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PolarBear 01-29-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Slow-V6 (Post 676574)
They buy the mustang because it has the feeling of driving any other regular car on the road. It doesnt have that corvette low to the ground feeling like the f-bodies had.

:bs: My uncle had a Fox body and an SN95 and his daughter in law has a 08 (I think) and they all feel as low to the ground as an F-body. Plus the clutches are all cable style and are VERY hard to push compared to the hydraulic setups GM has been using for years. I got in the 08 to move it one day and I could not believe how much pedal effort was required to push the clutch in. Even the old Z bar setups didnt need that much.

ever heard of multiquote? :-P

NastyEllEssWon 01-29-2010 11:49 AM

mustang had a more usable rear backseat than the fbodies did too. thats appealing to a lot of people

baddest434 01-29-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LTs1ow (Post 676498)
Third gens are just ugly and slow

yep and your POS is beatiful and as fast as a rocket:wink:
get a grip

Slow-V6 01-29-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PolarBear (Post 676595)
:bs: My uncle had a Fox body and an SN95 and his daughter in law has a 08 (I think) and they all feel as low to the ground as an F-body. Plus the clutches are all cable style and are VERY hard to push compared to the hydraulic setups GM has been using for years. I got in the 08 to move it one day and I could not believe how much pedal effort was required to push the clutch in. Even the old Z bar setups didnt need that much.

ever heard of multiquote? :-P



If you put a Camaro 4th gen next to a 1999 Mustang the mustang sits Higher then the camaro! When you look at someone driving a camaro/firebird all you see is there head for the most part. When you look at someone driving a 94-04 Mustang you can see pretty much the whole upper body.. I have owned a Foxbody and a SN95 Mustang and this was one of my biggest dissapointments in them. The newer mustangs 2005 and up feel lower to the ground but the 94-04 mustangs have a regular car feel to them. The Fox's just have a Escort/Tempo feel to them.

firebirdcrazy 01-29-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 676596)
mustang had a more usable rear backseat than the fbodies did too. thats appealing to a lot of people

My mom had a 91 4 cyl mustang that I used from time to time. I dont think that back seat was any more useful then the fbody at all talking from experience. Hated getting in the back of that thing.

LTb1ow 01-29-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by baddest434 (Post 676599)
yep and your POS is beatiful and as fast as a rocket:wink:
get a grip

Oh I gots to get a grip, my car is that fast. :lol:

Slow-V6 01-29-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by firebirdcrazy (Post 676604)
My mom had a 91 4 cyl mustang that I used from time to time. I dont think that back seat was any more useful then the fbody at all talking from experience. Hated getting in the back of that thing.

Exactly. The back seat of both cars are pretty much useless. Thats why I had a Rear seat delete kit in my 96 Mustang and have no back seats in my 02 T/A..

NastyEllEssWon 01-29-2010 12:06 PM

the flat bench in the back of the mustangs are more useful if you have kids than the cathump with two buckets.

firebirdcrazy 01-29-2010 12:08 PM

That back seat is more for looks and keep insurance cost down lol.

LTb1ow 01-29-2010 12:08 PM

So if you want a slow car, you buy a mustang or a third gen? (minus old man time's mobile :moon:)

ws6 jim 01-29-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LTs1ow (Post 676498)
Hmn... a slow 305 powered turd gen... or a 350 small block powered car that looks much better.... tough choice...

Third gens are just ugly and slow. Its like Nick and his precious vert, just blind love.

I think my 305 is quick considering what it is. The way my 91 gta looks even though its not in great shape, is timeless and instantly recognizable. I enjoy driving the car when i come to terms with what its meant to be and what to expect from it. At the same time I can get behind the wheel of a modified newer better much faster ls1 car. I appreciate both for what they are, but I feel theres going to be more nostalgia for the 3rd gen cars despite the technology/engineering gap the 4th gen created over the years.

V 01-29-2010 12:20 PM

car in the commercial was a ferrari actually iirc.. im gonna google it now lol


edit: its hard to tell, maybe a lotus even...

sweetbmxrider 01-29-2010 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by baddest434 (Post 676599)
yep and your POS is beatiful and as fast as a rocket:wink:
get a grip

too much north jersey air will make you delusional. combine that with binge drinking and BAM! matt kohler.

firebirdcrazy 01-29-2010 12:27 PM

Looks like a Lamborghine Diablo. all the markings were taken off. Damn that commercial gave me goose bumps again lol

firebirdcrazy 01-29-2010 12:35 PM

Commercials for those who havent seen them in a while

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Qzxy27HYA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9Ho-uyPock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTkDMPJRiKs <<<< Hungry trans am

V 01-29-2010 12:36 PM

def not a lambo... due to tailights, amber over red do not match any models , plus the rear of a diablo is very distinct...

WildBillyT 01-29-2010 12:50 PM

That is a Lotus Esprit.

firebirdcrazy 01-29-2010 12:50 PM

98 Camaro Commercial. There was only one commercial I could find for the 98+ Camaro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWtJ7Ov2bcA

firebirdcrazy 01-29-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 676634)
That is a Lotus Esprit.

That was my next guess since it was similar design. I still see more of a Lambo for some reason

V 01-29-2010 12:57 PM

i cant find a lotus model that matches it either though, may be a one off "kit" car for the commercial...



http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5...gSS/redcar.jpg

91chevywt 01-29-2010 01:18 PM

Each generation will have its own place in the world. Each generation is almost 'time capsule' of its time period. Looks are subjective. "fast" is subjective. Theres people that love 2nd gens and wouldn't want any other F-body. Theres people that love 3rd gens, and wouldnt have it any other way. Same for almost any car, there can be a cult following out there. What the car is powered by is minor compared to how the rest of the car works.

The 4th gen will have its proper place in history. But late 2nd gens are barely respected as a collector car, let alone a 3rd or 4th gen. It'll take some time for a 4th gen to be respected in the same fashion as a 1st or early 2nd gen.

Squirrel 01-29-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow-V6 (Post 676572)
As far as saying all LT1 cars were 13 second cars is not right. I would love to see a bone stock 93 T/A with a automatic hit 13.99!

my neighbor had one that did just that... and with just an intake/exhaust he ran consistent 13.6's

WildBillyT 01-29-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirrel (Post 676684)
my neighbor had one that did just that... and with just an intake/exhaust he ran consistent 13.6's

93's also had the shorter first gear in the T56's

Squirrel 01-29-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 676686)
93's also had the shorter first gear in the T56's

but that got negated because the 93 m6 cars had 3:23's instead of 3:42s

WildBillyT 01-29-2010 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirrel (Post 676688)
but that got negated because the 93 m6 cars had 3:23's instead of 3:42s

A 2.97 and 3.23 has a better launch ratio than a 2.66 and a 3.42. Doesn't help past first gear though. Point taken.


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