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Featherburner 12-13-2011 09:31 PM
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They ruined the Charger name for me when they made it a sedan and now they are doing this to the Dart. They need to stop being lazy and come up with new names, stop ruining names that used to be muscle cars. I guess they figure more people will give it a look if they hear the name, might be a good car but I just dont like reusing the names. Did I mention I hate them using old names on new cars!! P.S. I want to see one of these American compacts as an AWD Turbo already.
I'll take a new charger SRT8 over one of these any day! They ruined the name long before they made it a 4 door. If anything, the new Charger is rebuilding the name.

Slow-V6 12-13-2011 09:54 PM
I think the shelby charger in the 80's was a pretty bad ass car..

Featherburner 12-13-2011 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Slow-V6 (Post 796165)
I think the shelby charger in the 80's was a very bad car..
FTFY!

Frosty 12-13-2011 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Anti_Rice_Guy (Post 795972)
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Literally the same exact reaction I had.
...and the reaction will be even bigger when it needs to rebuilt after the warranty expires. The 8-speeds are around $6K or so.

BigAls87Z28 12-14-2011 12:09 AM
Everyone is so negative.
This should be a good car. The only real question is the powertrain and will it deliver. Ford has had issues with its DCT, as did VW when it first brought it out.
6+ gears for a small, low torque engine can do a little hunt-and-peck for gears. I can just imagine the 9spd in this thing. Realize that it is 3 more gears than a Cruze or Focus or any other car in its class?
It has FIVE more gears than a Corolla!! FIVE!

WayFast84 12-14-2011 02:46 AM
In Fords defense most of their transmissions are crap. How much do you think the extra gears add to the cost of the car? How much more likely is it for a broken trans? How much does that affect a rebuild cost? That's just some of the stuff in my head. I hope the extra 3mpg is worth it..

BonzoHansen 12-14-2011 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mc73nova (Post 796083)
When I hear Dodge Dart, I dont hink 4 doors, 4 cylinders and 40 mpg!
When I think dodge dart I think total POS with a L6/1bbl setup with incredibly bad build quality. Total junk. Al Bundy had a Dart, it was that big a joke. Let's not wax poetic about the great name Dart.

Anti_Rice_Guy 12-14-2011 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 796198)
When I think dodge dart I think total POS with a L6/1bbl setup with incredibly bad build quality. Total junk. Al Bundy had a Dart, it was that big a joke. Let's not wax poetic about the great name Dart.
:nod: Dart was an economy car that you happened to be able to throw some cool options at.

Featherburner 12-14-2011 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mc73nova (Post 796083)
When I hear Dodge Dart, I don't think 4 doors, 4 cylinders and 40 mpg!
This is exactly what I think of when someone says Dodge Dart. My cousin had one,granted, hers had a slant 6 and got nowhere near 40mpg but you get the point.

WildBillyT 12-14-2011 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 796180)
Everyone is so negative.
This should be a good car. The only real question is the powertrain and will it deliver. Ford has had issues with its DCT, as did VW when it first brought it out.
6+ gears for a small, low torque engine can do a little hunt-and-peck for gears. I can just imagine the 9spd in this thing. Realize that it is 3 more gears than a Cruze or Focus or any other car in its class?
It has FIVE more gears than a Corolla!! FIVE!
Yeah, that was my point.

I get that you can get crazy MPGs with triple overdrives or run a very low final drive with short 1-3 gears, but wow... 9? What's next, dual speed rear axles in pickups?

Anti_Rice_Guy 12-14-2011 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 796220)
Yeah, that was my point.

I get that you can get crazy MPGs with triple overdrives or run a very low final drive with short 1-3 gears, but wow... 9? What's next, dual speed rear axles in pickups?
Dual speed rear axles in big trucks is genius and does a lot. I'd rather see that than a 47 speed transmission.

Slow-V6 12-14-2011 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Featherburner (Post 796171)
FTFY!
Bad ass cars.. All of the 80's Shelby cars were very cool cars for there time. Maybe its a generation thing but for me I would much rather have a 80's Shelby charger then a old school Charger. Just like I would rather have a 4th Gen f-body then a 1st gen or a 04-06 GTO then a 60's GTO.

Slow-V6 12-14-2011 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Featherburner (Post 796210)
This is exactly what I think of when someone says Dodge Dart. My cousin had one,granted, hers had a slant 6 and got nowhere near 40mpg but you get the point.
To me that is ugly..

Featherburner 12-14-2011 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Slow-V6 (Post 796225)
Bad ass cars.. All of the 80's Shelby cars were very cool cars for there time. Maybe its a generation thing but for me I would much rather have a 80's Shelby charger then a old school Charger. Just like I would rather have a 4th Gen f-body then a 1st gen or a 04-06 GTO then a 60's GTO.
It must be a generation thing because there was nothing cool about the 80's Chargers. They were and still are complete and utter garbage!

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Originally Posted by Slow-V6 (Post 796227)
To me that is ugly..
I never said it was good looking.

BonzoHansen 12-14-2011 10:37 AM
80's Chargers = souped up k-cars!

qwikz28 12-14-2011 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 796180)
Everyone is so negative.
This should be a good car. The only real question is the powertrain and will it deliver. Ford has had issues with its DCT, as did VW when it first brought it out.
6+ gears for a small, low torque engine can do a little hunt-and-peck for gears. I can just imagine the 9spd in this thing. Realize that it is 3 more gears than a Cruze or Focus or any other car in its class?
It has FIVE more gears than a Corolla!! FIVE!
But VW really ironed it out and it is amazing from what I hear. I also have heard that much of the complaints about the Ford are that people are simply just not used to it. I wish I had a Focus to drive and check out for myself.

BigAls87Z28 12-14-2011 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by WayFast84 (Post 796183)
In Fords defense most of their transmissions are crap. How much do you think the extra gears add to the cost of the car? How much more likely is it for a broken trans? How much does that affect a rebuild cost? That's just some of the stuff in my head. I hope the extra 3mpg is worth it..
40mpg is the name of the game. If your car doesn't offer a 40mpg car or better, you better be Toyota. The Big 3 can no longer look to be behind the 8 ball when it comes to vehicle tech. Time to push forward.

NJ Torque 12-14-2011 01:27 PM
The 7 speed trans' in the Infinitis people do nothing but complain. . .And those are $11,000 , warranty price.

WayFast84 12-14-2011 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Torque (Post 796260)
The 7 speed trans' in the Infinitis people do nothing but complain. . .And those are $11,000 , warranty price.
:shock:I was mad at the price of a tick stage 3!:shock:

Frosty 12-14-2011 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Featherburner (Post 796235)
It must be a generation thing because there was nothing cool about the 80's Chargers. They were and still are complete and utter garbage!
This x10000000000000000000000000000000

There's nothing cool about them, at all.

Noodles 12-15-2011 03:40 PM
Too late to the show. The Fiesta, Focus, and Sonic are way ahead of this.

Syzygy 12-15-2011 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 796198)
When I think dodge dart I think total POS with a L6/1bbl setup with incredibly bad build quality. Total junk. Al Bundy had a Dart, it was that big a joke. Let's not wax poetic about the great name Dart.
Excuse me, but Al's car rolled 1,000,000 miles in season 8.

NastyEllEssWon 12-15-2011 07:27 PM
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looks pretty damn cool if you ask me!

BigAls87Z28 12-16-2011 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodles (Post 796482)
Too late to the show. The Fiesta, Focus, and Sonic are way ahead of this.
Dart goes against Cruze, Focus, Elantra, Civic, 3, Corolla, aaaaannd...Sentra.


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