4 cyl wranglers are sooo slow. My friend has one, but prefers driving his sisters corolla because he likes how "sporty and fun" it is compared to the wrangler. I once had the pleasure of trying to accelerate down an onramp onto 295 in the thing, and with the pedal to the floor it still couldn't hit 65 on the downhill ramp by the time I got to the bottom.

lol trust me man ive heard all of them in the book, i owned a civic as a dd so id be used to hearing stuff like that if i did get a wrangler

yeah man i drive a civic im sure anything would be a step up from the all mighty 1.6 liter vtec

Jeeps are a ton of fun and they hold their value. I restored an '80 CJ (Civilan Jeep) and I still miss it (sold it awhile back). Anyways, in your search, look for one w/ the bigger engine.

I just bought a 93 YJ. 4.0 5speed. I like it, highway is a little rough with the soft top but i haven't had the whole top or the windows in since i bought it. It rattles and the leaf spring ride is a little rough but i don't mind it. its a fun truck

For me there are 3 main things that steer me away from jeeps:

1. Fuel Mileage-Even the 4 cylinder 5 speed jeeps get poor gas mileage.

2. Size-There is barely enough room for 4 adults. And when you do get those 4 people inside, good luck fitting anything else

3. Price-Yes, jeeps hold their value. But it seems stupid to pay more just for the name.

In the end, you could pick up a full size bronco or blazer, have v8 power, the ability to tow much better than any jeep, and enough interior space for 5 grown adults and plenty of cargo room. Fuel mileage would be about the same as a 6 cylinder jeep as well, maybe a little worse. Plus, most of them have removable tops

For the winter time, you might want to look for the hardtop to put on. I remember losing a lot of the heat w/ the softtop. You can also find a lot of other cool accessories for Jeeps.

Yeah i already had that planned. i figured you'd lose a bunch of heat in the winter and the windows, doors, etc. wouldnt be coming off either. Plus it will get rid of that soft top noise for at least half the year.

my ex has a 05 TJ soft top, she gets about 180 on 14gallons before fillin her tank(my 1500 ram got 280 on 20 gallons)it doesnt seem to loose much heat(full doors) but damn is the top noisey on a warm day, plus the rear window needs a new zipper from the rock salt they use up here

thats not bad. what are the overall reliabilities of the motors? the 4cyl and the 4.0? i see a lot of wranglers with 150k+ miles on them. im probably going to look at one sometime this week, anything specific to look for or just the usual, rust, leaks, etc

I have the 4.2 in mine. Damn near will outlast the holocaust.

Same with the 4.0's, they'll go forever. Well over 200k if taken care of.

a girl i kno has a 93 grand cheerokee with the 4.0 and it has over 350K, burns 1 qt of oil every 2K. other then that no problems, and its never been opened up either

The 2.5s are pretty reliable, and the 4.0s will survive global nuclear warfare as long as you do semi-regular oil changes. :)

- Justin

That could be said about any vehicle...


If you're going to ask people about them ask people who have first hand experience owning them. I owned a '92 Cherokee 4.0 auto. I loved the thing, ran excellent, drove very nicely, and only problem I ever had with it was the valve cover gasket leaked. I think I had ~130k on it when I sold it...truthfully the only reason I got rid of it was for the Camaro. In retrospect I wish I had never done that. Last I heard, it had 200k on it and was still going great.

Crazyblazer87 had two. One 2wd 4.0 cherokee that I think had 160k on it, that was great until a telephone pole ran out infront of him while he was driving...and I think the other one was a 88 Cherokee 4.0 auto 4wd that had 300k miles on it. Original motor and trans. He sold it to buy his 90 GMC Jimmy he had for a few years.

As for wranglers, I know quite a few people with them and all love them. No major issues.

the 4.0 in my XJ has gotten the **** beat out of it for the past 40k miles (130 total); maybe 7 oil changes, ran 16.2, and is running 35's on it now and is still a champ

thank you for all the info guys i appreciate it

keep away form the jeep liberty & jeep commander be care i have some come to my job for problem with the belt just slipping off the water pump pulley

the jeep srt8 is so ****ing awesome but repairs be ready to bend over.

this jeep eats ball joints one year both ball joints broke lol

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yeah man i was just looking into wranglers maybe cherokees..thanks for the heads up though.

yeah i guess these things are pretty popular in the summer i wanted to check 2 out today and they had both been sold before i got there lol

They ride a little stiff, are a little slow, get so-so gas mileage, but they're reliable as all get out.

Looks like that Liberty needed to have the balljoint TSB performed! I gotta bring my wife's into the dealer this summer to get them done.

idk what it is my aunts liberty sport just tears ball joints i don't get it
at this point all 4 have been replace because they all broke the dealer keeps fixing and they keep breaking i even sit in the shop and watch them install one they do it by the book idk if the drive-train is stress some where ... could something be out of balance? i mean i don't feel safe with this thing at any speed yet alone my aunt driving it. lucky all the ball joints broke at below 30 mph

I was never really a fan of the Wranglers. If you are planning on getting a newer one, read up on them first. In the 2010 Consumer Reports vehicle ratings, they gave the Wrangler the lowest score they've ever given anything. On a scale of 1 - 100 and most cars falling in the high 50's to low 80's range, the Wrangler got a 17 lol.

LOL... i see so many brand new ones on the road everyday, consumer reports bllloooowwwwwwwsssssss

I think this is a good example of how their car rating metric fails. Another example is how they knocked the ZR1 for having bad gas mileage. Missing the point, in my book. With a Wrangler, if you care about road noise, creature comforts, fuel mileage, or cargo space you don't buy one.

You cannot categorize "enthusiast" vehicles with run of the mill Camry washing machines. Doesn't work that way.

thanks man ill look into it if its still for sale in a bit, im saving up my money i have to look into dealers now to get financing.

does anyone know any good wrangler sites that are nj / east coast based?