my wife and i just started discussing living in florida. i guess no place is safe, anymore.

Yea no ones safe any more we all need to carry guns now a days.

Blacdout96 11-06-2009 03:20 PM

On a more serious note, Jim, your Avatar has awesome tata's.

Knipps 11-06-2009 03:42 PM

More serious note? You think THIS is the thread to do that? :facepalm:

Z28 Heritage 11-06-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 651690)
On a more serious note, Jim, your Avatar has awesome tata's.

Damn Jim You are Beast! She looks good

jims69camaro 11-06-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 651569)
I just find it odd, the Police now come out with a statement knowing he was goign onto the muslim sites this didn't raising any suspision? regardless if he was in the military or not, you think they would of watched him, and alerted his superior to keep an eye on him.

they were keeping an eye on him:
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At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats, including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades.

They had not confirmed Hasan is the author of the posting, and a formal investigation had not been opened before the shooting, said law enforcement officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.

Federal authorities seized Hasan's computer Friday during a search of his apartment in Killeen, Texas, said a U.S. military official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.

His anger was noted by a classmate, who said Hasan "viewed the war against terror" as a "war against Islam."

Dr. Val Finnell, a classmate of Hasan's at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, attended a master's in public health program in 2007-2008. Finnell says he got to know Hasan because the group of public health students took an environmental health class together. At the end of the class, everyone had to give a presentation. Classmates wrote on topics such as dry cleaning chemicals and mold in homes, but Finnell said Hasan chose the war against terror. Finnell described Hasan as a "vociferous opponent" of the terror war. Finnell said Hasan told classmates he was "a Muslim first and an American second."

Hasan recently was involved in a spat with another Fort Hood soldier residing in his apartment complex, apparently related to his Muslim beliefs.

The manager of the complex, John Thompson, said the other soldier, John Van de Walker, allegedly keyed Hasan's car and also removed and tore up a bumper sticker that read "Allah is Love." Thompson said Van de Walker had been in Iraq and was upset to learn that Hasan was Muslim.

A report filed with Killeen police on Aug. 16 indicates that Hasan's vehicle, a 2006 Honda Civic, had been scratched by an unknown object causing an estimated $1,000 worth of damage. The report indicates that Van de Walker, 30, was arrested on Oct. 21 and charged with criminal mischief. The matter has been referred for prosecution, according to the report.

The phone number for Van de Walker wasn't in service Friday, and Thompson, the apartment manager, said he had moved out of the complex.

In an interview with The Washington Post, Hasan's aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church, Va., said he had been harassed about being a Muslim in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and he wanted to get out of the Army.
they said that an "investigation" hadn't been launched yet, but that they were keeping his comments on the war on terror for later use, presumably against him.

jims69camaro 11-06-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 651690)
On a more serious note, Jim, your Avatar has awesome tata's.

megan fox... :leghump:

jims69camaro 11-06-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Knipps (Post 651695)
More serious note? You think THIS is the thread to do that? :facepalm:

lust overrides all. it's man's nature. it can't be helped.

Z28 Heritage 11-06-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro (Post 651706)
lust overrides all. it's man's nature. it can't be helped.

An't that the Damn truth

Knipps 11-06-2009 05:17 PM

Back on topic:
An Insider's View of the Fort Hood Tragedy


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